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'The Tube' (TV program)

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Indeed. Very 'deep' episode in places but a difficult topic dealt well with in my view. It took my absolutely ages to guess the station, completely forgetting that it existed until you could see one of the roundel signs on the platform just as they carried the body away at the end.

I think 'deep' sums it up. Very much a serious episode on the whole since that was the main 'theme' of it. The warning that came before the episode was very valid too. Possibly not the sort of detail I thought they would show on TV to be honest.

Something that I noticed - when the tube worker was going onto the track to test whether the traction current had been de-energised again, I'm sure he actually touched the 4th rail as he climbed across with the testing kit (given how high it is off the floor at that point). Was I imagining things or did he actually do so to help him get across it?

On a lighter note, was good to see how the staff kept spirits up by getting everyone on the opposite platform to blow their horns/whistles etc - I guess it helps keeps tensions from running too high with people wanting to get home, some of whom have probably had a few too many :P
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(By the way, I can confirm that these staff really do exist, I saw 2 of the staff in the intro sequence working when I was in London yesterday, and one was having his photo taken at the time I walked past! :P )

I wonder if this series could end up having the same effect for the staff featured as it seems to have done for the Stobart drivers who have been on Trucks & Trailers....they seem, in some cases, to have become celebrities!
 
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when the tube worker was going onto the track to test whether the traction current had been de-energised again, I'm sure he actually touched the 4th rail as he climbed across with the testing kit (given how high it is off the floor at that point). Was I imagining things or did he actually do so to help him get across it?

It did indeed look like he touched it. ISTR it looked like he stepped on it? I would have to watch it again to be sure.
 

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It did indeed look like he touched it. ISTR it looked like he stepped on it? I would have to watch it again to be sure.

Yes. It was the neg rail, so there may be some kind of electrickery that means you can get away with it. Thick soled boots?
 

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I think there was some serious editing done. From what it showed (cctv etc) it looked like the train hit the passenger when it first entered the platform.. but it seemed that the train then fully birthed and the driver just opened the doors as normal before evacuating the train.

I don't believe that the emergency brake wouldn't have been applied as soon as the passenger was hit, or even before, meaning there is no way the train would have ended up fully birthed in the platform.
 

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Just to further Daniels post on touching in/out in quick succession,

If you touch in and out within 2 minutes they are charged the maximum fare.

Between 2 and 30 minutes they are charged the minimum fare as it assumes for example that you have gone to the platform and found out there is no service running.
After 30minutes they are counted as two separate journeys so unless they tapped out at another station they will get two uncompleted journeys resulting in two maximum fares.


Some of the recordings of the series 2 seem to be from last summer. It ashame they couldn't have mentioned that by touching in/out quickly, it is not free anymore!

To answer yorkies post, one of the way TFL are trying to combat fake tickets is to introduce back photocards for 7 day travel cards.

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Wonderful, so once again honest folk get penalised and at best have a level of nausea to get back payment for a journey not made and at worst actually pay for no service.....

As soon as this becomes public knowledge the Evening Standard will have a field day, as they have before on the subject of charges being made inappropriately on Oyster. May not exactly be a vote winner for Boris either (shame!!!).....
 

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I think they handled the serious issues quite well. I think putting a dark topic alongside a cheerful topic of the carnival helped th tone of the episode too..
 

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Yes, I think they've balanced things well to keep people interested when we all know people have short attention spa... Hey, EastEnders is starting.
 

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On a less morbid note, did anyone notice the 1938TS in the first few seconds of the programme on an adjacent road in the depot when they showed the Picc line driver wakling through his train? It was not the 4-Car preserved one as this has a maroon roof. The one in the Programme clearly had a grey roof...anyone care to confirm this and clarify what train this was? (possibly the middle coach of the preserved 3-car Cravens unit but can anyone confirm?)

Anyone know the answer?
 

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Just out of interest, for those who recognised some of the staff from the previous sky3 series, this is the ticket inspector (Denise) at around 5mins30. I knew I'd seen her somewhere before!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tD0viH7SaC8&feature=related

And in this one, is Andy Hogg, riding back to Edgware Road with a shaken up driver following the one under attempt, from around 5 minutes onwards again
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQ0jCzup5EQ

(NB: I'm pleased I've actually managed to find these, although I obviously have too much time on my hands!)
 
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It's a very different system to the Tube. The lines are subsurface, surface or elevated (running above roads seemed common), but many of the lines run 24 hours day and have four tracks to facilitate Express and Local trains, so I presume that makes engineering works a little more difficult (but less expensive overall).

It's not as well presented as the tube, but nothing beats Moscow Metro's stations for sheer magnificence and beauty, when I was about 8 years old, I went to Moscow with my family to visit a close relative who was working there, being interested in transport things, I vaguely remember the grand chandeliers and statues and thinking it looked like a museum. Records 6.5 million passengers daily now as well - a lot busier than the Tube (if you thought that was possible!). I must go back there.

In fact, I'd love to see a series aired in the UK that covered another buzzing metro system, it would be fascinating to see behind the scenes on another network.

Most New York Subway stations have 4 tracks (2 local and 2 express), so if there needs to be engineering work it is easy to close two of them and put services onto the others. Plus a lot of lines can be switched around, so at times you'll have 1 trains running local on other lines then going back to their own tracks. Shows you that with a bit of will-power it 24 hour running is possible.
 

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I watched this last night. Very good. I must say I was shocked at how many suicides/people being hit by trains incidents there were! :shock:

Good to see the staff getting involved with the crowds from Knotting Hill Carnival, really lifts the mood!
 

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The lady in the BTP control room is nice!

I wonder how many one-unders are accidents and how many are suicides? The ERU now have a blue-light capability which is good.

I might go to Warwick avenue just to meet that guy!

I have to disagree with the Pic line driver, the Pic line is sometimes closed on weekends.
 

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The lady in the BTP control room is nice!

I wonder how many one-unders are accidents and how many are suicides? The ERU now have a blue-light capability which is good.

I might go to Warwick avenue just to meet that guy!

I have to disagree with the Pic line driver, the Pic line is sometimes closed on weekends.

Yes what was with him, he was coming out with all kings of bloody ridiculous stuff. The Piccadilly is happy smiley or whatever, embarrassing !
 

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Well as no one seemed interested in either answering my question or even acknowledging it. I decided to find the answer to my question and get it from a friend of mine who is a driver trainer on the Piccadilly line. For anyone who might be interested , the red train which was adjacent the train we saw the driver walk through at the beginning of episode 3 is the 3-car Cravens Heritage trains unit which is at Northfields depot!
 

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Yes what was with him, he was coming out with all kings of bloody ridiculous stuff. The Piccadilly is happy smiley or whatever, embarrassing !

It reminded me a bit of the proposal for a 'mind the gap' anime series. Personified lines to help make understanding the underground a bit easier (somehow)
 

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Yes what was with him, he was coming out with all kings of bloody ridiculous stuff. The Piccadilly is happy smiley or whatever, embarrassing !
Indeed. We all know that the Picc is the worst LUL line *ducks*
 

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Did anyone find it weird how despite they spent the entire episode talking about a lack of capacity and showing the rebuild of TCR station yet there was absolutely no mention of Crossrail whatsoever? It was as if TfL had commanded them to not mention it or something!
 

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Dare I say some young enthusiasts who seemed to be giving the hobby something of a better name. Naturally, what they do off camera may be different but it all seemed quite good on camera :) (and they hit the nail on the head too - it's just an interest not that different to football etc, just less socially accepted :()
 

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I liked the jamacian guy at the beginning :)
 

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I am glad that their dealings with Bombardier match up with my opinion of the company!

The word 'clueless' springs to mind, although at least it seems they've got a solution to the door problem.
 

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I'm confused, these new trains aren't the same as the new trains shown the other week where you could walk from one end to the other? Are there 2 types of new train being delivered?
 

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Also what's all the talk of these old trains being automatic and drive without drivers..?!
 

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I am glad that their dealings with Bombardier match up with my opinion of the company!

The word 'clueless' springs to mind, although at least it seems they've got a solution to the door problem.

It was pretty bad, I have to admit. The conference call sounded like a complete nightmare..."well, they should be looking at it today"

I'm confused, these new trains aren't the same as the new trains shown the other week where you could walk from one end to the other? Are there 2 types of new train being delivered?

Yep. Tonight showed the Victoria Line 2009 stock (tube stock) whereas last week was the S Stock (sub-surface stock)
 

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I'm confused, these new trains aren't the same as the new trains shown the other week where you could walk from one end to the other? Are there 2 types of new train being delivered?

The ones shown previously are the 'S' stock which will eventually be rolled out across the entire sub surface system.

The trains this week are the 2009 stock which are now fully operational on the Victoria line.

Both are made by Bombardier.
 

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Ah are the tube trains the little ones and the sub surface ones the larger ones? Sorry I'm not that familiar with the Underground!
 
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