Hardly. That's just a few examples, but you have to really learn the system to be able to easily identify more examples. You can't look at a map and randomly decide to split a journey, for example.The trick that you can show off to none rail knowers has been given.
You can only use the FoIA if it directly related to government.
The worst are:Its a shame VT are so expensive!
Sadly not, although that trick did work with SET when they were run by the SRA, IIRC.ALSO is ATOC a Public company because under freedom of info 2k0 we can request things...?
Finally, not part of the report but, dont travel by train at all! You can save a fortune!
True, but many people do regular walk-up journeys, and knowing the best combo can help. So it's still useful.Note, 'walk-up', minutes before travel. Some people who start trying to calculate routes/fares etc are going to take longer to plan and purchase travel documents that those who don't.
They're not even allowed to!Rail staff generally will not help these people in the walk-up environment and suggest splitting tickets,
It would be ridiculous to ask a ticket seller to do the research and find the cheapest combo, and I fully understand why they cannot do that. However, if a customer asks for a list of prices and conditions, then they have to fulfil the request.it's time consuming for having to search for information and at the end of the day they loose money.
For walk-on? How on earth do you work that out?!! Examples please?!In my experience, and for my use, Virgin and MM offer the best value, GNER less so in comparison.
Lucky youI'm not a fan of the split ticket idea - it's time consuming to calculate and for many journeys that I make it's N/A.
It might, but it might not...Also, that bit extra that you pay by not splitting walk-up tickets might actually benefit.
An example was listed, Newcastle-York.Also, someone said about 2 open walk-up singles being less expensive than the equivalent return ticket - I would love to see where this is the case because I've never seen anything like it.
(in before "overall cheaper fares" "not gonna happen")
Yes, but not for combinations of tickets.It would be ridiculous to ask a ticket seller to do the research and find the cheapest combo, and I fully understand why they cannot do that. However, if a customer asks for a list of prices and conditions, then they have to fulfil the request.
For my use, i.e., advance purchase. I don't travel any other way long distance.For walk-on? How on earth do you work that out?!! Examples please?!
I was thinking more of economical benefits to the railway more than anything else. Also, if it's inc travelcard, why not invest in Oyster? (which is cheaper as it is)It might, but it might not...
If I want a day return to London inc travelcard, why should I pay £15 extra when I can split at Grantham and get the exact same train (0936 off York is the first I could get either way)
Yes they do. You've made that up. They have to sell whatever you ask for. They have to give you a price for any ticket you ask for. Why do you think any different ?Yes, but not for combinations of tickets.
OK.For my use, i.e., advance purchase. I don't travel any other way long distance.
Sorry but you're talking rubbish.I was thinking more of economical benefits to the railway more than anything else. Also, if it's inc travelcard, why not invest in Oyster? (which is cheaper as it is)
I can just imagine them following them onto the tube to see if they boarded a Class 86 to Ipswich..Some people used to try and avoid the SDR from Bomo to Wloo by buying a cheaper saver (which was valid at that time in the morning) to Ipswich. RPI's cottoned onto this however and even followed them to point out the error of their ways ; )
Some people used to try and avoid the SDR from Bomo to Wloo by buying a cheaper saver (which was valid at that time in the morning) to Ipswich. RPI's cottoned onto this however and even followed them to point out the error of their ways ; )
I really don't understand why so many people believe this myth that a travelcard on Oyster is cheaper than a travelcard on paper.Oyster does not give national rail services in the cap, hence the cap being 50p lower. And also, ODT costs are absorbed by about £3 into the ODT from out of London, on child it's about £1.50.
Yes. Even if I were to say, I would like to travel from Manchester to London, I think it would be cheaper to split my journey at some point, please find for me what the cheapest way of spliting the journey would be?Yes they do. You've made that up. They have to sell whatever you ask for. They have to give you a price for any ticket you ask for. Why do you think any different
Sorry but you're talking rubbish.
It's about £39 with railcard for a York-Grantham and Grantham-London all zones.
York-London is £49 and then you have to add a fiver for a travelcard on top.
How the hell is Oyster going to prevent a £15 deficit? In fact, a travelcard on Oyster is no cheaper than a travelcard on paper. And, worse, if I got Oyster I could not get it all issued at York in one transaction.
Indeed. Min fare £8 on SVRs (and I doubt many savers cost less than £8!)^^^^ except you can of course!
No, as I said before, you cannot ask them to suggest combinations. What you can do is ask them for prices/conditions for tickets that you specify. The key thing is, you have to request it.Yes. Even if I were to say, I would like to travel from Manchester to London, I think it would be cheaper to split my journey at some point, please find for me what the cheapest way of spliting the journey would be?
It's an inclusive fare, and you can obtain the fares using Avantix traveller. Use 'ZONE R1256 ZONES' (code 0035). It's not actually an 'add-on', but an example is Peterborough to London ODT £26.50 'Any Permitted', this is £3 more than a Peterborough to London CDR at £23.50 'Any Permitted', however it gets better: railcard holders only pay £1.95 more.a) What would the add-on price for a travelcard be with this
1-6b) Which zones would your travelcard be for.
Download http://www.atoc.org/retail/_downloads/NFM95/NFM95_Common_F.pdf and print page 3.I hate having to but tickets on the day...even for Saver Returns I purchase online.
Why?
Because station staff at Gloucester don't let me use my railcard at all before 1000
5p doesn't make a blind bit of difference to me so I'd pay it anyway..If the Saver cost £7.95 without discount, you obviously would not want to pay £8
The system won't let you. It assumes (incorrectly in your case) that you don't want to pay more than a non-railcard discounted ticket, so it will just issue a normal ticket.5p doesn't make a blind bit of difference to me so I'd pay it anyway..
Bloody things.The system won't let you. It assumes (incorrectly in your case) that you don't want to pay more than a non-railcard discounted ticket, so it will just issue a normal ticket.