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Ideas for the Island Line, such as what to call the new trains?

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VEP3417 said:
As for the question about station repaints/colour changes to come up to modern day, they are stuck in the late 60s period but i quite liked that :lol: but yes the new train will look a bit out of place running through stations that are basically in a "heritage state/livery"
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Will it? Do 80x and Electrostars look out of place running through Hanwell (which is done out like an olde worlde GWR station), or, er, more 80x, running through a few heritage looking stations knocking about in Yorkshire? It's just a different look and people will get used to it. Less charm, but more practical.
 
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Bletchleyite said:
Will it? Do 80x and Electrostars look out of place running through Hanwell (which is done out like an olde worlde GWR station), or, er, more 80x, running through a few heritage looking stations knocking about in Yorkshire? It's just a different look and people will get used to it. Less charm, but more practical.
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As the Island line is undergoing its biggest upgrade in years, maybe SWR is looking to integrate it further into its network in terms of presentation & appearance?

The 484s are coming with the SWR livery - they could otherwise have a traditional red livery like their precedessors - which leads me to think the IL stations may get a repaint with SWR colours.

The IL might have been treated like an afterthought in previous years as a rural & isolated line that SWT maintained it like a separate division by using a BR Southern region green & cream theme instead of SWT colours.

Going with recent trends like discouraging car use etc - the IL may be getting recognised as worthwhile for investment like possible extensions to Ventnor & Newport also relieving congestion to and from Ryde. Getting on a train from Newport to Ryde then over the Solent and commute up to Waterloo could be attractive.
 
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dorsetdesiro said:
As the Island line is undergoing its biggest upgrade in years, maybe SWR is looking to integrate it further into its network in terms of presentation & appearance?

The 484s are coming with the SWR livery - they could otherwise have a traditional red livery like their precedessors - which leads me to think the IL stations may get a repaint with SWR colours.

The IL might have been treated like an afterthought in previous years as a rural & isolated line that SWT maintained it like a separate division by using a BR Southern region green & cream theme instead of SWT colours.

Going with recent trends like discouraging car use etc - the IL may be getting recognised as worthwhile for investment like possible extensions to Ventnor & Newport also relieving congestion to and from Ryde. Getting on a train from Newport to Ryde then over the Solent and commute up to Waterloo could be attractive.
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That was my thought, the 484s could have been painted green or burgundy, likewise interior. I think the opportunity is ripe for a more clean uniform image given the level of investment and the self contained nature of the line .
 
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Going with the craze for naming new trains - how about "Vectis Ryder" for the 484?
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Definitely not. “Wight Ryder” has already been used for some years by Wightlink, and “Vectis” by the bus company, so you’d be suggesting various commercial links that just aren’t there.
 
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At a push (very large one), with Ryde Pier Head and Esplanade providing links to Portsmouth...

"Shanklin & City Line"
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Could that not be (at an even larger push) "Waterlooville and City Line"? :D
 
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Referring to Queen Victoria's ties to the island - Osborne Line?

Nah, needs something more catchier probably "Island Flyer" or something...
 
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Needs to begin with an A. I'll go Alumina. As they used to be bare aluminium
 
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Definitely not. “Wight Ryder” has already been used for some years by Wightlink, and “Vectis” by the bus company, so you’d be suggesting various commercial links that just aren’t there.
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As the previous generation Island Line stock were designated 4-VEC and 3-TIS, there's no reason not to name the new trains as Vectis units. There lots of stuff on the island that uses the Vectis name; the bus company just happens to be one of them.
 
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I am aware that most comments up thread are light-hearted. Is there anything particularly wrong with 'Island Line'? It's a well established brand.
 
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As the previous generation Island Line stock were designated 4-VEC and 3-TIS, there's no reason not to name the new trains as Vectis units. There lots of stuff on the island that uses the Vectis name; the bus company just happens to be one of them.
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Designations such as 4-VEC and 3-TIS were not really to do with normal publicity, like any other SR stock codes they were for internal use.
 
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What I would do with regard to it is fully integrate it into Southern Vectis's network including branding and ticketing (through tickets from the mainland could be via a Plusbus like scheme). That would make the best use of it.

Of course as a private company Vectis would probably not agree, but this is Speculative Ideas! :)
 
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Designations such as 4-VEC and 3-TIS were not really to do with normal publicity, like any other SR stock codes they were for internal use.
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Well yes, but being totally outside of the normal Southern designations for EMUs it was a sort of a joke that when coupled together they were VEC-TIS trains.
 
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Well yes, but being totally outside of the normal Southern designations for EMUs it was a sort of a joke that when coupled together they were VEC-TIS trains.
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Were the 483s ever given traditional SR designations in the same vein? 2-IOW maybe? Seems to be pot luck whether later units on the mainland were given them, with 442s being 5-WES, 458/0s being 4-JOP, and 450s & 444s being 4-DES & 5-DES respectively. As far as I'm aware, 455s, 456s and Networkers didn't have these designations.
 
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Considering the age of the new sets, how about calling it the "Dinosaur Line"?
Matches the earlier Cretaceous paint job
 
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randyrippley said:
Considering the age of the new sets, how about calling it the "Dinosaur Line"?
Matches the earlier Cretaceous paint job
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If the Island Line is a dinosaur, what would that make the Southern coastway lines?
 
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