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170531 looks like the first for repaint next week, going straight to Crewe ATC skipping any EMR involvement for now.
Wow that was fast - although I’m surprised 530 didn’t go straight for a repaint as with the /4s from Scotrail when they first transferred...

7 will transfer between now and may. 530 was the first. So 6 to go now for the moment
Judging from the /6 centre cars going off lease first, I wouldn’t be surprised if all the former /6s are amongst the 7 to transfer.
 
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Wow that was fast - although I’m surprised 530 didn’t go straight for a repaint as with the /4s from Scotrail when they first transferred...


Judging from the /6 centre cars going off lease first, I wouldn’t be surprised if all the former /6s are amongst the 7 to transfer.

All 23 units are already off lease and on hire from EMR to WMR. Similar a number of the EMR 156s are off lease and on hire to EMR from Northern.
 

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All 23 units are already off lease and on hire from EMR to WMR. Similar a number of the EMR 156s are off lease and on hire to EMR from Northern.
So the 156s are going to Northern then? I can imagine this will be the same for the 158s when a Liverpool to Nottingham replacement has been found?
 

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So the 156s are going to Northern then? I can imagine this will be the same for the 158s when a Liverpool to Nottingham replacement has been found?

At least some 156s are going to Northern, yes. Not heard anything about the 158s, I doubt any will leave until 2022 at the earliest.
 

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At least some 156s are going to Northern, yes. Not heard anything about the 158s, I doubt any will leave until 2022 at the earliest.
15 x EMR 156s are now leased to Northern and sub-leased back. It’s all the ex-Greater Anglia ones plus 6 others.
 

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15 x EMR 156s are now leased to Northern and sub-leased back. It’s all the ex-Greater Anglia ones plus 6 others.

I need to do some digging to find out which ones are which but the fleet strategy is current a very fluid thing so details are scarce. I get the impression from the briefings we do get that things are changing on a regular basis.
 

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15 x EMR 156s are now leased to Northern and sub-leased back. It’s all the ex-Greater Anglia ones plus 6 others.
I thought the ex-GA ones were incompatible with the other fleets due to a different PIS/public address system?
 

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I need to do some digging to find out which ones are which but the fleet strategy is current a very fluid thing so details are scarce. I get the impression from the briefings we do get that things are changing on a regular basis.
I'm told it's 156401/403/404/413-415/902/907/909/912/916-919/922 that are for Northern.

I thought the ex-GA ones were incompatible with the other fleets due to a different PIS/public address system?
Yes, but Northern will presumably refurbish them and can include PIS re-fit in the scope. EMR will want rid of them first, too.
 

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I'm told it's 156401/403/404/413-415/902/907/909/912/916-919/922 that are for Northern.


Yes, but Northern will presumably refurbish them and can include PIS re-fit in the scope. EMR will want rid of them first, too.

The C6 overhaul is apparently already planned in for this year. The old GA refit is very tired and was much less extensive than the units at EMT got 10 or so years ago. I'm surprised they've not signed up for the rest of the ex EMT Porterbrook units to be honest - they had a lot of extra work done including new doorsteps and runners. I assume there is a reason why that will become apparent at some point.
 

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The C6 overhaul is apparently already planned in for this year. The old GA refit is very tired and was much less extensive than the units at EMT got 10 or so years ago. I'm surprised they've not signed up for the rest of the ex EMT Porterbrook units to be honest - they had a lot of extra work done including new doorsteps and runners. I assume there is a reason why that will become apparent at some point.
That’s interesting, never knew that.
 

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Updated list:

Class 43 HST power cars:

43238 - LNER red, EMR branding
43251 - LNER red, EMR branding
43257 - LNER red, EMR branding
43272 - LNER red, EMR branding
43274 - LNER red, EMR branding
43295 - LNER red, EMR branding

43302 - Currently in the paint shop.
43309 - LNER red, EMR branding
43310 - LNER red, EMR branding
43320 - LNER red, EMR branding


MK3 Coach sets:
'red' sets (Ex LNER). All 6 coaches.
NL56
NL57
NL58


Class 153:
153308 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153319 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153355 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153357 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153379 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153384 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo

Class 156:
156401 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156403 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156404 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156405 - EMR outgoing livery
156406 - EMR outgoing livery

156408 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156410 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156411 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156413 - EMT regional blue (no red/orange EMT cab ends) with EMR Regional logo
156414 - EMT regional blue (no red/orange EMT cab ends) no branding
156415 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156470 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156473 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156497 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156498 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156902 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156402)
156907 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156407)
156909 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156409)
156912 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156412)
156916 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156416)
156917 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156417)
156918 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156418)
156919 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156419)
156922 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156422)


Class 158:
158770 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158773 - EMR outgoing livery
158774 - EMR outgoing livery

158777 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158780 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158783 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158785 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158788 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158799 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158806 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158810 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158812 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158813 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158846 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158847 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo - 'Lincoln Castle Explorer'
158852 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158854 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo - 'The Station Volunteer'
158856 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158857 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158858 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158862 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158863 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158864 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158865 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158866 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158889 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo

Class 170:
170416 - Full EMR Regional
170417 - Full EMR Regional - 'the key worker'
170418 - Full EMR Regional
170419 - Full EMR Regional
170420 - Full EMR Regional


170530 - WMR outgoing livery - No branding

Class 180:
180109 - Hull Trains blue, no branding
180110 - EMR outgoing livery
180111 - EMR outgoing livery
180113 - EMR outgoing livery


Class 222:
222001 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo - 'The Entrepreneur Express'
222002 - EMR outgoing livery - 'The Cutlers' Company'
222003 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo - 'Tornado'
222004 - EMR outgoing livery - 'Children's Hospital Sheffield'
222005 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222006 - EMR outgoing livery - 'The Carbon Cutter'

222007 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222008 - EMR outgoing livery - 'Derby Etches Park'
222009 - EMR outgoing livery
222010 - EMR outgoing livery
222011 - EMR outgoing livery
222012 - EMR outgoing livery
222013 - EMR outgoing livery
222014 - EMR outgoing livery

222015 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo - '175 Years of Derby's Railways 1839-2014'
222016 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222017 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222018 - EMR outgoing livery
222019 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222020 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222021 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222022 - EMR outgoing livery - 'Invest in Nottingham'
222023 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo

222101 - EMR outgoing livery
222102 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222103 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222104 - Full EMR intercity

Class 360 (All now with EMR!):
360101 - Blue with White stripe
360102 - Blue with White stripe
360103 - Blue with White stripe
360104 - Blue with White stripe
360105 - Blue with White stripe
360106 - Blue with White stripe
360107 - Blue with White stripe - Currently at Ilford
360108 - Blue with White stripe
360109 - Blue with White stripe
360110 - Blue with White stripe
360111 - Blue with White stripe
360112 - Blue with White stripe
360113 - Blue with White stripe - Currently at Ilford
360114 - Blue with White stripe
360115 - Blue with White stripe
360116 - Blue with White stripe - Currently at Ilford
360117 - Blue with White stripe
360118 - Blue with White stripe - Currently at Northampton
360119 - Blue with White stripe
360120 - Blue with White stripe
360121 - Blue with White stripe - Currently at Ilford

Class 43 HST Power Cars
43044, 300, 305, 306, 316, 319 are withdrawn but still at Neville Hill
43045, 050, 060 are at Derby RTC with Colas Rail on test trains.
43048, 052, 054, 066, 076, 089 are at Leicester (D.A.T.S). 43048, 089 are now part of the 125group.
43046, 055, 058, 059, 083 are now with LSL
43043, 047, 049, 064, 073, 081, 082, 277, 290, 299 are now at Burton West Yard.
43296, 308, 314, 318, 423, 465, 467, 468, 480, 484 are at Ely
43307, 317 are at Barrow Hill

Mk3's:
NL01 Scrapped/3 coaches to 125 group
NL06, NL07, NL10, NL12, NL52, NL53, NL54 Scrapped
NL03, NL04, NL08, NL11 stored at Gascoigne Wood (some of NL03 will go to the 125group.)
DY21, DY22, DY23 are at Ely
NL55 is withdrawn but still at Neville Hill
NL51 is stored at Barrow Hill

Class 153's
153302, 368, 374 are stored at Ely
153311, 376, 381. 383, 385 are stored at Burton West Yard
153310, 313, 318, 321, 326, 368, 372, 382 are now with TFW
 
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I’m liking the variety in EMR’s fleet at present - shame this will change over the coming years...
 

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There was a line of at least 6 153’s at Etches Park when I went past on Thursday, with 379 at one end.
Does anyone know if these are withdrawn ?
 

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There was a line of at least 6 153’s at Etches Park when I went past on Thursday, with 379 at one end.
Does anyone know if these are withdrawn ?
The only known diagrams for these are on the Barton on Humber branch which is currently suspended so there is probably no use for them at the moment.
Anyone know what is happening to 302?
It is currently being repainted and will be back out soon in its new look.
 

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The EMR 153s are believed to be going into temporary storage (I would take a wild guess at Barrow Hill) until they're required again for Barton.
 

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The EMR 153s are believed to be going into temporary storage (I would take a wild guess at Barrow Hill) until they're required again for Barton.
Given the PRM dispensation deadline and introduction of the 170s, wouldn’t 156s be used instead?
 

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Given the PRM dispensation deadline and introduction of the 170s, wouldn’t 156s be used instead?

Not until you have crews who sign both Barton and 153s, no. TPE Cleethorpes crews who currently work the services only sign 153.
 

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Will it have an internal refurbishment as well, or is that being done at a later date as with the /4s?
 

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Just paint for now, gone quiet on the internal refurbishment all I've seen is some QR code on the windows of the ex Scotrail 170s now in service that you scan to read about!
 

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Just paint for now, gone quiet on the internal refurbishment all I've seen is some QR code on the windows of the ex Scotrail 170s now in service that you scan to read about!
Cheers! Will have to check it out once non-essential travel’s permitted again.
 

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When non essential Travel is permitted again maybe then will Internal refurbishment occur.
My personal view is the internal refurbishment will start once all of the 170s have been transferred to EMR (including the Southern ones)
 

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My personal view is the internal refurbishment will start once all of the 170s have been transferred to EMR (including the Southern ones)
The Southern ones don’t even have a replacement prepared yet that would enable them to be transferred to EMR, so that could be years
 
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