Mikey C
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That's good news, as ADL were in danger of just ending up a bodybuilder
Which is working quite well according to their market dominance.That's good news, as ADL were in danger of just ending up a bodybuilder
I found myself smiling about 10.3m double-deckers being considered as "short-wheelbase", when this length was previously considered to be "long-wheelbase" in previous generations of double deckers. Different times!Short-wheelbase option launched for BYD ADL Enviro400EV24 February 2021
Alexander Dennis Limited (ADL) and BYD UK’s electric vehicle partnership is introducing a shorter version of its BYD ADL Enviro400EV double decker.
With its more compact wheelbase, the 10.3m long model will increase manoeuvrability when navigating congested roads and tight corners.
The partnership launched the double deck BYD ADL Enviro400EV in 2019, enabling the electrification of busy bus services. Over 450 of the standard 10.8m version have since been sold to operators in London and other UK cities.
Indeed it is - trying to think if stuff like VRs and Olympians were 9.5m?Short-wheelbase option launched for BYD ADL Enviro400EV
Alexander Dennis Limited (ADL) and BYD UK’s electric vehicle partnership is introducing a shorter version of its BYD ADL Enviro400EV double decker.www.transportengineer.org.uk
I found myself smiling about 10.3m double-deckers being considered as "short-wheelbase", when this length was previously considered to be "long-wheelbase" in previous generations of double deckers. Different times!
Not only length. The extra 5cm width of modern double decks is also quite noticeable.Indeed it is - trying to think if stuff like VRs and Olympians were 9.5m?
Quite a good point.Short-wheelbase option launched for BYD ADL Enviro400EV
Alexander Dennis Limited (ADL) and BYD UK’s electric vehicle partnership is introducing a shorter version of its BYD ADL Enviro400EV double decker.www.transportengineer.org.uk
I found myself smiling about 10.3m double-deckers being considered as "short-wheelbase", when this length was previously considered to be "long-wheelbase" in previous generations of double deckers. Different times!
Wrightbus to use Voith Electrical Drive System in ZE buses
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February 23, 2021
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Wrightbus will exclusively utilise the Voith Electrical Drive System (VEDS) in the second-generation of its battery-electric and hydrogen fuel cell-electric buses, the two parties have announced.
The first major Wrightbus order to be fitted with VEDS will be 80 battery-electric StreetDeck double-deckers for Northern Irish operator Translink. They are to commence delivery from August. Those vehicles form part of a wider £66m contract with Wrightbus that will see 100 zero-emission buses delivered to the state-owned undertaking.
The Voith product is based on a powerful water-cooled permanent magnet motor with a high-efficiency inverter. That positively impacts energy consumption while permitting a compact design. VEDS is a modular system that can deliver a maximum power of 340kW, making it what Voith claims is one of the most powerful traction systems on the market for buses.
Wrightbus says it analysed all electrical drive systems available in Europe before concluding that VEDS delivers the best operating efficiency. That is a key consideration, particularly for double-deckers, adds Wrightbus Head of Advanced Technology Brian Maybin. He notes that the envelope and restricted weight capacity of a double-decker constrains the manufacturer’s ability to add more batteries to increase its range.
VEDS supports battery systems from a range of manufacturers. The collaboration between Wrightbus and Voith represents a further step in a well-established relationship that previously has been built around the use of Voith’s DIWA transmissions in Wrightbus’s diesel range.
That's a fair point however the "etc" in the title accounts for the smaller names, i only put "ADL, Optare & Wright" as examples and because they're the three largest. I don't see the need and there wouldn't be the space to list every UK based bus manufacture in the title.I know that it might be a niche company just now, but might we have to add Arrival to the UK based manufacturers, they are supplying a vehicle to First this year for trials, anyone know much about this new builder apart from the fact that they are making vans for Royal Mail and Amazon for delivery this year too. 36 seater bus which is fully low floor, might not make a dent on the big guns this year or maybe next, but might become a player after that.
It was more metaphorical than adding it to the title, it was meant more that with First making a bold step to no longer buy diesel from the end of next year and putting some faith in hydrogen with the Aberdeen Wrightbus trials, Arrival is the first purely electric bus, built from the ground up in this country, if it is successful and to be honest if it is anything like their mock ups and their vans which are not bad looking aestetically wise, they may end up being a major player and also causing the "big three" some big competition.That's a fair point however the "etc" in the title accounts for the smaller names, i only put "ADL, Optare & Wright" as examples and because they're the three largest. I don't see the need and there wouldn't be the space to list every UK based bus manufacture in the title.
That's an interesting response to what have clearly been challenges with the longer BYD wheelbase (that short rear overhang is the giveaway).
Optare won their MetroDecker order from London General because the BYD/ADL 10.8m version failed a route test on the 200, as I understand it (which the MetroDecker passed, as it has a shorter wheelbase).
I do wonder how they will meet the new space and capacity requirements at only 10.3m.
That's an interesting response to what have clearly been challenges with the longer BYD wheelbase (that short rear overhang is the giveaway).
Optare won their MetroDecker order from London General because the BYD/ADL 10.8m version failed a route test on the 200, as I understand it (which the MetroDecker passed, as it has a shorter wheelbase).
I've always found London's obsession with buying the shortest yet tallest buses possible strange.Most (All?) diesel E400s in London are of the shorter 10.3m ish length, that seems to be a popular length in London, able to "go anywhere"
Nah, it's the rest of the country which has it wrong!I've always found London's obsession with buying the shortest yet tallest buses possible strange.
Some of the Ex-London Presidents were bordering on being taller than they were in length .
ADL Trident Plaxton President - First Aberdeen
32975 X975 HLT......Market Street,Aberdeen.www.flickr.com
Would appear to be those recently advertised by Chartwell Bus Sales which were a cancelled Arriva orderI see that Ensign has taken delivery of a number of StreetDecks from Wrightbus - is this a new order to Wright's or are Ensign picking up vehicles from a cancelled order?
I see that Ensign has taken delivery of a number of StreetDecks from Wrightbus - is this a new order to Wright's or are Ensign picking up vehicles from a cancelled order?
These are a group of seven vehicles refused by Arriva for the 110 Wakefield to Leeds service, due to their poor built quality.Would appear to be those recently advertised by Chartwell Bus Sales which were a cancelled Arriva order
I think it was likely a mix of the problems you mention rather than anything particularly specific.Interesting to note just how poor the quality became under Wrights in their later days. Seems odd that they should have allowed it to happen - simply poor management, poor quality control, cutting corners, cutting staff ???
These are a group of seven vehicles refused by Arriva for the 110 Wakefield to Leeds service, due to their poor built quality.
These will enter service in early March and will replace older vehicles on routes that enter the newly expanded London ULEZ zone
And yet they still managed to sell more buses than Optare. Bizarre!Interesting to note just how poor the quality became under Wrights in their later days. Seems odd that they should have allowed it to happen - simply poor management, poor quality control, cutting corners, cutting staff ???
TfL specifies that double decks must be full height, ie 14' 6" to maximise passenger headroom. That other operators don't consider this to be an issue is their choice.I've always found London's obsession with buying the shortest yet tallest buses possible strange.
Some of the Ex-London Presidents were bordering on being taller than they were in length .
ADL Trident Plaxton President - First Aberdeen
32975 X975 HLT......Market Street,Aberdeen.www.flickr.com
Interesting to note just how poor the quality became under Wrights in their later days. Seems odd that they should have allowed it to happen - simply poor management, poor quality control, cutting corners, cutting staff ???
Usually everybody else has to put up with some tat after London have finished with it, it's unusual for London to have to put up with something that somebody else got rid of!These are a group of seven vehicles refused by Arriva for the 110 Wakefield to Leeds service, due to their poor built quality.
These will enter service in early March and will replace older vehicles on routes that enter the newly expanded London ULEZ zone