Much obliged.I have the following as still outstanding: 42029, 42033, 42035, 42054, 42056, 42077, 42078, 42096, 42144, 42185, 42213 and 42351.
Very happy to be corrected if I am wrong!
Much obliged.I have the following as still outstanding: 42029, 42033, 42035, 42054, 42056, 42077, 42078, 42096, 42144, 42185, 42213 and 42351.
Very happy to be corrected if I am wrong!
I have 42029/213/351 as having been released from Wabtec on 25 February. The other nine I agree are still outstanding.I have the following as still outstanding: 42029, 42033, 42035, 42054, 42056, 42077, 42078, 42096, 42144, 42185, 42213 and 42351.
Very happy to be corrected if I am wrong!
ThanksI have 42029/213/351 as having been released from Wabtec on 25 February. The other nine I agree are still outstanding.
I have 42029/213/351 as having been released from Wabtec on 25 February. The other nine I agree are still outstanding.
Aren't there already Fife Circle services?
Thanks, I knew there was one couldn't recall if there were 2.Currently only 1 runs as a hst the 1719 Cardenden. From cadder being operational 2k21 and 2k18 should revert to hst in the morning with the 1719 being the evening working
For the additional coaches, is there a list stating which coach is to be added to which set?42029 definitely in destined rake at Haymarket on Friday
According to Modern Railways - reliability is stable - around 6,100 miles per technical incident - compared to 7,500 for GWR's fleet. Compare this to EMR's figure of 11,500 miles - and it shows there is work to do. Though EMR have the benefit of donkeys years experience at Neville Hill depot to call on.There were quite a lot of reliability problems when the Hsts were introduced by Scotrail, had they settled down pre-covid?
What won’t have helped ScotRail was Angels choice of dropping the GEC Traction Motored power cars on them, while GW retained the more reliable Brush ones. IIRC I believe Landore used to work their magic with the GEC versions, eventually getting them to be more reliable. Im not sure if some staff from Craigentinny may have transferred over to Haymarket, but I think the majority of the EC fleet were Brush than GEC - @43096 will likely be able to confirm?According to Modern Railways - reliability is stable - around 6,100 miles per technical incident - compared to 7,500 for GWR's fleet. Compare this to EMR's figure of 11,500 miles - and it shows there is work to do. Though EMR have the benefit of donkeys years experience at Neville Hill depot to call on.
I guess Scotrail engineers are still getting used to the foibles of these new sets. It isn't clear how reliable the new sliding door systems are either or whether these are accountable for the lower reliability than EMR's non sliding door fleet.
Surely there were enough Brush ones to go round? Can the Brush ones or bogies be retrofitted?What won’t have helped ScotRail was Angels choice of dropping the GEC Traction Motored power cars on them, while GW retained the more reliable Brush ones. IIRC I believe Landore used to work their magic with the GEC versions, eventually getting them to be more reliable. Im not sure if some staff from Craigentinny may have transferred over to Haymarket, but I think the majority of the EC fleet were Brush than GEC - @43096 will likely be able to confirm?
East Coast have only ever had Brush traction motor power cars, the GEC cars were always Western based.What won’t have helped ScotRail was Angels choice of dropping the GEC Traction Motored power cars on them, while GW retained the more reliable Brush ones. IIRC I believe Landore used to work their magic with the GEC versions, eventually getting them to be more reliable. Im not sure if some staff from Craigentinny may have transferred over to Haymarket, but I think the majority of the EC fleet were Brush than GEC - @43096 will likely be able to confirm?
Oh dear. That's not great! These seem to be elementary items? IIRC , LNER (ex VTEC) fleet were one of the most reliable in the country at one time posting better figures then the Azumas are currently. The door systems are new - granted. But the rest?There have been several notable complete failures on the HML of HSTs over the past few months. They also continue to suffer daily issues such as doors, speedo, compressor and engines not starting.
Some of the original sets have been sent back to Wabtec for remedial warranty work on door systems, among other things. I understand that these door issues have been a fairly substantial of late.
It will be very interesting to see the reliability figures once the whole fleet are in service.
Some of these issues sound very familiar, are the same causes or are more developing leading to issues with certain items? I'm thinking compressor and speedo issues mainly as these have come up before way back at the beginning.There have been several notable complete failures on the HML of HSTs over the past few months. They also continue to suffer daily issues such as doors, speedo, compressor and engines not starting.
Some of the original sets have been sent back to Wabtec for remedial warranty work on door systems, among other things. I understand that these door issues have been a fairly substantial of late.
It will be very interesting to see the reliability figures once the whole fleet are in service.
I must be lucky. I've not had any problems with my HSTs at all. None.Some of these issues sound very familiar, are the same causes or are more developing leading to issues with certain items? I'm thinking compressor and speedo issues mainly as these have come up before way back at the beginning.
Thank You @ainsworth74 for the tidy-up.For the avoidance of doubt this thread is concerned with the introduction of HSTs to Scotrail. We have discussed, to death, on other threads whether they were a good idea or not and it is not for that discussion to be rehashed on this thread. Anyone interested in that should review the existing threads we have on the topic such as these.
I've not experienced one, but this thread seems to be fairly well endowed with such anecdotes. The speedo issues in particular I remember from the beginning, that was supposed to be related to the ATP equipment but this was supposed to be removed to improve the reliability, so surely not the same issue again thereI must be lucky. I've not had any problems with my HSTs at all. None.
I've not experienced one, but this thread seems to be fairly well endowed with such anecdotes. The speedo issues in particular I remember from the beginning, that was supposed to be related to the ATP equipment but this was supposed to be removed to improve the reliability, so surely not the same issue again there
Right enough, I'd forgotten about that. In which case the question remains what's now causing speedo issuesIndeed, ScotRail have removed all the GW Speedometers with the ATP equipment in and fitted standard speedometers in their place. They were auctioning one or two off last year for their chosen charity.
Set | Livery | A (TGFB) | B (TSD) | C (TS) | D (TSL) | E (TSL) | Remarks |
HA01 | SR7 | 40601 | 42004 | 42561 | 42046 | - | #1 to Scotland 17/08/18 (as HA26) |
HA02 | SR7 | 40602 | 42292 | 42562 | 42045 | - | #2 to Scotland 11/01/19 (as HA25). To Doncaster 09/02/21. |
HA03 | SR7 | 40603 | 42021 | 42557 | 42143 | - | #14 to Scotland 12/03/20 (as HA13) |
HA04 | SR7 | 40604 | 42183 | 42559 | 42343 | - | #3 to Scotland 21/03/19 (as HA24) |
HA05 | SR7 | 40605 | 42345 | 42034 | 42184 | - | #4 to Scotland 04/05/19 (as HA23) |
HA06 | SR7 | 40606 | 42206 | 42581 | 42208 | - | #24 to Scotland. To Slateford for temporary storage (13/11/20) |
HA07 | SR7 | 40607 | - | 42574 | - | - | #18 to Scotland 22/06/20. Stored Slateford (31/03/21) |
HA08 | SR7 | 40608 | 42055* | 42571 | 42019 | - | #5 to Scotland 27/05/19 (as HA22) To Doncaster 17/02/21. |
HA09 | SR7 | 40609 | 42253 | 42107 | 42257 | - | #12 to Scotland 11/02/20 (as HA15) |
HA10 | SR7 | 40610 | 42360 | 42551 | 42252 | - | #10 to Scotland 21/12/19 (as HA17) |
HA11 | SR7 | 40611 | 42267 | 42325 | 42301 | - | #19 to Scotland 06/08/20 |
HA12 | SR7 | 40612 | 42275* | 42576 | 42276 | - | #6 to Scotland 03/07/19 (as HA21) |
HA13 | SR7 | 40613 | 42279 | 42280 | 42296 | - | #20 to Scotland 17/08/20 |
HA14 | SR7 | 40614 | 42012 | 42245 | 42013 | - | #23 to Scotland, 30/10/20 |
HA15 | SR7 | 40615 | 42030 | 42579 | 42010 | - | #22 to Scotland, 19/10/20 |
HA16 | SR7 | 40616 | 42291 | 42577 | 42075 | - | #7 to Scotland 09/08/19 (as HA20) |
HA17 | SR7 | 40617 | 42295 | 42558 | 42250 | - | #21 to Scotland, 29/09/20 |
HA18 | SR7 | 40618 | 42297 | 42555 | 42014 | - | #13 to Scotland 21/02/20 (as HA14) |
HA19 | SR7 | 40619 | 42255 | 42568 | 42256 | 42029 $ | #26 to Scotland 25/02/21. |
HA20 | SR7 | 40620 | 42200 | 42575 | 42129 | - | #25 to Scotland. To Slateford for temporary storage (28/11/20) |
HA21 | SR7 | 40621 | 42299 | 42300 | 42277 | - | #16 to Scotland 05/05/20 |
HA22 | SR7 | 40622 | 42007 | 42564 | 42145 | - | #15 to Scotland 08/04/20 (as HA12). Withdrawn. |
HA23 | SR7 | 40623 | 42268 | 42567 | 42269 | - | #17 to Scotland 29/05/20 |
HA24 | SR7 | 40624 | 42265 | 42553 | 42293 | - | #9 to Scotland 10/12/19 (as HA18) |
HA25 | SR7 | 40625 | 42259 | 42578 | 42333 | - | #8 to Scotland 14/11/19 (as HA19) |
HA26 | SR7 | 40626 | 42281 | 42072 | 42350 | - |
Thanks very much!
Set Livery A (TGFB) B (TSD) C (TS) D (TSL) E (TSL) Remarks HA01 SR7 40601 42004 42561 42046 - #1 to Scotland 17/08/18 (as HA26) HA02 SR7 40602 42292 42562 42045 - #2 to Scotland 11/01/19 (as HA25). To Doncaster 09/02/21. HA03 SR7 40603 42021 42557 42143 - #14 to Scotland 12/03/20 (as HA13) HA04 SR7 40604 42183 42559 42343 - #3 to Scotland 21/03/19 (as HA24) HA05 SR7 40605 42345 42034 42184 - #4 to Scotland 04/05/19 (as HA23) HA06 SR7 40606 42206 42581 42208 - #24 to Scotland. To Slateford for temporary storage (13/11/20) HA07 SR7 40607 - 42574 - - #18 to Scotland 22/06/20. Stored Slateford (31/03/21) HA08 SR7 40608 42055* 42571 42019 - #5 to Scotland 27/05/19 (as HA22) To Doncaster 17/02/21. HA09 SR7 40609 42253 42107 42257 - #12 to Scotland 11/02/20 (as HA15) HA10 SR7 40610 42360 42551 42252 - #10 to Scotland 21/12/19 (as HA17) HA11 SR7 40611 42267 42325 42301 - #19 to Scotland 06/08/20 HA12 SR7 40612 42275* 42576 42276 - #6 to Scotland 03/07/19 (as HA21) HA13 SR7 40613 42279 42280 42296 - #20 to Scotland 17/08/20 HA14 SR7 40614 42012 42245 42013 - #23 to Scotland, 30/10/20 HA15 SR7 40615 42030 42579 42010 - #22 to Scotland, 19/10/20 HA16 SR7 40616 42291 42577 42075 - #7 to Scotland 09/08/19 (as HA20) HA17 SR7 40617 42295 42558 42250 - #21 to Scotland, 29/09/20 HA18 SR7 40618 42297 42555 42014 - #13 to Scotland 21/02/20 (as HA14) HA19 SR7 40619 42255 42568 42256 42029 $ #26 to Scotland 25/02/21. HA20 SR7 40620 42200 42575 42129 - #25 to Scotland. To Slateford for temporary storage (28/11/20) HA21 SR7 40621 42299 42300 42277 - #16 to Scotland 05/05/20 HA22 SR7 40622 42007 42564 42145 - #15 to Scotland 08/04/20 (as HA12). Withdrawn. HA23 SR7 40623 42268 42567 42269 - #17 to Scotland 29/05/20 HA24 SR7 40624 42265 42553 42293 - #9 to Scotland 10/12/19 (as HA18) HA25 SR7 40625 42259 42578 42333 - #8 to Scotland 14/11/19 (as HA19) HA26 SR7 40626 42281 42072 42350 -
Courtesy of the scot-rail website