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Podcast: Signals to Danger - Railway disasters in the UK

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Was pretty good for me!
Happy to hear it. I'm not sure what it was about it, sometimes I get a really good feel about them and others less so! Reassuring to hear that it's in my head!

Hi @tpfx89, another top notch episode. A few things learned for me listening to this episode. I now know why a tank engine is named a tank engine, and the issue of the water sluicing around during movement of the loco is an issue also for HGVs that carry liquids. The ghost story at the end was also an intriguing addition. Thanks again Dan and like others have said above, I wish I was in a position to do the Patreon thing, but maybe one day.
Baffles are also a pretty big deal in fire appliances, I wonder how many times people had to read the name Dennis with their head cocked to figure that out!

And really don't worry about the Patreon thing, the number of people who sign up will never influence the podcast, I'm certainly still making it for the joy of it.
 
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I love stories like that, I'm sure that there's plenty up and down the country, having done my fair share of night shifts at dark, empty stations with adjacent tunnel mouths I can certainly appreciate how a chill can start to creep up your spine.

I do wonder whether theres a spin off in there somewhere telling those stories...

I'm sure there is enough material to create a spin off covering hauntings and ghost stories associated with railway infrastructure. Just south of Welwyn North station is Digswell viaduct which again is alleged to have its own ghosts, and in the past was a hot spot for suicides, not so much railway related, moreso due to the height, people would jump off it. A dear friend, now retired who was a paramedic received an award for talking one young girl down from the edge of the parapet back in the 80's, but sadly there have been several occasions where sadly the emergency services have been too late.

On a brighter note, I'm looking forward to the lifting of COVID restrictions and being able to get back out and video trains again without feeling guilty about breaking the rules :)
 

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I'm sure there is enough material to create a spin off covering hauntings and ghost stories associated with railway infrastructure. Just south of Welwyn North station is Digswell viaduct which again is alleged to have its own ghosts, and in the past was a hot spot for suicides, not so much railway related, moreso due to the height, people would jump off it. A dear friend, now retired who was a paramedic received an award for talking one young girl down from the edge of the parapet back in the 80's, but sadly there have been several occasions where sadly the emergency services have been too late.

On a brighter note, I'm looking forward to the lifting of COVID restrictions and being able to get back out and video trains again without feeling guilty about breaking the rules :)
Yes, I think there's loads of ghost stories from around the network that could be covered in a podcast and I don't think each episode would need to be very long, probably 30 minutes at the most for most stories. I've got a book in my "to read" pile called 'Ticket to the gallows and other villainous tales from the tracks' by Barry Herbert. I can't remember if it was recommended elsewhere on this forum or I spotted it in one of the shops during a visit to the NYMR.
And on your second paragraph, I too am looking forward to the restrictions being lifted and being able to travel further afield. My railmiles for this year are way down at 20 miles as I've only used the train to go into town to go to Boots pharmacy for our prescriptions. My local line is the Middlesbrough to Whitby branchline and I struggle to justify trips going over the boundary into North Yorkshire even though there are plenty of walks from most of the stations where I would barely meet anyone and we could very easily social distance.
 

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I'll genuinely consider it if I get a bit of bandwidth out of work or home life in the near future.
I don't think I'd do it as a spinoff per say, I think it would be a standalone endeavour. Nice short episodes, couple of tales an episode, all listener submitted, that sort of thing.
 

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I'll genuinely consider it if I get a bit of bandwidth out of work or home life in the near future.
I don't think I'd do it as a spinoff per say, I think it would be a standalone endeavour. Nice short episodes, couple of tales an episode, all listener submitted, that sort of thing.
Excellent.... I agree, 20min episodes would be about right
 

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Another one for the ECML in Hertfordshire

Great Northern railway in the late nineteenth century, the ghost which allegedly stepped onto the footplate of a train travelling at full speed through Hatfield station. According to the driver, “It was the saddest face I ever come across. The eyes seemed to look you through and through; and when on top of that I saw that he was all in black, I never was so afraid in my life."
The fireman appeared to have seen nothing, but the “strange-comer” indicated that the driver should stop the train, and he felt compelled to obey. The train came to a halt just outside Hitchin; and it was only later the driver discovered that, even though the signals had been set fair, there were two trucks on the line up ahead. Without the warning, the train would have crashed into them."
 

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The temptation to look into that is growing!

In the meantime, episode 17 is available now, covering the worst peacetime disaster on the UK rail network, Harrow and Wealdstone.
 

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The temptation to look into that is growing!

In the meantime, episode 17 is available now, covering the worst peacetime disaster on the UK rail network, Harrow and Wealdstone.
Just finished listening to the lastest episode. A long one that didn't seem to take as long as 1hr 10mins! Another excellent episode, @tpfx89 is really chugging along nicely with the production of the episodes now. All I can say is that being in foggy conditions can be qute disorienting at times so perhaps that would account somewhat for the driver struggling with sighting signals but as said, unfortunately we will never be able to hear their account.
 

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The idea of a Jubilee and a Princess Royal mounting and crossing a platform at speed is probably one of the more horrifying part of the crash, which is impressive given everything else going on. Another very good episode (although you did move WWII back by 25 years... :lol:;)) and didn't feel like it was longer than an hour.
 

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I've already been called out on Twitter using a blackadder gif for that! Bit embarrassing haha

Excellent episode Dan. Good to see you tackle such a big one too.
My uncle was playing in what must have been my great grandparents garden a mile or so down the line that morning and he remembers the sound of the crash even though he was very young. I think my great grandmother went up there to help out.
I’ll give him a ring over the weekend and ask him about it.
 

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I can imagine it was a horrific sound.
And I was a little worried about doing it justice but I think it worked out alright.
 

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Excellent episode Dan. Good to see you tackle such a big one too.
My uncle was playing in what must have been my great grandparents garden a mile or so down the line that morning and he remembers the sound of the crash even though he was very young. I think my great grandmother went up there to help out.
I’ll give him a ring over the weekend and ask him about it.
Can't even begin to imagine what it must've sounded like. Closest approximation in my mind at least would either be a massive bomb going off or a plane crash. Given the scale of the destruction and the forces involved, it's frankly mind-boggling that at least one of the locomotives in the thick of it (Coronation No. 46242 City of Glasgow at the head of the Perth sleeper) would go on to be completely rebuilt. Of course, that's totally and utterly frivolous in light of the horrific death toll and number of injured. Visuallizing Windward Isles & Princess Anne mounting & careening across the platform with their train piling up behind them is.... jeeeez; would be enough to put anyone off rail travel for life.

Will be starting this series (not before time!) with the Harrow episode and slowly work my way back. I expect this hour and a bit to be over in no time at all. :)

E: well, that was a ingrossing hour and a bit to say the least. Am listening on Spotify and have followed the playlist. Not to worry, Dan: you did this one justice.
 
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Just before anyone asks why the next episode is late being published, Dan posted a video on YouTube a few days ago.

 

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I can imagine it was a horrific sound.
And I was a little worried about doing it justice but I think it worked out alright.

Nice little YouTube update Dan. Especially liking the mean and moody turning away from the camera shot at the end. ;)

I think for me when you’re getting free content that someone’s trying to fit in around their work you really can’t complain if there’s a delay of a week or so.
Podcasts are like that sometimes and it’s generally just a nice moment when the people who do the ones you enjoy drop a new one...

All the best.
 

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Nice little YouTube update Dan. Especially liking the mean and moody turning away from the camera shot at the end. ;)

I think for me when you’re getting free content that someone’s trying to fit in around their work you really can’t complain if there’s a delay of a week or so.
Podcasts are like that sometimes and it’s generally just a nice moment when the people who do the ones you enjoy drop a new one...

All the best.
Thanks for this, it's good to hear. I enjoy making it, and it's a shame to have a little gap as I felt like I'd nicely dropped into a rhythm, but you're right, it certainly isn't my day job and sometimes hobby time can be stolen away!
 

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Hopefully whatever is going on in Dan's personal life doesn't mean that Signals to Danger has come to an end.... Just checked Spotify and the last issue was Harrow and Wealdstone uploaded 28th March. I'm having withdraw symptoms not getting my fortnightly fix :)

Dan, on a serious note, I hope you are OK and hopefully things sort themselves out so normal service can resume ;)
 

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Hi Malc,

All back to normal, just needed a quick fortnight for breathing space haha! If you check now you'll find a brand new episode waiting for your listening pleasure, covering the Tangmere SPAD of 2015!
 

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Hi Malc,

All back to normal, just needed a quick fortnight for breathing space haha! If you check now you'll find a brand new episode waiting for your listening pleasure, covering the Tangmere SPAD of 2015!

Excellent, listening to it now on Spotify...

Interesting and enlightening.....Enjoyable podcast. Not sure if it is a Spotify thing or if you changed your settings when recording, but your voice sounded very compressed at times - as if you had done this over zoom or a mobile phone, but other than that, another wonderful podcast....Thank you
 
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Excellent, listening to it now on Spotify...

Interesting and enlightening.....Enjoyable podcast. Not sure if it is a Spotify thing or if you changed your settings when recording, but your voice sounded very compressed at times - as if you had done this over zoom or a mobile phone, but other than that, another wonderful podcast....Thank you
Possibly just a little out of practice!
 

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Hi Malc,

All back to normal, just needed a quick fortnight for breathing space haha! If you check now you'll find a brand new episode waiting for your listening pleasure, covering the Tangmere SPAD of 2015!
Just had a listen. Another very enjoyable episode, particularly as it's very local to me and I vividly recall walking in the messroom on the following shift to hear about it. For quite a while afterwards I could very easily imagine the potential outcome every time I visited the junction. If you had any reservations about making a podcast from a near miss rather than a full-blown accident you'll hear no complaints from me.

My only, very minor, niggle is that I've never heard Wootton Bassett pronounced "Woo-ton" before, I've always said it "Wut-ton"!
 

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Just had a listen. Another very enjoyable episode, particularly as it's very local to me and I vividly recall walking in the messroom on the following shift to hear about it. For quite a while afterwards I could very easily imagine the potential outcome every time I visited the junction. If you had any reservations about making a podcast from a near miss rather than a full-blown accident you'll hear no complaints from me.

My only, very minor, niggle is that I've never heard Wootton Bassett pronounced "Woo-ton" before, I've always said it "Wut-ton"!
Well thanks for that!

And I really did have reservations but I think it turned out OK. And that's a misleading double O!
 

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That was a very interesting episode Dan. Although it was quite recent it’s easy to forget how close to disaster it actually was.
Looking forward to the next one.
 

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That was a very interesting episode Dan. Although it was quite recent it’s easy to forget how close to disaster it actually was.
Looking forward to the next one.
And it's here!

Episode 19 covers the derailment at Conington South in 1967, often overshadowed by the Hitchin disaster it cost 5 lives. The cause is a little more intriguing than most of my episodes however so I hope you enjoy!
 

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