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Trivia: Stations that lost their suffix

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Edinburgh Waverley is still in use as the station's official name and is referred to as such by most and still on station signage.

With the exception of a short number of electronic destination boards and on train passenger information systems on non ScotRail and LNER rolling stock, Waverley isn't going anywhere.
I think BR tried to drop the Waverley in the 70s resulting in a public outcry.

Tyndrum Upper lost a suffix and gained a prefix as Upper Tyndrum
The reason behind that was the advent of Radio Electronic Token Block and the concern that a corrupted cab display could result in confusion between Tyndrum Lower and Tyndrum Upper. Similarly, Mallaig Junction signal box at Fort William was renamed to Fort William Junction.
 

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The reason behind that was the advent of Radio Electronic Token Block and the concern that a corrupted cab display could result in confusion between Tyndrum Lower and Tyndrum Upper. Similarly, Mallaig Junction signal box at Fort William was renamed to Fort William Junction.
Well I suppose not all readers would be aware but I didn't see the need to explain why, although I understood there was also an element of ensuring clear verbal communication between signaller and driver to avoid said confusion.
 

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I think Lancaster is just that these days not Lancaster Castle.
Someones fitted some maroon 1960s style tube lights which have "Lancaster Castle" on them on platform 3, though the main nameboards just say Lancaster

Wellington was at one point Wellington Telford West and has the distinction of both gaining and losing its suffix within 10 years
what happens when Somerset Wellington reopens?
 

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Buckley (Junction)
 
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Cark seems to gain and lose "and Cartmel" at various points. I believe the current nameboards just say Cark but I might be wrong. The "and Cartmel" probably doesn't make a lot of sense, as if you are actually intending to get to Cartmel (which tourists might be, it's a lovely little touristy village to visit, plus the famous-ish races) and aren't planning on walking, Grange is a better bet as there is an infrequent bus service and there are a few local taxis who might or might not be hanging round the station.

The village (according to its signage) is called "Cark-in-Cartmel", to add to the mix-up.
 

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Cark seems to gain and lose "and Cartmel" at various points. I believe the current nameboards just say Cark but I might be wrong. The "and Cartmel" probably doesn't make a lot of sense, as if you are actually intending to get to Cartmel and aren't planning on walking, Grange is a better bet as there is an infrequent bus service and are a few local taxis.

The village (according to its signage) is called "Cark-in-Cartmel", to add to the mix-up.
Isnt the station in Flookburgh?
 

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Rotherham:-
Masbrough as opened, Masborough and Rotherham, Rotherham (Masborough), Rotherham, Rotherham Masborough.
See disused stations website!!!!
 

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Earlswood Lakes - which without its suffix gets called Earlswood (West Midlands) to distinguish it from the Earlswood in Surrey, thereby managing to increase in length while losing its suffix? One I'm not sure about, did Builth Road High Level ever carry the suffix, the Low Level seems to have but not sure about High Level.

Other ones I can find are Hereford Barr's Court, Hartlebury Junction, Llandrindod Wells, Llangammarch Wells, Llanwrtyd Wells, Neath General and Abergavenny Monmouth Road
 

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There were attempts to refer to Deansgate as Deansgate GMEX, but they all went nowhere. However, some guards and signage still refer to it as such. Ironically, Deansgate lost its prefix rather than its suffix. On another note, how many stations have lost both a prefix and suffix?
 

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The village (according to its signage) is called "Cark-in-Cartmel", to add to the mix-up.
To make it even more confusing, Northern's onboard announcements call the station 'Cark-in-Cartmel'. The station's nameboards only reference Cark. Bizarre. But also may not qualify for this thread.

Edinburgh Waverley is still in use as the station's official name and is referred to as such by most and still on station signage.

With the exception of a short number of electronic destination boards and on train passenger information systems on non ScotRail and LNER rolling stock, Waverley isn't going anywhere.
Everywhere outside of Scotland on the railway, it is just referred to as 'Edinburgh' except for LNER. TransPennine Express, Avanti West Coast and CrossCountry always refer to it as just Edinburgh. It is also only referenced as Edinburgh on tickets, on National Rail Enquiries and in the timetable data.

Lincoln Central is now just Lincoln
This one is confusing because I would just call it Lincoln too, and the confusion with St Marks station has long since ceased to be an issue.

But LNER love calling it Lincoln Central.
 
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Ham Street & Orlestone - Now just Ham Street
Bexhill Central - Now just Bexhill
Tunbridge Wells Central - Now just Tunbridge Wells
Three Oaks and Guestling Halt - Now just Three Oaks
Doleham Halt - Now just Doleham
Sandling Junction - Now just Sandling

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Is James Cook still "University Hospital" at the end?
As @Mcr Warrior has alluded to in his post, both are in use. Real Time Trains uses "James Cook" & National Rail Enquiries uses the full and correct "James Cook University Hospital". It has been about 3 months since I last used the train home but generally the automated announcements would use the full title and guards would use the shorter version, which is understandable given they could be saying quite a few stations if they are going to Whitby. Interestingly, when the station was first built, the station signs on the platform said "James Cook University Hospital", but got changed after the official opening.
 

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Norwich used to be Norwich Thorpe when there was also Norwich Victoria and Norwich City.

Brundall Gardens Halt was at one time just Brundall Gardens, not sure if it's regained it's Halt or not.

We used to have Yarmouth Vauxhall, which, I understand, is now Great Yarmouth so lost it's suffix and gained a prefix!

Lowestoft used to be Lowestoft Central.

Haddiscoe used to be Haddiscoe Low Level, when there was also a High Level.

North Walsham used to be North Walsham Main.

Cromer used to be Cromer Beach.
 

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Wasnt it Alfreton and Mansfield Parkway for a while?
When the station opened (or re-opened), it was Alfreton and Mansfield Parkway and was served by St. Pancras to Sheffield inter-city trains via Nottingham. With the demise of these trains and the opening of Mansfield station on the Robin Hood line, Alfreton and Mansfield Parkway was downgraded to just Alfreton, served by regional trains.
 
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