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Merseyrail Class 777 introduction updates

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I don't know about the operational status, but there's definitely new feed gear between Port Sunlight and Bebington, and IIRC at Bromborough and Hooton too.
 

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There is a photo on Instagram, taken on Sunday 27th December by a local enthusiast, showing up to six Class 777s stored in the yard at Stadler’s Siedlce factory awaiting transfer to the UK. I could be wrong but looks to me like 777015 is leading the consist.
 

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Does anyone know what the carriage lengths of these are? To me they look a bit shorter than the 23 and 24 metre bodies which most new orders are getting.
 

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Does anyone know what the carriage lengths of these are? To me they look a bit shorter than the 23 and 24 metre bodies which most new orders are getting.
Don't know the exact measurements but they are shorter, a rough guess is 17m end cars and 15m middle ones, we know that the total length is about 64m.
 

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Does anyone know what the carriage lengths of these are? To me they look a bit shorter than the 23 and 24 metre bodies which most new orders are getting.

Yes, much shorter than 23/4m bodies - a 23m body would struggle on Merseyrail to begin with, let alone an articulated 23m one! The total train length is a shade under 65m, so an average 16m/car. I would hazard at about 15m for the middle cars with the outer cars being 17.5 with a consistent bogie spacing and the extra length on the end vehicles being mostly the driving cabs
 

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Yes, much shorter than 23/4m bodies - a 23m body would struggle on Merseyrail to begin with, let alone an articulated 23m one! The total train length is a shade under 65m, so an average 16m/car. I would hazard at about 15m for the middle cars with the outer cars being 17.5 with a consistent bogie spacing and the extra length on the end vehicles being mostly the driving cabs

The "standard" regional FLIRT vehicles with 8 bays (each of which can contain a double door or a window) are 16m, which means a bay is about 2m (a bit below, as the windows don't go all the way to the end), so count the windows/doors to get an idea.

17m+15.5ish m+15.5 ish m+17m would give you the nearly 65m length, so it's about that.
 

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Having been sufficiently bored, I've taken the drawing from Stadler's website, stuck it in paint and started measuring pixels. Going by that you have (approx)

Driving vehicle: 17.5-17.7 m
Intermediate vehicle: 13.8-14.0 m
Gangway: 0.5m
 

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Having been sufficiently bored, I've taken the drawing from Stadler's website, stuck it in paint and started measuring pixels. Going by that you have (approx)

Driving vehicle: 17.5-17.7 m
Intermediate vehicle: 13.8-14.0 m
Gangway: 0.5m
I feel you mate...
 

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Some have been in the UK for so long now, longer than many if not all of the 720s I think? We must be getting closer to service entry surely?
 

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Some of them need fault free mileage accumulation before acceptance into the fleet then staff training, Covid has delayed it as well as dispute with staff union over staffing.
 

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There is a 6X76 path in tonight for 777001+777003 being taken to kirkdale depot, 66789+66791 are top and tailing it
 

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There have been 5T01 headcodes on the network for the last two nights. The one last night sounded like an EMU, but I was a distance away and unable to confirm.
 

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There have been 5T01 headcodes on the network for the last two nights. The one last night sounded like an EMU, but I was a distance away and unable to confirm.
There were two 5T01 diagrams out on the Southport line last night. Both passed each other at Blundellsands & Crosby around 02:00 - 02:30.
 

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There were two 5T01 diagrams out on the Southport line last night. Both passed each other at Blundellsands & Crosby around 02:00 - 02:30.

Funnily enough I was watching this last night, it seemed like one 5T01 diagrams until it hit (?)Blundellsands. One remained static while another carried on to Bootle before reversing and passing the first. I was thinking it was an error in the reporting on OpenTrainTimes
 

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I wonder how are they performing now, any issues arising, problems etc

Be time to scrap them by the time they carry fare-paying pax

Then again some of TPE's fleet is suffering from the same "neglect".
 

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Funnily enough I was watching this last night, it seemed like one 5T01 diagrams until it hit (?)Blundellsands. One remained static while another carried on to Bootle before reversing and passing the first. I was thinking it was an error in the reporting on OpenTrainTimes
Both 5T01’s were moving when I checked during that time, with one going from Seaforth & Litherland towards Bank Hall and the other from Hightown to Formby. Perhaps they split at Hall Road? Who knows.

Be time to scrap them by the time they carry fare-paying pax

Then again some of TPE's fleet is suffering from the same "neglect".
Without trying to go off topic, I can assure you that none of TPE’s fleet is being ‘neglected’.
 

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Seem to be a few units stored in Warrington BQ sidings, 004, 006 that I thought were already on Merseyrail metals. From other posts 005 and 007 are also there.
 
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