Gotta confess 326 and 768 are new variants of 319s for me. If anyone can fill me in with unit & carriage numbers, and where they might be found, that'd be really handy, thanks
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Class 326 and Class 768 for Rail Operations Group 'Orion'
Just seen on Facebook pics of 57312 hauling a converted Class 319 in the ROG Onion livery. I was expecting this to be a Class 769/5, but it seems they have decided to reclassify these as Class 768 now. Working seems to be 1212 Eastleigh Arlington to Wembley H.S., running quite delayed...
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I like it...Back in the real world, I was looking at Roger Ford's latest 'New Train TIN Watch' this morning and there is actually a fleet even less reliable than TfW's class 769s and that is the Crossrail units (I think it was the full-length 9-car units rather than the reduced length 7-car sets).
Which 387s are you referring to? Whilst not having inspected every unit recently, every unit was delivered with a pan and shoe gear and there is no reason for them to be removed. Could you be thinking of 377s instead?
py_megapixel
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Yes sorry, looks like I typed the wrong thing! I was thinking of 377s.
Thanks superalbs - that one had passed me by completely!
sftfan1909
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Have any of the other /4s besides 445 made it into service yet? I've not noticed any
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Yes, only one to not yet carry passengers is 426.
Anonymous10
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are the 769s proving more reliable?
anthony263
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This last week or so the 769s have behaved themselves.
Had a trip on 769008 today from Ystrad Mynach and it didn't seem to sluggish accelerating pretty much how I remember them on the dc network.
I think some drivers being gentler on them than others. 769002 is still inside the shed at canton depot being fixed
Anonymous10
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makes me wonder if my mum took one today from Caerphilly i do want to catch one soon to see what they are like
fixed for what do we know?
Mordac
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Does anyone have the current diagrams, please?
PHILIPE
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The nearest you will get is Post #1601. They are flexible and change all the time in so much as you only usually find 3/4 out
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Mordac
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Thanks anyway, appreciate it's not always possible to get them 100%
PHILIPE
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Yes, they are. 4 out last Saturday I saw on social media
Is there a facebook page with their workings everyday then? I still need one for Rhymney only had them on the bargoeds so far
PHILIPE
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Thanks. Might give it a go on Saturday and see if I get lucky...
Thanks
PHILIPE
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2D13 1307 Penarth to Bargoed today spent the time from 1407 until 1733 at Llanbradach and put the Rhymney Valley line above Caerphilly on stop due to the total failure of 769452 (Surprise ??). Actual fault not known. In the end, Thunderbird 37418 was scrambled from Rhymney to haul it to Rhymney at 5 mph.
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And to think TfW has no choice but to try to persevere with these trains for at least another 18 months..........
I hope that Porterbrook aren't expecting rent for them. There were only two out today before the failure. There's been a failure every day this week.And to think TfW has no choice but to try to persevere with these trains for at least another 18 months..........
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Once TfW have accepted each 769 into service, they've been paying leasing charges on them. I think TfW might have even had to start paying leasing charges once they accepted the 769s to have them out for crew training.
If we lived in a BR-era simply structured railway, where DMUs could be moved around freely, there's no doubt the 769s would've been gone by now, with something else brought in instead, like some more 153s from the glut that are being retired at the moment. But we don't. And the 153s being retired by TOCs in England are not PRM compliant. So the 769s will have to limp on until the Stadler Flirts start to arrive.
Time will tell. I'd be inclined to bin them and split the remaining four cars to two and run everything with 150s. The 769s can't even keep to 150 schedules. The current schedules are slacker with, at least, one minute dwells everywhere. A round trip from Penarth to Bargoed used to be two hours. Now it's two and a half hours.
Anonymous10
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i could tolerate dwell time its reliability im concerned for
That's fair enough but if a round trip takes longer then you need more units (and crew) to provide the same service frequency.
Anonymous10
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true but i do come from the customer point of view of id rather a train every 30 mins than no train for 4 hours
fgwrich
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It's rescue by 37418 was certainly somewhat of a surprise, not least because someone had to take an angle grinder out onto 418s coupling hook to fit the rescue adapter. Oops.
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