Stagecoach bus staff to strike over pay dispute - BBC News
The company says it is still open to talks with the union.
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Stagecoach industrial action across the UK
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iantherev
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South Wales have also voted in favour of industrial action.
cnjb8
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I think it’s just Mansfield going on strike in the East Midlands but I’m not sure
pitdiver
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Yes they certainly are. All the mothers in our village are up in arms. They are asking how do they get their children to school in the next village.
GrimsbyPacer
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Last time the papers said East Midlands were going on strike, the local bus drivers laughed it off in the Grimsby area. Don't trust the papers.
Aictos
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Don't blame the drivers, if their terms and conditions are poor eg long hours, low wages that they want to improve them.
No wonder bus drivers are leaving the industry when they can have better hours and a better hourly rate as a HGV driver with none of the aggro that comes from driving buses.
Do hope it's resolved tho
No wonder bus drivers are leaving the industry when they can have better hours and a better hourly rate as a HGV driver with none of the aggro that comes from driving buses.
Do hope it's resolved tho
WY Bus Spotter
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Grass is not always greener though. Particularly from what I've been listening to on youtube, with HGV drivers giving their views on the current situation.
Yes the pay might be better but you've got a lot to put up with; dirty and unsafe layby's, long hours including tramping (sleeping overnight in the truck, not very pleasant), rubbish food at service stations, often responsible for loading and unloading your trailer, and even if someone else loads it; you're still responsible for it's safety, being treat like dirt by management, distribution staff and other road users, DVLA on your tail all the time. Etc....
M803UYA
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Some of those things are on offer in the bus and coach industry, as well. Especially management.....
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Preston will be entirely on strike, Lancaster will not be.
The disruption from this will be huge and other operators need to be ready to step up with the increased load.
The disruption from this will be huge and other operators need to be ready to step up with the increased load.
How easy is that? Don't you need to give notice of a new working?
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Aren't a lot of these issues also found in the bus industry?
A family member of mine drove service buses and coaches to the continent for decades. He's now moved to one of the big supermarkets as a home delivery driver and reckons he isn't going back.
He reckons: Hours are better, no split shifts or nights away, pay is slightly better, benefits much better, management better and more flexible.
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I have no idea but imagine some action will need to be taken - at the very least I wonder if larger buses could be substituted in, particularly on routes where the route is partially shared by Stagecoach
TheGrandWazoo
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There is a tendency to immediately think that LGV driver jobs are homogenized with a common set of characteristics. The reality is that there is a wealth of variety. Yes, you have tramping (i.e. cab sleeping etc) but if you look at the supermarket sector, even that is quite varied. Most vehicles are loaded at the distribution centre for store deliveries. Then you have the delivery point themselves - it may be parking onto a dock door at a store and the driver has relatively little to do whereas, for convenience stores, drivers will have the joys of pushing pallets or roll cages into the shops themselves. Other movements are trunking movements between distribution centres, or between pallet/parcel hubs and that's really quite straight forward.
For tankers, some are preloaded by loading staff, some not, and for the discharge, it's often a case of manhandling hoses onto delivery inlets and then pumping or compressing the liquid/powder or gas off. For tankers such as fuel and milk tankers, the vehicles are often double-shifted so an AM and PM shift so you will see daycabs on those vehicles (farm collection milk tankers work under domestic rules not EU) and drivers are back home each day though it may be permanent nights or rotating shifts. Other tankers, such as food ingredients, may indeed have to night out with an element of tramping.
That's before you get onto the raft of specialist stuff like flat-beds, Hi-abs, home delivery, MOL (mechanical offloading e.g. moffats).
Overall, it's generally better money in freight but not as settled, and with longer days. It really is horses for courses. And good/bad management is a factor in every industry; passenger vs freight is no different.
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They might be able to add the odd relief journey on top of a regular scheduled service - but I doubt if many operators have sufficient spare drivers, or buses, to do much.
It’d generally be coach/school bus operators who could be drafted in to provide a service, rather than the local main competitor, assuming there is a competitor in many areas (I know in Preston there clearly is, but there wouldn’t be in Lancaster)
There will also generally be drivers who aren’t in the union who can man a skeleton service
There will also generally be drivers who aren’t in the union who can man a skeleton service
Kirkby Lonsdale Coach hire are active in Lancaster on stage carriage. No idea how much slack they have.
The depots heading out on strike are:
Stagecoach East Midlands - Mansfield and Worksop
Stagecoach South West - Barnstaple, Exeter (and out-stations), Matford, Newton Abbot and Paignton/Torquay
Stagecoach Yorkshire - Chesterfield
Source: RMT Press Release
Stagecoach East Midlands - Mansfield and Worksop
Stagecoach South West - Barnstaple, Exeter (and out-stations), Matford, Newton Abbot and Paignton/Torquay
Stagecoach Yorkshire - Chesterfield
Source: RMT Press Release
RMT confirms strikes on Stagecoach buses
BUS UNION RMT confirmed today that it is serving notice for strike action on Stagecoach buses in the South West, East Midlands and Derbyshire/Yorkshire as part of the national fight for pay justice for bus workers.
www.rmt.org.uk
Furryanimal
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These are the strike dates announced in South Wales.
(as published in Wales Online)From 2am on October 19 2021 and continuing each day up to October 24 2021. Action will end at 1.59am
- From 2am on October 25 2021 and continuing each day up to October 26 2021. Action will end at 1.59am
- From 2am on October 29 2021 and continuing each day up to October 31 2021. Action will end at 1.59am
- From 2am on November 1 2021 and continuing each day up to November 7 2021. Action will end at 1.59am
- From 2am on November 8 2021 and continuing each day up to November 10 2021. Action will end at 1.59am
- From 2am on November 12 2021 and continuing each day up to November 13 2021. Action will end at 1.59am
As will the railway.
I wonder whether during Stagecoach Lancashire's strikes whether any other operators will step in and operate limited services on any of the services that won't be running?
I know this could be controversial but it would keep some sort of service running.
I know this could be controversial but it would keep some sort of service running.
Murray J
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3 of the 5 days of strike action planned in Lancashire has been cancelled by the looks of things.
Furryanimal
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Stagecoach have announced what to expect if the South Wales strikes go ahead.
Interestingly not all South Wales depots are involved in this action.
Blackwood areas
Cwmbran, Pontypool and Blaenavon areas
Brynmawr, Ebbw Vale and Abertillery areas
Interestingly not all South Wales depots are involved in this action.
Blackwood areas
- Services disrupted: 1A, 5, 9, 12, 14, 21, 26, 52, X15 and school services
- A limited service will be running on Service 151. During strike days only there will be a special single fare for all journeys on Service 151: Adult £1.00 and Child £0.50
- Evening journeys on Service 50 will not run
- Daytime journeys on Service 56 will not run but evening journeys will continue to run
Cwmbran, Pontypool and Blaenavon areas
- Services disrupted: 1, 2, 5, 6, 7, 9, 10, 12, 15, 16, 17, 21, 23, X3
- A limited service will be running on Service X24. During strike days only there will be a special single fare for all journeys on Service X24: Adult £1.50 and Child £1.00
- We will try to run as many school contracts across Torfaen as possible
Brynmawr, Ebbw Vale and Abertillery areas
- Services disrupted: 1A, 3, 52, 56, E3, X15, fflecsi Blaenau Gwent and school services
- Service X4 will run between Abergavenny and Cardiff. Journeys between Brynmawr and Merthyr Tydfil will not run
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Good. Notwithstanding the low pay and disparity between depots, the contempt with which the South Wales MD has treated and spoken about staff is foul.
I hope they get what they deserve - if companies such as Adventure Travel can pay £10.75 and Anslow at £10 then Stagecoach can definitely pay all their depots over £10/h.
I hope they get what they deserve - if companies such as Adventure Travel can pay £10.75 and Anslow at £10 then Stagecoach can definitely pay all their depots over £10/h.
Bletchleyite
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You can (if you've got a vehicle and staff) duplicate an existing registered journey if you just need more capacity.
AndyHA
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Oh well when I am on holiday in Torquay next week . It will be money in the Taxi Driver’s pockets then !!
Scotrail314209
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Seen on another thread that Stagecoach are striking in Glasgow.
Does this mean that it might affect the West Scotland services too?
Does this mean that it might affect the West Scotland services too?
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The whole of West of Scotland have voted for strike action
Scotrail314209
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At the same time as the trains?
That means if theres no trains, I can't get to college as my alternate is the bus. And that means my Mum can't get to work as a carer because the buses are striking.
I've amended the thread title again as action has now apparently spread north of the border.
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