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Wales: Current Covid rules illogical

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I don't think illogical covid rules are exclusive to Wales - you could look elsewhere just in the UK to see further examples, as well as plenty of other countries around the globe.
 
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At my concert in St. Davids Hall on Tuesday masks were required except when sat down.
There was a queuing system for the bar with dedicated entry and exit lanes but at least the beer was cheaper than normal!
It was as if restrictions had never been lifted.
 

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At my concert in St. Davids Hall on Tuesday masks were required except when sat down.
There was a queuing system for the bar with dedicated entry and exit lanes but at least the beer was cheaper than normal!
It was as if restrictions had never been lifted.

Why are we in Scotland and you in Wales putting up with this nonsense when England has been largely liberated ?
 

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Apparently, Covid Passes are required at venues in Wales which serve alcohol, stay open after midnight and provide music for dancing.
Why are we in Scotland and you in Wales putting up with this nonsense when England has been largely liberated ?
Devolution.
 

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It'd be interesting to hear views on why people think that, despite tending in general to have harsher restrictions than England, Wales and Scotland seem to have tended to fare slightly worse all-in-all
I think it has already been stated upthread, but is that this is purely oneupmanship on behalf of the Welsh Government?
Cannot comment for Scotland.
 

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I think it has already been stated upthread, but is that this is purely oneupmanship on behalf of the Welsh Government?
Cannot comment for Scotland.

I meant in terms of their Covid statistics generally being a bit worse than England. Completely agree its oneupmanship - I'm sure both of them, Scotland in particular, would have loved to construct a "we could have eliminated Covid here were it not for England" argument. Sturgeon has gone rather quiet on that line recently.
 

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Same with minimum Alcohol price,they make the rules because they can.But if they cant make any rules
no need for them to exist!
 

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Same with minimum Alcohol price,they make the rules because they can.But if they cant make any rules
no need for them to exist!
Another good point, which also applies to Scotland.Englang you have never had it better!
I meant in terms of their Covid statistics generally being a bit worse than England. Completely agree its oneupmanship - I'm sure both of them, Scotland in particular, would have loved to construct a "we could have eliminated Covid here were it not for England" argument. Sturgeon has gone rather quiet on that line recently.
Sorry,cannot be bothered with stats, although I appreciate what you are getting at.
 

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Rather amused at getting on a Holyhead to Crewe service at Chester this morning with nearly the whole train masked but everyone getting on the train at Chester unmasked!
 

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Rather amused at getting on a Holyhead to Crewe service at Chester this morning with nearly the whole train masked but everyone getting on the train at Chester unmasked!
If you're on a Paddington-Swansea train you may well find BTP boarding at Newport to check passengers are masked up.
 

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If you're on a Paddington-Swansea train you may well find BTP boarding at Newport to check passengers are masked up.
Until they say they're exempt.....

The whole thing is pointless now. Even the conductor on the train came round checking tickets without a mask.
 

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Until they say they're exempt.....

The whole thing is pointless now. Even the conductor on the train came round checking tickets without a mask.
I was in Tesco Newport and there was a member of staff asking you to wear masks,but loads were saying they were exempt which was not the case a few weeks ago.
 

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Crowds at sporting events supposedly have to reach a 10,000 threshold before vaccine passports are needed but the Dragons And Cardiff rugby have made showing them a condition of entry.
Despite their crowds never reaching 10,000.
I don’t watch regional rugby but allowing organisations to impose their own rules is confusing the situation.
Hope those coming to events from outside Wales are fully aware of what is needed.
The Welsh Rugby Union are issuing ticket holders for the internationals with dedicated arrival times because they apparently intend to check everyone’s vaccine status.

Why are we in Scotland and you in Wales putting up with this nonsense when England has been largely liberated ?
Good question....I have taken to not wearing a mask on the bus or train( no one has said anything) and vaccine passports are a complete waste of time as having one doesn’t mean you definitely do not have Covid,but the real problem to me is that despite the Welsh Government announcing rules they allow individual venues and organisations to impose their own.
But the only way to get rid of these rules is through non-compliance.But in some instances this means you won’t get to do what you want to do.And I’m not missing the concerts I paid for over two years ago!
 
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And potentially losing custom from those of us who have never been happy with masks - especially given the inconclusive proof they are effective anyway. In reality I have always perceived them as a psychological crutch for the worried well to get that part of the population out and about again.

I am not against people wearing masks if they want to - it should always have been about free choice and people making their own decisions based on what is correct for themselves and their families.

Personally I find them obnoxious, make breathing difficult, are am environmental nuisance and worse still make you look like a wally! :D




John
I agree 100%
 

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Apparently the same sports ground in Swansea has different vaccine rules depending on whether football or rugby is being played.
 

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Hope those coming to events from outside Wales are fully aware of what is needed.
I hope the people who would have attended tell them where to stick it.

The Welsh Rugby Union are issuing ticket holders for the internationals with dedicated arrival times because they apparently intend to check everyone’s vaccine status.
I just don't see the point.

But the only way to get rid of these rules is through non-compliance.
True.

But the only way to get rid of these rules is through non-compliance.But in some instances this means you won’t get to do what you want to do.And I’m not missing the concerts I paid for over two years ago!
Surely you would be entitled to a refund?
 

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Surely you would be entitled to a refund?
That assumes two major things. One, and most important, that missing an event booked two years prior is something that a refund can satisfy - I’ve had things booked where the money back for not going would miss the point entirely.

Two, that a refund would be available rather than treating non attendance as a no show - I’d not be comfortable relying on normal interpretations of consumer rights in response to a change of terms and conditions if the promoter could argue a requirement to abide by government conditions.
 

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If you're on a Paddington-Swansea train you may well find BTP boarding at Newport to check passengers are masked up.


And in the background the Monty Python theme playing. It's getting that surreal now.
 

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And in the background the Monty Python theme playing. It's getting that surreal now.
I caught a Paddington train from Cardiff to Newport the other day. The guard announced the requirement to wear a mask unless exempt . I presume she made another announcement after passing through the Severn Tunnel into England to say passengers could take them off!
 

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Covid passes: Ministers consider widening use in Wales https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-59028147
Welsh ministers are set to consider whether to extend the use of Covid passes for a wider range of venues.
The health minister said the government would be "thinking about" the change because they are "hugely" concerned about the high levels of Covid-19.
The move is being considered after compulsory NHS Covid passes were introduced for people to legally attend big events or nightclubs in Wales.
Plaid Cymru wants rules tightened. The Tories are against more restrictions.
Creep creep……….
 
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