I still think it should’ve been arranged to happen either in conjunction with the repaints or before EMR pushed them into service - doesn’t really bode well for passengers who have returned to rail after almost two years to find their Intercity service replaced with a sub-standard commuter one…
The 319s run around on West Coast services every day in 12 car formation with only one Guard.
Bare in mind though it’s been that way since the NSE days, albeit with 321s…
Indeed, it is likely that at least one or other units may be away for a little bit longer.
When 319s first arrived, there was no agreement for 12 car working. Up until May 2019, max of 8 car working permitted. In much the same way as some posters here are quick to argue that agreements at individual TOCs aren’t precedent for other TOCs, neither are agreements within TOCs.
Yes, but the guards working on the 319s in 12 coach formations won’t make the argument that it’s unsafe like the RMT are trying to do against EMR given that it was standard practice on the WCML stoppers until the 350 introduction.
Is that the 810s or the 360s? I seem to remember that the first refurbished 360 would appear in January or a similar time.
360s.
At the rate the repaints of them are going, I feel as though Q3 next year is a bit optimistic…
One of the next ones, the 07.58 (from Wellingborough) has also had all of its calls removed and will be direct to London St Pancras. Certainly not ideal for Bedford or Luton customers as the equivalent Thameslink services will also carry the EMR passengers and will fill up quickly as they approach London!
The amount of times the 27/57 southbound from Wellingborough is delayed by the late running Nottingham. 7 minutes the other day we waited ( if the connect had been allowed to run it'd almost be at Bedford), often delayed 3/4 minutes due to this, the amount of time this initial repaint is taking is crazy.
Going on the slow lines adds about 9 minutes to the journey time between Wellingborough and Bedford as the speed limit is much lower through Sharnbook tunnel. Far better to wait an extra couple of minutes at Wellingborough then cross to the Up Fast and quickly back up to 110mph.
Not worse, but still pretty bad - then again OOC was being demolished and the 360/2s were being replaced by the 345s, so Heathrow slacked in maintenance of them.
Last I checked the 360/1s had MTINs of about 18,000 vs 4,000 for the 360/2s. Perhaps they improved at the very end of their tenure?
This morning the Corby service arriving St Pancras at 0654 was also a 4-car.
I am not disagreeing with precedent somewhere does not set agreement elsewhere.
For the half hourly frequency, I think it requires 12 units to be serviceable from a fleet of 21. 6 service patterns formed of 2 x 4-car units each.
Another reason was due to a 75mph restriction in 12 coach formation due to the mixture of brecknell wills/stone faiveley pantographs used in the fleet - LNR have since fitted the former to theirs to resolve this.
Ummm ...... , (1) 319s have end of unit doors for PRECISELY for evacuation, you simply move from one unit to another to evacuate single ended (and I as a passenger have done that in an emergency you step over the coupler (2) no Thameslink core station or north of core station had platforms of more than 8car then and SDO was not around then (3) the MML OLE could not take 3EMU operation with the Faively pans all the first 60 units (319/0 as built) without a speed limit (60 mph AIUI)
319s were in use for a really very long time after twelve car operation started in 2012. I think it was at least five years.
