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    Ex LNER (and Grand Central) Mark 4 sets for TfW

    Suspect its a train that will be busier on the coast at certain times of year and it'll be also be losing passengers by not having time to stop anywhere like Rhyl in between. But I think the bit south of Chester (especially Cardiff to Shrewsbury) will be the main footfall given its use to...
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    5x Class 153 conversion to bike and baggage vans for Scotrail

    Budget Royal Scotsman on a sprinter then? Better off trying the real thing or failing that hire an SRPS MK1 set. Not sure how these units have got space to do much more than what they do for the current passengers.
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    TfW Mk4 Diagrams?

    Weekends are always the hardest to crew these sets (given the numbers of staff who don't sign them and the demand for staff to take days off or not work rest days at weekends), so it makes sense they don't usually get used except a few times in the summer when the swap move from Holyhead to...
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    TPE Liverpool - Cleethorpes Timetable 2022

    With 769 units being less robust than was hoped, so far, and the problem of short formed trains on some Northern routes still existing the paths will gladly be given back to TPE for an extra through Liverpool service to replace the Airport link and get shut of the fast Airport to Liverpool. If...
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    TfW restoring most of its pre-March 2020 TT from 13/9

    Presumably a significant number of people who wanted and were able to take a vaccine, have partaken now so even with the case rates rising the Welsh government will weigh that up against the new level of risk (compared with last year pre vaccines) and try to balance the revised risks against...
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    Crewe - Warrington Bank Quay/Wigan/Preston

    Recall there being periods of me sometimes using the early morning commuter services between Crewe and Liverpool that served Acton Bridge up until 2004 then more occasionally after that (less so the evening peak stuff though) and the station's existence was generally more than justifiable for...
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    Seemingly poor reliability of WCR 47's/57's compared to other fleets?

    The generator cars I've come across can all look after at least 12 adjacent air cons. Can't recall their indexes though. And capability may vary between individual vehicles. I'm sure I heard at least an odd one still used was once on the jumbo Scotrail sleepers in the early to mid 90s with 37s...
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    Seemingly poor reliability of WCR 47's/57's compared to other fleets?

    I don't know re: the specs for them although you could try rolling stock websites. A few of them also suffer reliability issues too, although the Riviera ex Royal Train mk2 was largely better than the 67s even though it required spanner attention regularly. Think its had a lot of attention in...
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    Seemingly poor reliability of WCR 47's/57's compared to other fleets?

    Off the top of my head it's probably between 6 and 8 that work for the mainline but that's split between multiple companies with Riviera having 3 of whatever is left. LSL and WCRC have at least 1 each that work.
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    Seemingly poor reliability of WCR 47's/57's compared to other fleets?

    They are "advertised" in advance more on charters a bit more than 47s. Most charters using 47s are ones with no advertised traction so it's guess work or in the case of WCRC jobs either them or 57s. Statesman are generally the safest to book in advance for 47s now. Although they are at best...
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    Seemingly poor reliability of WCR 47's/57's compared to other fleets?

    Quite a few 37s were already reactivated in the past and they are popular with Network Rail via Colas (presently) for the track/infrastructure monitoring work with lower running costs than a type 4 and those trains being short formations. Very few fitted with train heat supply (just 37/4s of...
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    Crewe - Warrington Bank Quay/Wigan/Preston

    On the topic of London links, as recently as the late 90s I recall an autumn Liverpool to Euston on Sundays at least one year which was dragged by a diesel to Crewe with stops at Warrington then Hartford but the Crewe stop not being for passenger use. Next official stop was Milton Keynes. All...
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    Seemingly poor reliability of WCR 47's/57's compared to other fleets?

    In your comments about the DRS 47s, that's exactly what they did do. The accountants tightened their belts and their then MD who had not long come into power (who I saw at a funeral in 2019) decided they were to be dispensed of as the lesser used assets of a under utilised fleet. Most of the...
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    Seemingly poor reliability of WCR 47's/57's compared to other fleets?

    ROG's leased 57s are all currently in active condition barring any that might be stopped for repairs or maintenance briefly. So unless anything big goes bang on one we can assume DRS may want new homes for them after the lease. In fact, I believe they have a 5th one due in the fleet from DRS...
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    Seemingly poor reliability of WCR 47's/57's compared to other fleets?

    Just a guess RE the 57/0s really as I lack a crystal ball sadly and am not party to whether any confidential discussions regarding their future are ongoing. From what I can see DRS never really got much of a return off them compared with most of the older fleet. Only the DRS 47s were sometimes...
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    Seemingly poor reliability of WCR 47's/57's compared to other fleets?

    On paper the 67s can do all the stuff they are meant to in terms of heating or powering an air con set (the index is the same as a 47 after all). What happens in practice though isn't always the same. The software on them is designed to protect the loco but it can be prone to over assessing the...
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    Seemingly poor reliability of WCR 47's/57's compared to other fleets?

    A combination in some cases, but still making charter use iffy on air cons either way. The stock didn't help matters (I'll confirm that) but the eth system has proved too sensitive on longer rakes of air con stock (Inverness sleeper often being the most they could manage), even within the...
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    LNER Class 91/Mk4 service status/withdrawals/2021 refurbishment

    90s only ran to Newcastle with one of the link of London drivers who were passed out on them, hence no overnights there as Newcastle drivers weren't ever used for those.
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    Timeline for restoring various services withdrawn due to Covid

    A few extra services beyond Manchester plus a random Stalybridge terminator and some York shuttles later on for Scarborough on weekdays https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/search/detailed/gb-nr:SCA/2022-01-03/0000-2359?stp=WVS&show=all&order=wtt&toc=TP No idea what the mk5 sets will be on out of...
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    Seemingly poor reliability of WCR 47's/57's compared to other fleets?

    I wouldn't get too troubled by it all. But here's a few further points since the last post. As I understand from those who speak to the purse holders regularly, LSL will probably have some DRS 57/3s if/when they come up but none have gone up for sale (yet) so being just "stuck with 47s" isn't...

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