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    Working timetable abbreviations

    I've just got my first working timetable, (BR 1956 WTT of Freight trains - Todmorden and Great Harwood Junction & branch lines) and as explained to me in a previous thread there is an explanation of abbreviations in it, however it doesn't tell me what "V" means? Example: Depart 10V40 Can...
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    The branch lines committee

    I want to ask does anyone know anything about the branch lines committee? The only thing I can find out is that it was formed in 1949 with the remit to identify branch lines that were poor performers, i.e. losing money / not needed and to close them down. So who would have been on this...
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    Mark 1 coaches - how many people

    Hi, I'm just trying to work out how many people could sit on a Mark 1 carriage say around 1955. I can find out most of the details about them but it doesn't state how many people a single carriage could seat. Does anyone know please? Thanks, Andy.
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    Rose Grove to Padiham singled, but when.

    Hi, Well I think I am getting towards the end of my search for questions about the Great Harwood loop line (Lancashire) and really only have this one final question regarding the track - does anyone know when the line from Rose Grove down to Padiham was singled? I know Padiham signal box was...
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    Why a delay lifting a remaining line

    Hi, Well back on my favorite subject - the Great Harwood loop line, I think I have worked out (after 5 years research) the timeline for its removal. However, one thing still puzzles me... The Down line was lifted from Sept 1965 to Jan 1966 which included demolition of two stations and removal...
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    Withdrawn locos - how would you know

    Hi, The subject of when is an engine is withdrawn or not seems to vary depending on the situation (as far as I am told), but the question is this: If in 1967 as a spotter you were looking at Rose Grove (Burnley) MPD, how would you know which engines were withdrawn or not? Were they marked in...
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    Working timetables

    Hi, I have purchased a working timetable (BR London Midland region) 1956 which for various reasons I will get in a few weeks time. Now I understand what one of these is, and I can read timetables but I am wondering if any of you have one what are the common abbreviations etc that were used...
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    Justifying a line closure

    I have a theory based on how BR justified in part closing a line - the staff / wages of those on the line. I have a copy of a meeting between BR & the N.U.R. (May 1964) where BR state they are closing this particular line, one of the reasons is the staff cost... Now looking at the report, it...
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    Up and down lines & platforms

    I know this may sound like a silly question, but historically up lines tended to go towards larger towns / cities while down lines went away from them (but not always - so I am told). My problem is this: 1. There are two platforms. 2. Each platform has one line each serving it. 3. The...
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    North Lancashire loop Timetables around 1965

    Hi I was wondering are there any free / not so expensive sources on older working timetables, track diagrams etc. Period up to around 1965. I'm only interested in the Gt. Harwood loop line a.k.a. North Lancashire loop. There are lots of books out there but I am only interested in this line...
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    When to withdraw a locomotive from service

    I'm looking at a particular period, September 1967 and steam locomotives. I notice at Rose Grove MDP, 9/9/67 there were 21 8f locomotives sighted, of which 8 were listed as withdrawn. BR was phasing out the steam locomotives at a fast rate by now, but I was wondering why a particular engine...
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    Outside contractors

    Hi, A question about lifting a railway line & demolition of stations in the 1960's. I've been told in the past that when BR finally decided to "dispose" of a railway line they used mainly a combination of internal staff & outside contractors to do the work. If they used outside contractors...
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    Engine record card

    Hi everyone, Can anyone help please? I have three questions: 1. I have been sent an engine record card for locomotive 8f 48218, there is an entry in the shed allocation list that says O/L NWL does O/L mean on loan? (it was only there for a brief period of time) 2. What shed would NWL be...
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    One reason BR was pulling up lines

    Hi, Well I have been working on this for some time as I've always wondered why BR in the 1960's had a habit of singling double line branches then a year or two would finally pull the remaining line - here is one reason: What I found was not just the stated obvious - cutting down on the...
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    Old rail length

    I was wondering what was the length of individual rails used in the 1950s by BR were. Wikipedia states BR used 60 foot sections in 1950, but I never know if what I read is correct. I'm trying to calculate how many rails / sleepers my old 9 mile 284 yard long line used. I'm told 1,800 sleepers...
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    Power station coal usage

    I'm just looking at the Padiham power station (near Burnely, Lancs), because of it the short Padiham to Rose Grove section was saved and used for nearly 30 years after the rest of the loop line was pulled. And I'm wondering how many coal trains would have served it? According to this site...
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    High and low level stations

    Hi, At the expense of sounding stupid I want to ask a very basic railway question. What exactly in English were / are high and low level stations? Is it as simple as you have to go down to a low level station and up for a high level station from ground level? I've been to many stations where...
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    Rose Grove station then & now

    For me, I came across something interesting in that I never knew (or took notice of) the fact Rose Grove had two bay platforms at either end. One to serve the Todmorden line, and one for the North Lancs loop line (the latter is of interest to me). I have been through Rose Grove many times in...
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    What does past points junction mean

    Hi, Me again, just re-reading some emails I have about my old favourite line - can anyone please explain what this means: "at Great Harwood Junction 1966 there was NO TRACK at all to it's past points junction". Does this simply mean both the up and down lines leading on to the loop line were...
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    A long shot - OS maps

    I know this is a long shot, but does anyone have any OS maps of Lancashire dated 1967 to say 1970? As some of you will be aware I'm trying to confirm when the Great Harwood (North Lancs loop line) was lifted. I believe it was 1967. I have found an LCC report stating that gravel and sleepers...

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