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I suspect that reality is that there will be a few additions in terms of new services or even replacement services for those lost over Covid. There was a big rethink of services after Covid which has resulted in a lot of simplification and a lot of the services like Cat/Tatt to Victoria (peak or...

Fair point but doing other work sounds like an excuse made up for local rail users

Where did you get that info from, Local Rail users association were told that it is due to Network Rail doing other work whilst the line is closed.

Actually P3 Reigate was only brought into the Croydon project later - it already had a positive BCR in its own right based around the 2018 timetable proposals by GTR and NR. It would help with Timetabling and remove the 4 car issue. Probably teh better solution now is to extend one of the...

Agree on both Network Rail designed Platform 3 at Reigate to turn Thameslink 12 car Trains. Shame that seems to have disappeared and DfT refuse to talk about it now. Redhill needs a turnback platform for Tonbridge trains on the East side, to stop them crossing the main southern throat meaning...

I'd dispute that, as someone who regularly goes from Redhill to Brighton, the GatEx from Gatwick to Brighton normally arrive Gatwick relatively full and depart same - normally when I use at least half of seats will be taken - depending on time of day of course but mid-afternoon before peak and...

Southern Railway have also reduced their services accordingly and no longer need these units. They were taken out for two reasons, they were old and lacked Air-con, they weren't needed to run services. There are some pinch points on Southern's Network which will probably be addressed in next...

Always an issue at Redhill, as you have to look at 3 websites to find info, Southern, Thameslink and GWR - often they will not repeat each others news. It is infuriating, although occasionally Southern and Thameslink issue joint releases but not as often as you'd think considering they are the...

Send SE 20, precisely nos. 377 120 to 377 139 please - the ones with 3+2 along almost all of the unit. Assume if Great Northern get 30 379's then Southern will probably get 30 plus of the 39 387's to replace them, which will enable strengthening and a few extra services. Shame it is likely they...

As I said on the previous thread - Southern also completely refigured their rolling stock requirements by major changes to Timetables, when the 455's and 313's left. Most routes are still recording 70% of pre-Covid figures but more importantly spread throughout the day - not just at peak times...

Really odd today - I was on 9R23 (Three Bridges - Bedford) heading into London at London Bridge and noticed a parallel Thameslink Train going through platform 8 non-stop, it was 9S26 (Brighton to Cambridge). We were signalled to a stop just after London Bridge to let it cross and go up to...

Sunday at Redhill is two Thameslinks an hour from Three Bridges or Horsham alternate Hours, supplemented by Southern hourly Arun Valley services calling at Redhill with a Reigate to Victoria in the other half hour. All Southern services were withdrawn - Arun Valley due to Blockade between...

When COVID hit in 2020 - Southern services had already been reconfigured for two years based on Thameslink taking over many services. So when Southern withdrew the 455s and 313s these were separate changes to Thameslink taking over services. Horsham to Peterborough Services replaced the...

Southern also completely refigured their rolling stock requirements by major changes to Timetables, when the 455's and 313's left. Most routes are still recording 70% of pre-Covid figures but more importantly spread throughout the day - not just at peak times. They did this partly by removing...

The signage is mostly aimed at Airport Passengers only Whilst a large % will be going to the Airport, the numbers changing train every day are in the 1,000s. Personally do it at least once a week, sometimes more. Anyone coming from North Downs/Tonbridge/Redhill route for Hayward's Heath and...

We are talking Thameslink here (PBO to HOR) not Southern which do regularly turn late Victoria services at East Croydon. The turnback siding at Norwood I was told is not available to Thameslink when suggested. Edited post to make it clearer

When has it happened at East Croydon for Thameslink? I cannot think of it happening and have been monitoring the route for years. theoretically yes but actually? Similar with London Bridge - it happens with engineering but in disruption it is rare and mostly only happens when trains have gone...

We asked the same question in 2018 of GTR from Redhill about trains being turned round at London Bridge or East Croydon in disruption, and got the same assurances. In reality, they never turn round at East Croydon (as there is no ability to do that), there are no further turn round points...

Two platforms going in opposite directions, so very poor in reality. Why do they mix up Northbound and Southbound services on the same screen. Passengers only ever want to head in one direction and they want to see only trains in their direction. This really ought to be two screens for...

They did run Horsham to Redhill, the problem was nothing from Thameslink ran Redhill to East Croydon, as the Bedford to Three Bridges were already cancelled for the day due to the engineering works at London Bridge causing the diversions. That meant the route which normally has 4 12-car units...