Aiming to travel on Class 321 units

[Class360/1]

I avoid the renatus ones too. The door alarms are irritating and unnecessarily loud. The non PRM 321s alarms are perfect, not too loud and unique and a couple of them are strange and funny not gonna lie

I agree, I prefer the hustle alarms on the non renatus units- they are way too loud, but I like to see a variety- ie one renatus and a /4

 

[class321]

I agree, I prefer the hustle alarms on the non renatus units- they are way too loud, but I like to see a variety- ie one renatus and a /4

I have filmed a lot of them, every alarm is unique
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I have noticed more variety in the /4's compared to the /3's

 

[class321]

I may be an expert on the 321 but one thing I don't know is why did they give 321 units 421-437 spotty seats instead of stripy seats like every other 321? and has 321426 been around recently?

 

[Peter Mugridge]

I may be an expert on the 321 but one thing I don't know is why did they give 321 units 421-437 spotty seats instead of stripy seats like every other 321? and has 321426 been around recently?

I'm pretty sure I saw 321 426 yesterday, either at Colchester or Shenfield - I wasn't really paying attention. I was on the 16.43 Ipswich - Liverpool Street, if that helps.


Edited to correct a typo which, once again, I only noticed when someone immortalised it in a quote!

 

[JonathanH]

I may be an expert on the 321 but one thing I don't know is why did they give 321 units 421-437 spotty seats instead of stripy seats like every other 321? and has 321426 been around recently?

The spotty seat moquette was fitted by National Express to 421-437 when those units were displaced by 350/2s on the West Coast in 2009. At that time, the 'native' 321s retained the green moquette fitted in Great Eastern days.

The stripy moquette was fitted to the other 321s by Abellio much more recently - it wasn't fitted to 421-437.

You can see the spotty moquette on certain buses in the West Midlands.

 

[class321]

I'm pretty sure I saw 321 426 yesterday, either at Colchester or Shenfield - I wasn't really paying attention. I was on teh 16.43 Ipswich - Liverpool Street, if that helps.

Thank you , it does help

 

[class321]

The spotty seat moquette was fitted by National Express to 421-437 when those units were displaced by 350/2s on the West Coast in 2009. At that time, the 'native' 321s retained the green moquette fitted in Great Eastern days.

The stripy moquette was fitted to the other 321s by Abellio much more recently - it wasn't fitted to 421-437.

You can see the spotty moquette on certain buses in the West Midlands.

I see, it would be great if all 321's had them spotty seats, they look better than the stripy ones

 

[Class360/1]

I see, it would be great if all 321's had them spotty seats, they look better than the stripy ones

In terms of comfort, the spotty ones, in terms of appearance, stripy ones

 

[class321]

In terms of comfort, the spotty ones, in terms of appearance, stripy ones

Both of them have perfect comfort to me even though the stripy ones are newer.

 

[class321]

Has there been any 321 units that have lately just been introduced back in service after a while? e.g. 440

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

I took 321307 yesterday which means I’ve been on the whole 321/3 subclass at last. Just in time too as they’re disappearing quickly!

 

[Class360/1]

I took 321307 yesterday which means I’ve been on the whole 321/3 subclass at last.

Congrats!

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

Congrats!

Thank you very much indeed.

 

[class321]

I took 321307 yesterday which means I’ve been on the whole 321/3 subclass at last. Just in time too as they’re disappearing quickly!

Nice, did you manage to see any other 321's, preferably non PRM ones?

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

Nice, did you manage to see any other 321's, preferably non PRM ones?

Yes but I paid them no attention as I’ve been on them all. Having been on all 379s, 745s and remaining 317s my focus is now the 720s, of which I’ve been on fifteen so far.

 

[class321]

Yes but I paid them no attention as I’ve been on them all. Having been on all 379s, 745s and remaining 317s my focus is now the 720s, of which I’ve been on fifteen so far.

never been on a 379, as I have never heard of it.
I have only been on a 745 once
I have only been on a 317 once (317660)
And never been on a 720.

 

[Class360/1]

I’ve never been on a 720, but I’ve seen them numerous times when I pass my local station,
never been on a class 379, but I have heard of them
Been on a 745 once, thank Covid for that- seen them lots of times
Yet to go ok a 321/9 or a 322, but again I’ve seen them lots

before the 321/322’s go I hope to ride on a first capital connect unit and a 322

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

I’ve never been on a 720, but I’ve seen them numerous times when I pass my local station,
never been on a class 379, but I have heard of them
Been on a 745 once, thank Covid for that- seen them lots of times
Yet to go ok a 321/9 or a 322, but again I’ve seen them lots

before the 321/322’s go I hope to ride on a first capital connect unit and a 322

The ex Northern units have a very pleasant and colourful interior I think. The others are just drab gret.

 

[class321]

I’ve never been on a 720, but I’ve seen them numerous times when I pass my local station,
never been on a class 379, but I have heard of them
Been on a 745 once, thank Covid for that- seen them lots of times
Yet to go ok a 321/9 or a 322, but again I’ve seen them lots

before the 321/322’s go I hope to ride on a first capital connect unit and a 322

The first capital connect units and 322's are being used a lot recently, units 406, 407, 409 and 419.
I have no idea what happened to 402, 405 and 410
408 is in warm store

 

[Class360/1]

The first capital connect units and 322's are being used a lot recently, units 406, 407, 409 and 419.
I have no idea what happened to 402, 405 and 410
408 is in warm store

Yes, I can confirm that- 408 is stored at Colchester north

 

[class321]

Yes, I can confirm that- 408 is stored at Colchester north

Thanks

 

[Jim-s]

I was out and about today and managed to see:321s , 338 with an unknown unit London bound at colchester, 322 harwich bound at maningtree, 428 with 315 on liverpool st to Ipswich all day, and a short ride on 332 with 339
Had a nice run on 428 (the Essex commuter) with its spotty moquette and silver nat ex colours from colchester to Chelmsford via Ipswich, had a nice snooze as we were flying London bound, in the power car, windows open and sun shining,I have always loved the sound of a 321 acellerating to 100, managed to make a few recordings, too.

Still a great and comfortable ride in my opinion and just as good if not better but not as shiny as it’s succssors that I rode later in the day

Also rode in 315 and agree the door alarms on the refurb units are disturbing when your trying to get some shut eye, went back to 428 mid journey

Edited some incorrect numbers

 

[class321]

I was out and about today and managed to see:321s , 338 with an unknown unit London bound at colchester, 322 harwich bound at maningtree, 428 with 315 on liverpool st to Ipswich all day, and a short ride on 332 with 339
Had a nice run on 428 (the Essex commuter) with its spotty moquette and silver nat ex colours from colchester to Chelmsford via Ipswich, had a nice snooze as we were flying London bound, in the power car, windows open and sun shining,I have always loved the sound of a 321 acellerating to 100, managed to make a few recordings, too.

Still a great and comfortable ride in my opinion and just as good if not better but not as shiny as it’s succssors that I rode later in the day

Also rode in 315 and agree the door alarms on the refurb units are disturbing when your trying to get some shut eye, went back to 428 mid journey

Edited some incorrect numbers

That is 4 non PRM's and 2 PRM's. Thanks for sharing the info.

 

[Jim-s]

That is 4 non PRM's and 2 PRM's. Thanks for sharing the info.

I might have seen more, notes are a mess from today so will update later when I get them all together

 

[Jim-s]

Sorry if this is not the place for pictures
My notes in the earlier past were all the 321s I saw,
in a strange coincidence my journey today started and ended on the same unit , 322 with many others inbeween

 

[class321]

Sorry if this is not the place for pictures
My notes in the earlier past were all the 321s I saw,
in a strange coincidence my journey today started and ended on the same unit , 322 with many others inbeween

Once I went on a unit twice too, 361 from Stratford to Liverpool Street and 361 from Shenfield to Stratford. Good photos though.

 

[NSEFAN]

Observed 321s out today. Note that engineering works North of Ipswich means that the 1Pxx services are terminating there. 321s observed on these. Will post numbers as I see them.

321307+321341 on 1K20 LST - Southend Vic
321319+321902 on 1Y20 LST - Ipswich
321308+321326 on 1K22 LST - Southend Vic
321325+321304 on 2Y12 LST - Ipswich
321901+321428 1K39 Southend Vic - LST
321429+321426 1K41 Southend Vic - LST
321339 2J20 Wickford - Southminster
321336+321337 2K43 LST - Southend Vic
321406 2J13 Southminster - Wickford
321424+321421 1K22 LST - Southend Vic
321407+321318 2Y08 Ipswich - LST
321433+321301 1Y12 LST - Ipswich
321321+321338 1N18 LST - Clacton
321306+??? 1Y35 Ipswich - LST
321333+321327 1N33 Clacton - LST
321313 2F34 Colchester - Colchester Town
321312+321316 1N35 Clacton - LST
321434+321305 2Y16 LST - Ipswich
321???+321??? 1P35 Ipswich - LST
321329 2A16 Manningtree - Harwich Town
321314 1A97 Harwich Int - LST

321336+321340, 321409, 321322, 321410 parked up at Colchester

 

[class321]

Observed 321s out today. Note that engineering works North of Ipswich means that the 1Pxx services are terminating there. 321s observed on these. Will post numbers as I see them.

321307+321341 on 1K20 LST - Southend Vic
321319+321902 on 1Y20 LST - Ipswich
321308+321326 on 1K22 LST - Southend Vic
321325+321304 on 2Y12 LST - Ipswich
321901+??? 1K39 Southend Vic - LST

Please tell me if you see 321427, thanks.
??? = 428

 

[class321]

I went on the 321 for the last time today and I saw the following(Non PRM only, I hardly remember the PRM units):
321433
321341
321338
321434
321336 + 321337
321421 + 321424
321335 + 321427
321428
321426 + 321429
321333
321332
321407
I went on the following:
336
427
341

 

[Bikeman78]

I went on the 321 for the last time today and I saw the following(Non PRM only, I hardly remember the PRM units):
321433
321341
321338
321434
321336 + 321337
321421 + 321424
321335 + 321427
321428
321426 + 321429
321333
321332
321407
I went on the following:
336
427
341

To answer your question from the other thread, I went on 321427 when it was attached to 322484+322481. I see that 336+337, 421+424 and 426+429 are still paired up. I assume that they will get another dispensation to carry on running the non PRM units.