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All Arriva Trains Wales 175s taken out of service (28/02)

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Ouch. No north to south services along the Marches today to and from Holyhead or Manchester

"Due to urgent safety checks with our entire 175 ( long distance ) train fleet, we have had to suspend the majority of our long distance services today (28.02.18)"
 
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The full text of this announcement is here:

https://m.arrivatrainswales.co.uk

Due to urgent safety checks with our entire 175 ( long distance ) train fleet, we have had to suspend the majority of our long distance services today (28.02.18)

there will be no ATW services between Cardiff - Manchester / Holyhead (via Shrewsbury) until further notice

we have agreed ticket acceptance with all train operators and passengers who were travelling today will be able to use their tickets tomorrow instead

Cardiff Valleys services are unaffected

for further information please contact National Rail enquiries
 

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Do 175's not like snow and Icy rails? Is there any difference to the brakes / wheels etc on 175's to any other types of dmu traction?
 

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Not good at all - knock on is that Cambrian and Holyhead trains running as 2 carriages instead of 6 or 4...
 

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Expected to only affect today's services by and large though for now.

Selected Voyagers also to be examined, so possible short-forms on Virgin too.

158s are being taken to cover North Wales journeys starting from Shrewsbury covering for 175s, so short-forms all round for Birmingham - Cambrian Coast.
 

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Expected to only affect today's services by and large though for now.

Selected Voyagers also to be examined, so possible short-forms on Virgin too.

158s are being taken to cover North Wales journeys starting from Shrewsbury covering for 175s, so short-forms all round for Birmingham - Cambrian Coast.

Delays into Manchester Oxford Road due to a failed train - there’s an ATW 158 in the bay platform so I’m assuming it’s that. If so that’s one more unit down for ATW.
 

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Expected to only affect today's services by and large though for now.

Selected Voyagers also to be examined, so possible short-forms on Virgin too.

158s are being taken to cover North Wales journeys starting from Shrewsbury covering for 175s, so short-forms all round for Birmingham - Cambrian Coast.

Should be OK numbers traveling well down on normal due to weather.
 

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You’ve got that the wrong way round - damaged wheels (flangeback contact) suspected to be caused by a set of switches.

So presumably it could be any trains that have been through the points/switches since the last inspection i.e. including loco-hauled passenger and freight. Hopefully some 175s can be released quickly if they aren't in that group.
 

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Expected to only affect today's services by and large though for now.

Selected Voyagers also to be examined, so possible short-forms on Virgin too.

158s are being taken to cover North Wales journeys starting from Shrewsbury covering for 175s, so short-forms all round for Birmingham - Cambrian Coast.

Also,as is normal when there's a shortage of stock, the 150 off the Conwy Valley has been "borrowed" - meaning that service is bustituted yet again!
 

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ATW have posted an update, it maybe due to track issues or the damage trains have caused track damage

Network Rail and Arriva Trains Wales are carrying out essential safety checks on rail infrastructure and trains after inspections of the fleet revealed some damage to particular trains late last night. The majority of long-distance Arriva Trains Wales services operating in North Wales, West Wales and the Marches are currently suspended as a result. The safety of our customers and our people is a key priority, therefore our frontline staff are currently working hard in very difficult weather conditions to ensure thorough checks are undertaken across fleet and infrastructure.

Some of our services will be operating with fewer carriages and additionally, given the worsening weather predicted over the next few days, we are advising customers to travel only if absolutely necessary and to ensure that they check www.arrivatrains.wales/check to see if their journey will be affected. We are working together to put in place alternative transport for our customers where possible, however, this will be very limited due to weather conditions and the number of services affected.

We would like to apologise to anyone affected, we thank customers for their patience whilst we work to resolve this issue and remind them to check before they travel.
 

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So presumably it could be any trains that have been through the points/switches since the last inspection i.e. including loco-hauled passenger and freight. Hopefully some 175s can be released quickly if they aren't in that group.

There must be some reason why ATW have grounded all 175s but left the 158s in service.
 

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Two ECS. 5T01 and 5T02 formed of 3 and 2 x 175s respectively ran from Carmarthen to Canton this morning for inspection
 

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Looks like ATW have suspended services on the Blaenau Ffestiniog branch. Possibly to free up DMUs for other services?

Also does anyone know why one ATW service left Manchester Piccadilly this morning for North Wales but was terminated at Oxford Road?
 

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The do not want to set up trains running until they work out why it has happened.

Be interesting to see how this plays out.
 

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Might this be from new crossovers installed on the North Wales Coast line for the new signalling?
Flint I think was the location recently installed, and there are other new ones at Rhyl.
Plus the new crossover at Frodsham for the Halton Curve.

Llandudno-Manchester mostly turning at Chester, onwards by Northern.
VT and Manchester LHCS seem to be working OK.
 
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Might this be from new crossovers installed on the North Wales Coast line for the new signalling?
Flint I think was the location recently installed, and there are other new ones at Rhyl.

Llandudno-Manchester mostly turning at Chester, onwards by Northern.
VT and Manchester LHCS seem to be working OK.
AIUI ATW believe the suspected cause is infrastructure related, between Hereford and Shrewsbury, hence suspension of Marches trains.

WAG set reportedly being checked at Canton. Most 175s and a couple of 158s have been stopped as a result.
 
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Statement released by the WAG.
 

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Amended timetables across the whole ATW network tomorrow with service levels on the Valley lines roughly halved.

https://www.arrivatrainswales.co.uk/timetable-change/

Probably a Pacer only service on the Valley Lines. I can see the complaints coming when passengers can't board trains (this is a regular event especially in the event of being short formed) and they are left to wait out in the open in the current freezing temperatures
 

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Amended timetables across the whole ATW network tomorrow with service levels on the Valley lines roughly halved.

https://www.arrivatrainswales.co.uk/timetable-change/

Thanks - some old lags and I were hoping to do our Annual St David's day excursion to Machynlleth - probably prudent to abandon if only a 2 car working - to provide seats for other , more essential travellers. Any feel though how the Cambrian has fared today train length wise.....
 

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Thanks - some old lags and I were hoping to do our Annual St David's day excursion to Machynlleth - probably prudent to abandon if only a 2 car working - to provide seats for other , more essential travellers. Any feel though how the Cambrian has fared today train length wise.....
everything 2 car through Newtown today, however given the weather the numbers are significantly down so has not been problem certainly not west of Shrewsbury.
 

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Thanks - some old lags and I were hoping to do our Annual St David's day excursion to Machynlleth - probably prudent to abandon if only a 2 car working - to provide seats for other , more essential travellers. Any feel though how the Cambrian has fared today train length wise.....
All been single 158s bar the 14:09 ex BHI which was a double
 

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everything 2 car through Newtown today, however given the weather the numbers are significantly down so has not been problem certainly not west of Shrewsbury.

Many thanks - looks like a loss to the Mid Wales economy (we had booked lunch in the Wynnstay at Mach for 8) - too risky I reckon and not right to clutter up a 2 car from BHI to Salop when other people have pressing need to travel. Second time we have tried the Cambrian on March 1st - a spectacular OLE incident scuppered it about 4 years - and best lay off for the morrow.
 

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Delays into Manchester Oxford Road due to a failed train - there’s an ATW 158 in the bay platform so I’m assuming it’s that. If so that’s one more unit down for ATW.
There was a train fault at Porthmadog this morning too, train departed there 20 down JourneyCheck said, earlier.
 
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