cactustwirly
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That's correct, Air France was deliberately chosen to operate the last flight out because they were the first airline to fly to Tegel.
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That's correct, Air France was deliberately chosen to operate the last flight out because they were the first airline to fly to Tegel.
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Butts
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An interesting loophole, unfortunately merely academic now as BA have cancelled all Flights to Gibraltar during the "English Lockdown".
I wonder how long it will be before Sturgeon "closes this door"
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A TUI Nederland or Belgique Dreamliner went to Greenville-Spartanburg yesterday; reason unknown unless somebody here knows more.
I'd love to think it's off for scrap but it's likely too new for that.
I'd love to think it's off for scrap but it's likely too new for that.
Hell of a detour to go to a tiny aiport in Alaska
flymo
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Quite a strange diversion too, looking at the playback on FR24 it went straight from Casablanca to Liverpool once it passed the north coast of Spain, never got anywhere near Brussels. Belgium shut ? It took off again after about 3 hours in Liverpool.
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Oh, Liverpool! Makes more sense than Quartz Creek Airport!
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A KLM A330 has run into a parked/stored 747 of the same airline in Schiphol. Damage is minor though.
Hope this isn't revenge for the 787 bashing an A350 in Doha back in May!
Hope this isn't revenge for the 787 bashing an A350 in Doha back in May!
FrodshamJnct
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Looks like a BA 747 caught fire at Castellon today. Does anyone know which one?
221129
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G-CIVD went up in smoke
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Bet it would still work - tough old things they are.
Peter Mugridge
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It was the cockpit area that was damaged, though, judging from various pictures on Twitter.
Apparently it started when something was being cut out as part of the dismantling process.
I just had an email to say that easyJet are bringing their cabin baggage allowance in line with that of Ryanair and Wizzair. As of February, passengers will only be able take a small underseat bag onboard without paying for an upfront or extra legroom seat or they can pay to check in a trolley bag.
it’s a bit more subtle than that.
If you have already paid for a extra leg room or ‘upfront’ seat, you can carry on a small underseat bag and a ‘normal’ size cabin bag for free. Similarly, if you have paid the flexi fare, the larger cabin bag is free.
If you haven’t done any of these, then it is a small underseat bag only, unless you pay the hold bag fee for your larger cabin bag. If, say yu have a large cabin bag and a hold bag, you pay two bag fees.
I’m a bit disappointed with easyjet for this to be honest. I know times are desperate, but this adds potential confusion to the process.
Butts
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Sounds identical to Ryanair's Policy.
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Shame, think it's a joke that they can change the terms of my ticket for May.
I don't think they should be able to, but I guess their argument would be that you're free to cancel and take your business elsewhere.
Bletchleyite
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I reckon that would be challengeable in Court as breach of contract or bait-and-switch, I wonder if anyone will?
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I doubt it but I'm fairly annoyed. I'll happily pay extra for jet2 with all the extra money I've saved not going on holiday this year.
eoff
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The BBC article says that they will not charge for existing bookings.
EasyJet have the cheek to say this will improve the service but the overhead lockers are only full because airlines differentiate ticket pricing for what used to be a standard hold baggage allowance included in the price, before this started I don't recall such a problem.
Yes, but...
Meanwhile, Mr O’Leary is busy being a Boeing salesman. Another reason not to fly with them.
Interesting that the 737-MAX is, err, not being referred to as such.
Meanwhile, Mr O’Leary is busy being a Boeing salesman. Another reason not to fly with them.
Interesting that the 737-MAX is, err, not being referred to as such.
Boeing 737 Max sees first firm order since crashes
Irish airline Ryanair's purchase is a boost for the Max, which was grounded after two deadly crashes.
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O'Leary has always been bullish, but this shows good confidence in the future from Ryanair.
I don't think the 737 Max is fundamentally unsafe. It was certainly flawed, but only when paired with poor piloting did the aircraft crash. The flaws have now been ironed out and there'll be more training for pilots on the use of MCAS.
Honestly, I would get on one tomorrow with little hesitation.
More good news for the UK aviation market. Wizzair has decided to open up a based in Cardiff. Hopefully there'll be more choice at lower prices for those of us based in South Wales.
I don't think the 737 Max is fundamentally unsafe. It was certainly flawed, but only when paired with poor piloting did the aircraft crash. The flaws have now been ironed out and there'll be more training for pilots on the use of MCAS.
Honestly, I would get on one tomorrow with little hesitation.
More good news for the UK aviation market. Wizzair has decided to open up a based in Cardiff. Hopefully there'll be more choice at lower prices for those of us based in South Wales.
Bletchleyite
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Indeed - one of the issues with MCAS was that nobody knew about how it would behave. Now they do, the same accident wouldn't happen again even if they didn't modify it.
It was still an awful "bodgit and scarper" piece of design, though. It's really about time Boeing binned the 1960s design of the 737 and designed a completely new short-haul platform based on the 787.
I’d use a different phrase, albeit very nearly an anagram.
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It's all pounds, shillings and pence though (well, dollars and cents!). The Max was a lot cheaper, faster and less risky (no laughing at the back) for Boeing to develop than a brand new airframe. It sold exceptionally well before the crashes showing that it was the correct decision in commercial terms.
The 737 saves a lot on costs because it has many grandfathered rights which make the plane much cheaper to manufacture. Even for basic things (door sizes, max number of seats, emergency exits etc. etc.), it doesn't meet modern regulations. Any new design would lose all of these advantages.
Speed43125
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That's the way I read it!
I agree it would be significantly less likely, but without the redesign there were still ways it could have caused an accident.
My own feeling is that what lead to the MAX situation is, one way or another, the result of a series of decisions that reflect a particular corporate culture at Boeing.
Unfortunately, that means that I am now inherently less comfortable (although admittedly it's all about degrees, and I'd favour a competent Boeing operator over an incompetent Airbus one) flying a newer Boeing product than I am an Airbus one.
The inconvenient truth is that the 737 is getting on for seventy years old as a design concept, and that concept was in itself quite different from the one that MAX is purported to be.
Some may remember the Kegworth crash, which was catalysed by Boeing grandfathering things through, but fundamental changes to the aircraft's systems had been made, and flight crew were not trained on them. Worse still, the initial response was to try and blame the crew.
That was in 1989, more than thirty years ago, and totally different in technical cause to the MAX crashes, but not so dissimilar, it seems, in terms of how the causes came to occur.
Full disclosure, also: Airbus serves a much better lunch at the factory.
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