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The first Mk3/Mk3-based vehicle fleet to be scrapped after withdrawal (as opposed to accident damage / experimental) was surely the class 450s from 2012 onwards.

I believe this was the first UK mk3 derived multiple unit fleet to be withdrawn as life expired/surplus.
 
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cjmillsnun

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The first Mk3/Mk3-based vehicle fleet to be scrapped after withdrawal (as opposed to accident damage / experimental) was surely the class 450s from 2012 onwards.

I believe this was the first UK mk3 derived multiple unit fleet to be withdrawn as life expired/surplus.
Class 450? Are you sure. They’re Siemens Desiro units.
 

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The first Mk3/Mk3-based vehicle fleet to be scrapped after withdrawal (as opposed to accident damage / experimental) was surely the class 450s from 2012 onwards.

I believe this was the first UK mk3 derived multiple unit fleet to be withdrawn as life expired/surplus.
Assume you're referring to the Northern Ireland fleet? If so they were mark 1 based chassis with a sprinter look alike body on top.
 
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Class 450? Are you sure. They’re Siemens Desiro units.
No I mean the Class 450 DEMUs which were based on mk3 body shells. The Class 450 EMUs as you say are completely post mk3 design.

Same class number as only the GB part of the UK uses the Rolling Stock Library for fleet numbering.

Assume you're referring to the Northern Ireland fleet? If so they were mark 1 based chassis with a sprinter look alike body on top.

Spot on, old mk1 chassis with a 150 style mk3 body shell
 
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Class 210 would be the winner for earliest withdrawal. It was covered a little bit in the below thread


By Vechile


SetVehicle NumbersScrap Date
2100016020121/05/2003 (Raxstar Eastleigh)
60401Scrapped – body may still survive?
60450Jan 1996 (EMR Attecliffe)
60300Preserved EKR as 457


SetVehicle NumbersScrap Date
2100026020020/05/2003 (Raxstar Eastleigh)
60400Reused in Class 455 5912 (plug door trials)
60301Reused in Class 455 5913 (Oxshott)

The only question is on 60401. The rest of the information came from deparmentals/known info.
 

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Class 210 would be the winner for earliest withdrawal. It was covered a little bit in the below thread


By Vechile


SetVehicle NumbersScrap Date
2100016020121/05/2003 (Raxstar Eastleigh)
60401Scrapped – body may still survive?
60450Jan 1996 (EMR Attecliffe)
60300Preserved EKR as 457


SetVehicle NumbersScrap Date
2100026020020/05/2003 (Raxstar Eastleigh)
60400Reused in Class 455 5912 (plug door trials)
60301Reused in Class 455 5913 (Oxshott)

The only question is on 60401. The rest of the information came from deparmentals/known info.
Disallowed as the original post excluded accident damaged and experimental vehicles. I’d suggest the 210s fall into the latter.
 

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No, 318254 was young enough to have its cab completely rebuilt. Part of 318254 ended up on its side at Anderston in 2007 as well. The 318 fleet is intact.
Also was the first EMU into a west end bay platform at Waverley, having been wrong routed into P16 on Christmas Eve 2004 & left its pan behind on the way in.
Am I imagining it or did it come off somewhere in the station throat area at Glasgow Central as well?
 

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Also was the first EMU into a west end bay platform at Waverley, having been wrong routed into P16 on Christmas Eve 2004 & left its pan behind on the way in.
Am I imagining it or did it come off somewhere in the station throat area at Glasgow Central as well?

going off topic with answer. No it was 318255 that derailed outside Glasgow Central. I was on platform 11 at the time it left Glasgow Central and tipped over
 

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Just as the NI 450 DEMU are not Mk3 construction (being Mk1 frames with 150 DMU body fixed on top), the GB 210 DEMU power cars (but only the power cars) are also not Mk3.

60200 and 60201 were actually HST power car frame elements with 317 EMU type body elements fixed on top. No way could a Mk3 carriage carry that dead weight engine lump, and the rest, etc.

60200 and 60201 may look like Mk3, and all the spotter books etc may claim they were, but they were not actually Mk3.
 

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When did the units 321420 and 321418 leave greater anglia?
To give you an idea of timings, 321418 arrived at Kilmarnock for ScotRail conversion on 16/11/2018, and 321420 arrived on 11/07/2018.
 

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From what I can ascertain, 71961 and 71962 were cut at Booths in October 2018 and 71963 and 71966 in March 20.

Any ideas on the fates of 71960, 71964, 71965 and 71968?

I’ve assumed that 71959 is still at Doncaster...

Just a little bump if anyone knows the fate of the 4 trailers?
 

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