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Does anyone have any information about the nature of the timetable change for TfL Rail West and East. Based on very very brief observations today it looks like they have reduced the train dwell times at Paddington and Liverpool Street?? Is this in preparation for through services later in the year?? I realise this might not be ideal place to post this question, but I'd rather not be responsible for starting new thread.
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The TfL timetables are posted on the TfL website but it does not appear to have changed much on the western side. Fewer trains in the morning peak. I don't know about the east and I'm not sure the timetable is up to date as the pdf does not show the Heathrow T4 trains which are shown on RTT.
reddragon
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But they have changed just enough to break the connection with the GWR TV services at Reading adding 15 mins to stopping service connections on the up services.
A lot of the PAD departure times seem very slightly different. I recall there are ghost slots for Maidenhead services (which won't be used until core services link to West), maybe this is why everything is jiggled? Anyone know why the diagrams for HXX and RDG are now merged? I know the dwell times in PAD were super long previously off peak, so maybe it's simple efficiency gains? Reducing number of units required to run the service?
PAD - Paddington
HXX - Heathrow Central (T2,3)
RDG - Reading
PAD - Paddington
HXX - Heathrow Central (T2,3)
RDG - Reading
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I had not seen that. That must be really annoying for those that have to change. I have assumed that they are making these changes in preparation for the final service in May 2023, but I don't know.
reddragon
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My son used to have 5 minute changes, now the crossrail trains depart as it pulls in! This is peak times mind you maybe different off peak?
Just checked - peak has added 10 mins, off peak added 15 mins. Right pain for the regular TV commuters!
No, 345038 running means all the 9-car units are accounted for now in passenger operation.
68 units have worked passenger services as 9-car units now. 345064 is currently 7-car but did have a period in passenger service as a 9-car. 345042 and 345056 are also currently 7-car but haven't ever worked passenger services as 9-car units.
Peter Sarf
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Does that mean that the two cars for 064 must already be at Old Oak Common then ?.
No. As discussed previously 345064 was converted back from 9-car to 7-car in the middle of 2020. The coaches are stored elsewhere, along with those for 345042 and 345056.
https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/class-345-progress.120221/page-148#post-5286440
Peter Sarf
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Thanks, so the coaches have not stayed at OOC once removed.
square_boffin
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My monies on T1 from Paddington and T70 from Abbey Wood in the morning
Is that more evidence that Paddington is the right place to start rather than Abbey Wood?
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Snow1964
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Elizabeth Line West and Elizabeth line East are now open
Timetables are available here
Timetables are available here
008 at ABW
Part time spotter's blog indicates that 345001 did indeed form the 0633 from Paddington. 345070 was the 0620 from Abbey Wood.
richardcoughla
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001 from PAD
Invincible
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So far so good!
Alstom will keep a close eye on the trains.
Guess the traction control box on the train at Plumstead will be replaced, tested and the train will sometime go into service?
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samuelmorris
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Yeah I remember the press articles when they all had to stress "this isn't the final moquette".
It was always the case but the final pattern for the moquette was only approved circa a week before the units were first shown on the Press day at Derby and the production of the material had yet to start, hence Bombardier used some existing cloth that was never approved for a previous build to get the unit out.
There are only a limited number of colour that meet TfL criteria for "line colour" purposes (sufficiently different to other in Tone + Colour and capable of being made into enamel signs with multiple baking stages). 3 of the the last 4 spare colours identified when opening the Jubilee line have now been used (W&C turquoise, LO Orange and Crossrail Purple)
Kite159
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Silly question but I'm curious to know what this device near one of the wheels is for?
i belive it's for the CBTC? to help allign the train with the PED's
iphone76
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It's the receiver for the DOO CCTV system. The cameras are based on the platform and the images are fed/broadcast to the train via a cable which runs along the side of the platform.
It's quite a good system as if the train is brought to a stand halfway out of the station, the driver can see what is going on the platform as the second receiver will still be alongside the platform
Kite159
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Thanks, it just caught my eye when I was sitting at Romford earlier.
The system is called 'leaky feeder', it's common on LU but not the mainline, which usually just uses cameras attached to the train.
There is a coaxial cable (a central metal core inside a tubular metal shield, separated by a plastic spacer) but with the shield perforated at regular intervals — this is enough to protect the signal from interference, while still allowing it to 'leak' out along the length of the installation.
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