Class 442s - Now at the end of the road and to be withdrawn permanently

[VEP3417]

looks like today is an unlucky day for photographers

 

[Western Sunset]

I missed it too! Should've twigged that with a loco at each end it might reverse short at Branksome and that is what indeed happened. C'est la vie!

At least I got some photos of the Class 444 with rainbow ends at Poole......

 

[VEP3417]

At least I got some photos of the Class 444 with rainbow ends at Poole......

i got some pics of one of thos when the last 442 came down, i keep also seeing refurbished sets coupled to old white liveries sets

is there another thread to continue the discussion/post photos?

 

[Western Sunset]

Looks like it's reversing at Branksome.

 

[spark001uk]

Looks like it's reversing at Branksome.

Did you mean to post that photo? Just looks like two people standing on a platform!

 

[pompeyfan]

It appears there’s been an SPZ this week to allow AC 442 testing. There’s a 5Z00 at Weymouth as I type.

 

[theironroad]

It appears there’s been an SPZ this week to allow AC 442 testing. There’s a 5Z00 at Weymouth as I type.

I wonder if anyone has actually been out on the ground to see exactly what the stock is, whether a 442 or 455?

 

[spark001uk]

I wonder if anyone has actually been out on the ground to see exactly what the stock is, whether a 442 or 455?

Well it's come out of Bournemouth depot so probably 442.
I do remember 455s performing some passing runs recently, but I don't know if they are kept at bomo or sent down from London when required.
Either way, there's nothing else showing on the diagram currently, right up as far as Southampton. So it's likely testing alone.

 

[Don Steedy]

2419 has gone to Weymouth tonight with 5901 & 5739 providing the tow to Weymouth. Seen going down through Moreton earlier

 

[pompeyfan]

2419 has gone to Weymouth tonight with 5901 & 5739 providing the tow to Weymouth. Seen going through Moreton earlier tonight

Are they coupled together? I bet that’s a sight and a half!

 

[spark001uk]

Wow, that'll be a sight.! Wonder if anyone down there has got some footage.

Are they coupled together? I bet that’s a sight and a half!

Haha snap!

 

[theironroad]

2419 has gone to Weymouth tonight with 5901 & 5739 providing the tow to Weymouth. Seen going down through Moreton earlier

Many thanks.

Not sure if that's the first time a 442(AC) has finally started testing but good it's got going.

The 5Z00 timings seem to suggest it was back in the depot a few hours later so wonder if any testing of the 442 alone was done.

 

[pompeyfan]

Many thanks.

Not sure if that's the first time a 442(AC) has finally started testing but good it's got going.

The 5Z00 timings seem to suggest it was back in the depot a few hours later so wonder if any testing of the 442 alone was done.

depot rumour is there was a paperwork issue and the 442 had to return to Bournemouth before testing could take place.

 

[nlogax]

Wow, that'll be a sight.! Wonder if anyone down there has got some footage.


Haha snap!

Absolutely! Has that sort of coupling ever happened before?

 

[spark001uk]

Absolutely! Has that sort of coupling ever happened before?

I can't say I've ever heard these two classes coupling before, but I think tightlock to buckeye has been done in the past, with an adaptor. Wasn't it called a mushroom pin or something?

 

[nlogax]

I can't say I've ever heard these two classes coupling before, but I think tightlock to buckeye has been done in the past, with an adaptor. Wasn't it called a mushroom pin or something?

Apparently so as I've read on older threads here but not actually seen a picture.

 

[aleggatta]

on my 442 LOR training from a few years ago we were told that the buckeyes and tightlocks in this config could couple without any adapters, but that there was a speed restriction applied in this configuration. Also not sure how the 455/442 electrical connections play with each other or if they would even bother trying to jumper the units up that way!

 

[pompeyfan]

I don’t think it needs an adapter, 442s were occasionally found attached to a 400 or a 73.

 

[Don Steedy]

on my 442 LOR training from a few years ago we were told that the buckeyes and tightlocks in this config could couple without any adapters, but that there was a speed restriction applied in this configuration. Also not sure how the 455/442 electrical connections play with each other or if they would even bother trying to jumper the units up that way!

AC 442s now have 42-way jumpers, same as 455s

 

[supervc-10]

Sorry, I'm not familiar with the SWR unit numbers- does this mean an AC 442 coupled to an AC 455?

 

[Nym]

AC 442s now have 42-way jumpers, same as 455s

Although they are both 42 ways, I'm not sure the pinout is the same, seems too sensible to me.

 

[dgl]

I'm guessing the 455's and the 442's have a similar if not the same traction package (the AC ones that is) and as such coupling the two is akin to coupling a 444 to a 450, different top speed (and probably acceleration/gearing/kW) but so long as you don't exceed the maximum speed of the 455 you are fine.

 

[Western Sunset]

Anyone know what today's 5Y00 0857 Weymouth - Woking (via Guildford) and 5Y01 return 1303 Woking - BM Depot (also via Guildford) moves are to do with?

 

[spark001uk]

Anyone know what today's 5Y00 0857 Weymouth - Woking (via Guildford) and 5Y01 return 1303 Woking - BM Depot (also via Guildford) moves are to do with?

That's usually just a cl.450 run. Stock move / route knowledge, something like that. I often see 5Y01 on my travels.

 

[Western Sunset]

Thanks. Thought it might've been a class 442 0r 455 run.......
Saves me going out in the cold.

 

[TEW]

Just a route knowledge retention run for Bournemouth drivers, runs daily, booked a single Class 444 at present.

 

[Western Sunset]

Thanks. Save me a draughty half-hour waiting at Branksome.

 

[spark001uk]

Should be another southbound drag Monday. 57312 went to Wolverton this afternoon taking a 455 up, and looks like it's stopping there til Monday morning so should be that hauling unless it's called away.
Unit 442413.
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0928 Wolverton Centre Sidings to Bournemouth T&R.S.M.D
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There is also a light engine path from Wolv to Leicester LIP in the system for that afternoon too, guessing that's incase the drag is canned.

 

[VEP3417]

says it stops at brockenhurst again, witch it probably wont, i think thats now code for...its probably going to be half an hour or so late

 

[pompeyfan]

Appears to be an up working Monday night from Bournemouth to Arlington, then Tuesday from Arlington to Wolverton