Class 707 to Southeastern Dates

[Mikey C]

Unsure if it’s just coincidence but certainly pre-COVID on the Metro routes off peak, I noticed that the 376s would be concentrated far more on Cannon Street services, with only a couple out of Charing Cross and the rest Networkers

That would make sense if the 376s were used on the "loop" services via Greenwich, Slade Green and Sidcup, especially as Woolwich Dockyard can only take 10 cars.

 

[ScotGG]

There's was barely any 12-car Networker services on the Woolwich dockyard line anyway due to a lack of rolling stock with SDO. Maybe one service a day? The rounders could still have been 8 or 10-car 465/466.

 

[capitalconnect]

There's was barely any 12-car Networker services on the Woolwich dockyard line anyway due to a lack of rolling stock with SDO. Maybe one service a day? The rounders could still have been 8 or 10-car 465/466.

Whatever happened to twelve coach 465 trains? As i remember seeing twelve coach 465 trains quite a few years ago but i have not seen any such formations for many years now? Are there still any twelve coach 465 workings anywhere on the Southeastern network? Or do these no longer exist?

 

[ComUtoR]

Are there still any twelve coach 465 workings anywhere on the Southeastern network?

Yes, quite a few

 

[43066]

Whatever happened to twelve coach 465 trains? As i remember seeing twelve coach 465 trains quite a few years ago but i have not seen any such formations for many years now? Are there still any twelve coach 465 workings anywhere on the Southeastern network? Or do these no longer exist?

They’re a pain operationally because of limited places where they can operate. Platforms 1 - 3 only at Charing +, can’t stop at Woolwich Dockyard or most of the Chatham mainline stations etc. Hence even pre Covid they were relatively few and far between.

They also only really have about as much crowd busting capacity as a 10 car 376 due to the number of seats in Networkers.

 

[capitalconnect]

Yes, quite a few

Many thanks! I must just be in the wrong places at the wrong times! Any idea where they are generally found currently? Is it only on certain routes and only in peak times?

 

[Class 466]

Many thanks! I must just be in the wrong places at the wrong times! Any idea where they are generally found currently? Is it only on certain routes and only in peak times?

Every 2Mxx Charing X to Dartford via Bexleyheath is a 12 car from 1627 to 1957 I believe.

 

[capitalconnect]

Every 2Mxx Charing X to Dartford via Bexleyheath is a 12 car from 1627 to 1957 I believe.

Many thanks for the information. I shall look out for these ones.

 

[brad465]

Whatever happened to twelve coach 465 trains? As i remember seeing twelve coach 465 trains quite a few years ago but i have not seen any such formations for many years now? Are there still any twelve coach 465 workings anywhere on the Southeastern network? Or do these no longer exist?

As well as limited operational capacity mentioned further up, for a while there's not been enough stock to form 12 cars in peak time service without compromising other services. You can also only form them from 3x465s, as IIRC 2x465s + 2x466s is slightly too long from the extra cabs involved. While strictly not SE, Thameslink don't send their 12 car 700s down to Rainham, while they have SDO, they don't serve Woolwich Dockyard anyway.

 

[ValleyLines142]

Are there any Sunday workings? I'm in London today and wouldn't mind a jump on one.

 

[Class 466]

Are there any Sunday workings? I'm in London today and wouldn't mind a jump on one.

I may bw wrong but I believe the workings are still weekday only.

 

[urpert]

Certainly not seen or heard any on the Hayes line at weekends.

 

[ValleyLines142]

I may bw wrong but I believe the workings are still weekday only.

Not to worry, thank you!

 

[Pep and co]

Presuming that they are having the weekends off duty where are they usually stabled over the weekend?

 

[DA1]

Presuming that they are having the weekends off duty where are they usually stabled over the weekend?

Slade Green and Grove Park.

 

[Pep and co]

Slade Green and Grove Park.

Thanks DA1.
Might pop over next time I'm in the area

 

[ComUtoR]

Slade Green and Grove Park.

Gillingham too...

 

[markyl]

If you text #CityBeam to SouthEastern’s WhatsApp number you get an auto response…

Our new Class 707 City Beam trains are now in service and will* form the following weekday services:

Sidcup Line:
05:31 Crayford to Cannon Street
06:19 Crayford to Charing Cross
09:18 Charing Cross to Gravesend
09:38 Cannon Street to Cannon Street via Sidcup and Woolwich
10:48 Gravesend to Charing Cross
14:18 Charing Cross to Gravesend
14:38 Cannon Street to Cannon Street via Sidcup and Woolwich
15:48 Gravesend to Charing Cross
17:02 Charing Cross to Gravesend
18:18 Gravesend to Charing Cross
19:32 Charing Cross to Dartford
19:38 Cannon Street to Cannon Street via Sidcup and Woolwich

Grove Park Line:
06:20 Cannon Street to Orpington
07:11 Orpington to Cannon Street
11:20 Cannon Street to Orpington
12:11 Orpington to Cannon Street
16:20 Cannon Street to Orpington
17:11 Orpington to Cannon Street
21:20 Cannon Street to Orpington
22:11 Orpington to Cannon Street

Hayes Line:
07:57 Cannon Street to Hayes
08:45 Hayes to Cannon Street
12:57 Cannon Street to Hayes
13:45 Hayes to Cannon Street
17:57 Cannon Street to Hayes
18:45 Hayes to Cannon Street
22:57 Cannon Street to Hayes

Bexleyheath Line:
08:16 Cannon Street to Cannon Street via Bexleyheath and Woolwich
15:17 Cannon Street to Cannon Street via Bexleyheath and Woolwich
17:15 Cannon Street to Cannon Street via Bexleyheath and Woolwich
19:15 Cannon Street to Cannon Street via Bexleyheath and Woolwich

Woolwich Line:
07:09 Slade Green to Cannon Street
07:12 Charing Cross to Dartford via Lewisham
08:11 Dartford to Charing Cross via Lewisham
08:16 Cannon Street to Cannon Street via Bexleyheath and Woolwich
09:38 Cannon Street to Cannon Street via Sidcup and Woolwich
12:12 Charing Cross to Dartford via Lewisham
13:11 Dartford to Charing Cross via Lewisham
14:38 Cannon Street to Cannon Street via Sidcup and Woolwich
19:38 Cannon Street to Cannon Street via Sidcup and Woolwich
15:17 Cannon Street to Cannon Street via Bexleyheath and Woolwich
17:15 Cannon Street to Cannon Street via Bexleyheath and Woolwich
19:15 Cannon Street to Cannon Street via Bexleyheath and Woolwich

*These services are planned to be operated by Class 707 City Beam trains but may change at short notice for operational reasons.

For more details on our new trains click here https://www.southeasternrailway.co.uk/tickets/more-ways-to-travel/introducing-the-city-beam

To find out more information about the Southeastern WhatsApp service, reply with #Menu

 

[Juniper Driver]

How many there now?
My spies tell me they look very nice in their new livery.

 

[Siemens Staines]

Partimespotter report 707001 & 707029 is use with SouthEastern today

SE Class 707 Allocations 16/11/2021

Subject to short notice cancellation, delays and diversions. (Diagrams are here) Allocations 707001 – SG701 707002 – Not allocated 707003 – Not allocated 707004 – Not alloca…

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Their inactivity with SWR would suggest that 707014 & 707019 may be next? (the other 12 707s with SWR have been in use within the last few days)

 

[Mikey C]

Partimespotter report 707001 & 707029 is use with SouthEastern today

SE Class 707 Allocations 16/11/2021

Subject to short notice cancellation, delays and diversions. (Diagrams are here) Allocations 707001 – SG701 707002 – Not allocated 707003 – Not allocated 707004 – Not alloca…

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Their inactivity with SWR would suggest that 707014 & 707019 may be next? (the other 12 707s with SWR have been in use within the last few days)

The thumbnail produced by that link is somewhat inaccurate

 

[Wolfie]

Partimespotter report 707001 & 707029 is use with SouthEastern today

SE Class 707 Allocations 16/11/2021

Subject to short notice cancellation, delays and diversions. (Diagrams are here) Allocations 707001 – SG701 707002 – Not allocated 707003 – Not allocated 707004 – Not alloca…

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Their inactivity with SWR would suggest that 707014 & 707019 may be next? (the other 12 707s with SWR have been in use within the last few days)

The picture in the link threw me.. that is no 707 lol...

The thumbnail produced by that link is somewhat inaccurate

Glad that l wasn't the only one!

 

[03_179]

The image is the icon for the whole site.
It's not possible to have a different image per post I'm afraid.

 

[DynamicSpirit]

How many there now?
My spies tell me they look very nice in their new livery.

I've seen a couple (from the outside only, not been in one) and yes, they do look very smart.

 

[Wolfie]

I've seen a couple (from the outside only, not been in one) and yes, they do look very smart.

Just brings into focus even more the scandalous extended neglect of the Networkers.

 

[Goldfish62]

How many there now?
My spies tell me they look very nice in their new livery.

They've scrubbed up nicely inside as well.

SE are using the side displays to their full potential, showing all calling points, updating as the train progresses.

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

Partimespotter report 707001 & 707029 is use with SouthEastern today

SE Class 707 Allocations 16/11/2021

Subject to short notice cancellation, delays and diversions. (Diagrams are here) Allocations 707001 – SG701 707002 – Not allocated 707003 – Not allocated 707004 – Not alloca…

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Their inactivity with SWR would suggest that 707014 & 707019 may be next? (the other 12 707s with SWR have been in use within the last few days)

Is this correct? Or is it a mistake regarding 001/029

 

[03_179]

Is this correct? Or is it a mistake regarding 001/029

001 and 029 are in the system as working SG diagrams

 

[Nicholas Lewis]

The image is the icon for the whole site.
It's not possible to have a different image per post I'm afraid.

Nothing wrong with that image. Lets see how much of this new stuff is still going after 45 years!

 

[ijmad]

I saw a 707 on Southeastern duties in its SWR colour scheme last week. Hadn't realised they were letting them out to run around before the repaints/rewraps.