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Crich Closed following ORR inspection

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Just stumbled across this news story posted on the BBC Derby page earlier today.


A national museum which celebrates Britain's vintage trams has been temporarily shut for safety reasons.
An inspection of the National Tramway Museum in Derbyshire on Tuesday found problems with the depot fan and the museum's main street.
This means the vehicles cannot be moved in or out of the depots and visitors cannot enter these areas.
Mike Galer, manger of the site, said the closure was "deeply regrettable and frustrating for all concerned".

The management team of the site, which operates as Crich Tramway Village, said they were liaising with contractors about a timescale for the structural maintenance.
The safety concerns, found by the Office of Rail and Road inspectors, also mean the exhibition hall, indoor play area, depot and the site's Red Lion pub are inaccessible.

Dr Galer said: "It is fair to say that our maintenance regime suffered badly during the pandemic and has further not been helped by the contractors we have asked to carry out the work having their own difficulties.
"We take safety very seriously at the museum and have taken the decision that the museum will now be closed to all visitors temporarily, which is deeply regrettable and frustrating for all concerned."

This is confirmed by a notice on the web site:


URGENT MESSAGE – WE ARE VERY SORRY TO REPORT THAT WILL BE CLOSED UNTIL AT LEAST FRIDAY 20TH MAY 2022 DUE TO SOME SAFETY CONCERNS AROUND OUR DEPOT FAN.

PLEASE CHECK THIS PAGE AND OUR FACEBOOK, INSTAGRAM AND TWITTER PAGES FOR UP-DATES.


Given that the whole area appears to be an exclusion zone it makes one wonder what is the exact nature of the problem? Presumably electrical?

When I visited last September tram operations were very limited to somewhere south of Wakebridge due to technical problems.

Did some more Googling and discovered this much more informative report. Closure was on the May 17 after a spot inspection.


A popular tourist hotspot in Derbyshire has been closed temporarily due to safety concerns. The Crich Tramway Village, a tram museum in Matlock, has announced it will be closed until at least Friday (May 20).

A spokesman for the attraction said: “We are very sorry, but we are closed until at least Friday 20th May due to a safety issue outside our depots, which means we cannot take our trams out, nor allow visitors to cross this area. Thank you for your understanding in this challenging time.”

A whistleblower, who wished to remain anonymous, contacted Derbyshire Live and claimed that the tramway village had prior knowledge of the safety concerns. They claimed: “They were given a report by someone saying that the infrastructure needed a lot of attention.

They did make some concession to it, in that they said they would run slower through that part of the tramway and run less open-top cars, because the overhead wire might fall down. Someone at the tramway knew and leaked the report to the rail regulator, and they came onto site and condemned their site, so that’s why it’s closed.”

However, Dr Mike Galer, general manager of Crich Tramway Village, dismissed this idea and said that Crich Tramway Village had closed of its own accord. He said: “We take safety seriously at the museum and have numerous systems to identify, track and resolve safety issues.


“The infrastructure, as we call it, formed of the track - referred to as the 'permanent way' professionally - overhead line and direct current supply switch gear is examined and serviced every winter during our closed period and more frequently as required, and the winter of 2021-2022 was no different, with hundreds of person-hours undertaken on the overhead line alone.

“This year, recognising there are some areas we need external professional assistance with, we contracted an external, accredited company to undertake a professional assessment - this must be the report mentioned. A number of issues were identified to be rectified in that report during 2022 and beyond, but we were signed off to operate.

“The company involved have been on site several times to assess and plan the investment and to design the schedule to resolve issues in the weeks and months ahead. During a scheduled visit by the Office of Rail and Road (ORR) - our regulator - this report was obviously discussed.

“We are duty-bound to resolve the issues that have further been identified by the ORR as a matter of urgency. We do not disagree with them. We were not obligated to close, however the areas of concern are in areas which are sensitive and have high customer passage so we have chosen for simplicity to close the whole site temporarily while we concentrate on resolving the critical issues.”
 
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On a similar theme, the Foxfield Railway has temporarily suspended services:
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Our regular 2022 timetable has been temporarily suspended as we undertake engineering works.
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Due to unforeseen engineering works, steam trains at Foxfield will not be running just yet.

On my country walks where paths cross the line I have noticed lots of new anti-trespass things (the ones made of triangular bits of wood), or piles of timber ready to be assembled into the same. Also some new level crossing signs on a very minor private access track. Where Google Streetview (2009) just shows a set of white crosses with a red outline there are now full on blue signs, numbers to call etc.
 

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On my country walks where paths cross the line I have noticed lots of new anti-trespass things (the ones made of triangular bits of wood), or piles of timber ready to be assembled into the same. Also some new level crossing signs on a very minor private access track. Where Google Streetview (2009) just shows a set of white crosses with a red outline there are now full on blue signs, numbers to call etc.
The ORR seems to have pet hate about crossings at the moment. We're having to upgrade two of our foot crossings this year on my heritage line.
 

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Its apparently poor and dangerous condition of two overhead supports just outside the depot, one can be easily repaired while the other will need to be replaced.
 

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Latest thing in the paper says shut for 2 weeks at least, shame as I planned to visit with the kids.
 

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British Trams Online have run an article on the closure, despite the museums statement that the decision to close was there own, the ORR statement actually says they have put a prohibition on access to the museum.


Both are probably true in a "political" sense; Crich probably wasn't required to close entirely, just the affected area (and thus the tramway), but as the tramway is the whole point of it (unlike say Beamish or the similar place near Coalport) it chose not to open the parts it could have opened.
 

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Both are probably true in a "political" sense; Crich probably wasn't required to close entirely, just the affected area (and thus the tramway), but as the tramway is the whole point of it (unlike say Beamish or the similar place near Coalport) it chose not to open the parts it could have opened.
With the locations of the prohibited areas there would have been virtually none of the ’attractions’ accessible to the public beyond the woodland walk and the outdoor play area, so while technically it was the management’s decision to close, in practice the ORR’s prohibition notice made the closure inevitable

The details of the prohibition notices are now listed on the ORR website. https://www.orr.gov.uk/monitoring-r...orcement-action-date/prohibition-notices/2022
 
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I briefly looked at Crich's site. Does anyone know when it will fully reopen, including operating the trams the full distance of the tramway?
 

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Replacement of the two traction poles on the depot fan identified by the ORR is underway, hopefully trams should be running again (and public access restored to the exhibition hall and depot) next month sometime.
 

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Both are probably true in a "political" sense; Crich probably wasn't required to close entirely, just the affected area (and thus the tramway), but as the tramway is the whole point of it (unlike say Beamish or the similar place near Coalport) it chose not to open the parts it could have opened.
The issue which led to the entire site being closed was one of the prohibited areas was on the street outside the pub - this meant that the site would've effectively been limited to the area around Admissions, the Woodland Walk and Wakebridge - as it was a quicker fix, that was undertaken and that area reopened so the site could reopen albeit on a more limited basis, whilst other repairs were undertaken.
 
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