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Stocksbridge appears in the list of received bids, but not in the list of unsuccessful bids. As all bids were assessed on the business case, it can reasonably be inferred that there was not sufficient case. For context, the restoration of services to Kilimarsh and Barrow Hill did receive funding and the timetable implications were looked at.

Regarding the cycleway, there's not really a source for that as it's not really a policy/legal thing but more a 'physically not building anything that can't be easily torn up' thing. A Cycle way has been used in the UK and abroad to maintain rail alignments for strategic use (Cuckoo trail, Forest way in Sussex, for instance)
I’m not sure I can get on board with that logic. I think if it isn’t in the unsuccessful bids list, then it’s not ‘off the table.’

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I’m not sure I can get on board with that logic. I think if it isn’t in the unsuccessful bids list, then it’s not ‘off the table.’
Ok then, I am happy to provide Appendix C of this document: https://assets.publishing.service.g...2/restoring-your-railway-programme-update.pdf

Appendix C: Unsuccessful bids to the Ideas Fund Restoring Your Railway, and in particular the Ideas Fund, generates a very high level of interest. The following schemes submitted applications to the Ideas Fund and were not selected for funding at this time. Feedback was provided for every scheme, and where appropriate alternative sources of potential funding were signposted.
Stocksbridge is listed on page 20 (of the document, 21 of the PDF).

(I know you're not overly fond of my negativity but I have been professionally involved in making a RYR scheme work (In fact 2), and so if something didn't get to RYR funding then the business case would have been well and truly 'aspirational' given what we had to do to make the stuff that did get funding work.)
 

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Ok then, I am happy to provide Appendix C of this document: https://assets.publishing.service.g...2/restoring-your-railway-programme-update.pdf


Stocksbridge is listed on page 20 (of the document, 21 of the PDF).

(I know you're not overly fond of my negativity but I have been professionally involved in making a RYR scheme work (In fact 2), and so if something didn't get to RYR funding then the business case would have been well and truly 'aspirational' given what we had to do to make the stuff that did get funding work.)
That’s fine then :) And I’m glad it clears things up at least.
 

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I've lived in the area all my life, I also worked in the Melting Shop at Stocksbridge on the electric arc furnaces before it shut.

If it wasn't for the VIM Shop at Stocky it would have already shut totally.
There will be tarmac down before 2025 in my personal opinion.
 

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Has the Steel Works actually shut up there. Some say the traffic is coming back and the fleet of wagons has simply gone for modification, and others say production is moving to Aldwarke.... Which one is it.
 

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Has the Steel Works actually shut up there. Some say the traffic is coming back and the fleet of wagons has simply gone for modification, and others say production is moving to Aldwarke.... Which one is it.
No, it’s still working but I think at times it isn’t working at full capacity due to energy prices and there was a time when the workers were on furlough as it was too expensive to operate the plant. I have seen wagons supplying metal by road in the last 12 months as I’ve got stuck behind them on the A61 and followed them to Stocksbridge. However, some of this information might be out of date as I no longer head up there for work. Stocksbridge is being retained unless something has changed as there’s a certain specialist type of equipment there that’s in demand. There have been a number of redundancies though.
 

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A 37 ran up the branch with an inspection saloon on Wednesday. Could be the last working?

Caroline is booked back up on the 18th May , I believe carrying staff looking at passenger possibilities for the line , running as a Chesterfield - Chesterfield.

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Are the Stocksbridge works diesel shunters still up there and in operation for internal use or have they departed now too?
 

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I was on UKRT's trip on the line on 8th April. It struck me that there is not a lot of habitation once you're out of the immediate outskirts of Sheffield, and what does exist is mostly on the opposite side of the valley from the railway. It would indeed be a very poor prospect for a restored passenger service.
 

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I was on UKRT's trip on the line on 8th April. It struck me that there is not a lot of habitation once you're out of the immediate outskirts of Sheffield, and what does exist is mostly on the opposite side of the valley from the railway. It would indeed be a very poor prospect for a restored passenger service.

I’d be really interested to understand the feasibility of a high speed high frequency service to Huddersfield.

To make Sheffield-Penistone-Huddersfield similar to Huddersfield-Dewsbury-Leeds.

It would require a load of work.


And may compare less favourably against a Huddersfield to Sheffield via Horbury with the chord replaced.

What I do know is that Huddersfield and Sheffield aren’t that far apart but aren’t logically connected. Both could do with an economic boost.

And Penistone is kind of up and coming at the moment but could really do with some connectivity.
 

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The footpath beneath the railway bridge near Derek Dooley Way still hasn’t reopened even though the works were supposed to be completed in April.

In addition, over the past few days these chalk markings have appeared on the railway infrastructure beside the pavement. Anyone have any idea what they’re regarding?
 

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I’d be really interested to understand the feasibility of a high speed high frequency service to Huddersfield.
To make Sheffield-Penistone-Huddersfield similar to Huddersfield-Dewsbury-Leeds.
It would require a load of work.

And may compare less favourably against a Huddersfield to Sheffield via Horbury with the chord replaced.
What I do know is that Huddersfield and Sheffield aren’t that far apart but aren’t logically connected. Both could do with an economic boost.
And Penistone is kind of up and coming at the moment but could really do with some connectivity.

The journey time of the old line was superb - 26 minutes Penistone to Sheffield (Midland), including the reverse at Nunnery. Today's journey is 43 minutes - but it connects to Barnsley and Meadowhall. Prior to opening Meadowhall, the best you could say was that this diversion had saved the railway from complete closure in from Denby Dale to Sheffield: South Yorkshire PTE wouldn't support Penistone - Sheffield direct, and only diverting via Barnsley would get their backing. After the Meadowhall centre opened, it's become busy and no-one would question its survival.

Far fewer people go to Sheffield for shopping now, but its connections to the rest of the rail network mean it still matters to go as far as Sheffield - but that's also why Sheffield Victoria would be a waste of time as a target, so I just don't ever see the old line reopening as far as Penistone.
 

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I think its time people accepted that this line is dead. There hasn't been a useful train up there for many months, no freight. I think we all know that the line will not be reopened to passenger as far as Stocksbridge. Its just a pipe dream of enthusiasts, and local MPs trying to boost their green credentials. Its over.
 

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Ok then, I am happy to provide Appendix C of this document: https://assets.publishing.service.g...2/restoring-your-railway-programme-update.pdf


Stocksbridge is listed on page 20 (of the document, 21 of the PDF).

(I know you're not overly fond of my negativity but I have been professionally involved in making a RYR scheme work (In fact 2), and so if something didn't get to RYR funding then the business case would have been well and truly 'aspirational' given what we had to do to make the stuff that did get funding work.)
It was unsuccessful in Ideas Fund 1, but successful progression to SOBC (which has been written and submitted since) in IF3 (line 19 on page 9), name change to Don Valley Line.
 
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