The 360s are available, reliable and nice to be in once they have been changed to 2+2, I would count yourself lucky you are getting them.
CAF DMUs are more or less the only option for new regional diesel stock for EMR, and based on Northern’s experiences with them they’ll be plagued with technical difficulties...
Yeah, Stadlers do not have a long enough range so CAF is the only choice. I doubt ROSCO will be willing to fund many more CAFs as the government wants pure diesels gone.
The main incentive for EMR is quick delivery time and no teething issues. EMR probably won't care of the excess EMUs get scrapped if they were getting new EMUs. EMR needed these quickly to cascade trains to replace the HSTs.
The Northern ex-ScotRail 170s have more than their fair share of issues occurring to them as well, at least from my relatively casual observation - so it's not surprising that EMR's 170s have already started running into problems.
Let’s not forget the 171/2s and /4s that will be joining EMR in the next few years...
Anything will be better than the current interior looking at that video. Standard looks in a better nick than the first class section and the ex EMT 15x fleet still looks better. It will probably be purple seats and and a white/gray paneling.
Yeah I agree - that interior dates back to the early 2000s so no surprise it’s knackered. The first class seats will no doubt be replaced with 2 + 2 standard seating in due course so they most probably don’t care about their condition at the moment.
156 vice 170 today.
Thanks for the info!
Anglia will be interesting, they probably got the new trains with the view that London commuters would cross-subsidies them but we shall wait to see how that works out. EM would have the trade off between new kit and expensive fares or mid-life kit and not so expensive fares.
And the PIS screen on the rear seems a bit screwed up.
Unless it’s Liverpool to Norwich I’m guessing as EMR’s regional routes other than that don’t run more than 3/4 carriages. So it’ll be highly unlikely unless it’s for depot movements.
Probably not given platforms on most Regional lines aren't long enough for 5 car trains I believe.
Very much doubt it as except going up to Liverpool or Worksop the rest of the regional network is mostly 2 car services. There is a service from Derby to Nottingham early in the morning which I think is normally 3 units together which then splits in Nottingham.
Derby to Crewe I don't think you can run more than a 4 car and it's probably the same with the Matlock Branch.
I remember doing a 4 car service between Nottingham and Lincoln about a month ago and at all the intermediate stations it called at it was local door only (and if memory serves the rear unit was locked out when I went to board it at Nottingham).
Would this not carry forwards from Central Trains days?
