European Class 66's to UK

[valentaman]

There will be quite a bit of work to do at Longport before it goes elsewhere, particularly fitting U.K. spec kit (headlights, AWS/TPWS, etc).

I’ve not seen anything giving the previous number of 66797 yet - anyone with that gen, it would be much appreciated by many, I suspect.

PB 513-09 266 036 latterly with HSL working between Germany and Holland

 

[fgwrich]

There will be quite a bit of work to do at Longport before it goes elsewhere, particularly fitting U.K. spec kit (headlights, AWS/TPWS, etc).

I’ve not seen anything giving the previous number of 66797 yet - anyone with that gen, it would be much appreciated by many, I suspect.

That's true, I had wondered if it had received any work while abroad to reduce the load on Longport but possibly not.

Anyway, Here is it's original identity: PB 513-09 / 266 036 - Vintage 2004 and of the same age as 66743-746.

MainlineDiesels.net - EMD 20038513-9

Mainline diesel locomotives

www.mainlinediesels.net

 

[43096]

PB 513-09 266 036 latterly with HSL working between Germany and Holland

Ta very much!

 

[themiller]

Do the 66s have builder’s plates like European built locos and if so where are they fitted? Thanks in advance if anyone can answer.

 

[Bob figgis]

Does anybody know why the movement of this loco ran as a class 6 freight and not as a class 0 for a light engine movement?

 

[ExRes]

Does anybody know why the movement of this loco ran as a class 6 freight and not as a class 0 for a light engine movement?

My guess would be that it's because 797 has not yet been converted for use in the UK, it's therefore a load rather than a loco, I could be completely wrong of course .....

 

[fgwrich]

That's true, I had wondered if it had received any work while abroad to reduce the load on Longport but possibly not.

Anyway, Here is it's original identity: PB 513-09 / 266 036 - Vintage 2004 and of the same age as 66743-746.

MainlineDiesels.net - EMD 20038513-9

Mainline diesel locomotives

www.mainlinediesels.net

Interestingly, from further reading on the Mainline Diesels website, it looks like this batch may be fitted with ECTS already - I wonder if this will be suitable for UK use and therefore the first in their class?

 

[soccermad]

I have details of 66795 and 66796 will post them in a bit

Coming over in the next few weeks

These two locos are 561-05 and 561-03

 

[ExRes]

I have details of 66795 and 66796 will post them in a bit

Coming over in the next few weeks

These two locos are 561-03 and 561-05

Reported on WNXX (subscription section) today that 561-05 is due at Immingham tomorrow, 561-05 will become 66795 and is currently operating in G&W orange livery

 

[fgwrich]

Reported on WNXX (subscription section) today that 561-05 is due at Immingham tomorrow, 561-05 will become 66795 and is currently operating in G&W orange livery

Indeed it is;

HSL 266 111 Engis

– Engis, zaterdag 5 december 2020 – Door de jaren heen kregen we al heel wat mooie, soms eentonige livreien te zien. De Class 66 in België is een serie waarvan er in verschillende kleuren en formaten rondrijden. Crossrail gaf destijds de aftrap met haar wondermooie Mireille. Het Crossrail-rood...

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Has to be an unusual case where the loco is owned by Beacon, operating in Europe in a rivals livery, about to come over here to work for another rival (as in GBRF).

 

[ExRes]

561-05 (66795) has been moved from Immingham to Doncaster Roberts Road as 1339 0M66 by 66778

 

[ExRes]

Hidden by the coverage of 69001, another movement from Longport yesterday was 66794 being hauled to Doncaster Roberts Road

 

[squizzler]

What is the demand pattern driving the repatriation of these locos? I understand goods traffic is flowing more freely than before due to fewer passenger services, this would suggest the same number of locos could do more than previously. In conjugation with the new class 69, does this indicate a step change in goods traffic on the railway after brexit?

 

[palmersears]

GBRf clearly feel there is the potential business available to warrant an expanison of their fleet. I would imagine HS2 construction will generate a good deal of new opportunities for all the FOCs, having locos ready to go to meet the new demand will be an advantage I imagine.

 

[Locma51]

Do the 66s have builder’s plates like European built locos and if so where are they fitted? Thanks in advance if anyone can answer.

EMD 66's have their build number stamped into the frame on the lower edge of the body under the cab, at one end and either side.
After several coats for paint you need to get quite 'close and personnel' to read some of them!
The number is an eight digit batch number followed by 01, 02 etc, which is where the abbreviated number [eg. 513-09 =66797] comes from.
Full info for each loco can be found on MainlinDiesels.net web data. Some of the European 66's have had several owners and many operators with conflicting running numbers,
so build no. and UIC are the best way to id certain locos

 

[43096]

What is the demand pattern driving the repatriation of these locos? I understand goods traffic is flowing more freely than before due to fewer passenger services, this would suggest the same number of locos could do more than previously. In conjugation with the new class 69, does this indicate a step change in goods traffic on the railway after brexit?

Technically those coming over for GBRf are not being repatriated, as they haven’t been here before.

 

[themiller]

EMD 66's have their build number stamped into the frame on the lower edge of the body under the cab, at one end and either side.
After several coats for paint you need to get quite 'close and personnel' to read some of them!
The number is an eight digit batch number followed by 01, 02 etc, which is where the abbreviated number [eg. 513-09 =66797] comes from.
Full info for each loco can be found on MainlinDiesels.net web data. Some of the European 66's have had several owners and many operators with conflicting running numbers,
so build no. and UIC are the best way to id certain locos

Thanks for that, Locma51. I’ve asked drivers and maintainers in the past without receiving a definitive answer.

 

[ExRes]

A base grey 66793 was moved from Doncaster to Eastleigh on wednesday in the consist of 6X01

 

[Roger B]

Has 66796 arrived yet - just wondering if anyone has any news, please?

 

[soccermad]

No it is still in Germany currently

 

[Class 170101]

I guess the Europeans have no use for them or do they just build bigger locomotives?

 

[Roger B]

No it is still in Germany currently

Thanks for the update

 

[ExRes]

66795 on the move yesterday and is now at Toton

 

[The_Train]

66795 on the move yesterday and is now at Toton

Is it going into the paint shop there? Last I heard they were scraping off the Freightliner livery at Roberts Road

 

[rustbucket]

Is it going into the paint shop there? Last I heard they were scraping off the Freightliner livery at Roberts Road

There was a shot on Twitter yesterday I think - obliterated with primer would be more like it!

 

[GB]

What is the demand pattern driving the repatriation of these locos? I understand goods traffic is flowing more freely than before due to fewer passenger services, this would suggest the same number of locos could do more than previously. In conjugation with the new class 69, does this indicate a step change in goods traffic on the railway after brexit?

It could be as simple as just taking work/contracts off another operator. More locos doesn't necessarily mean more new to rail work.

 

[The_Train]

There was a shot on Twitter yesterday I think - obliterated with primer would be more like it!

Haha, yeah it was probably the same shot I saw on Flickr after I had posted about it on here

 

[TRAX]

I guess the Europeans have no use for them or do they just build bigger locomotives?

Mainland Europe renews its locomotive fleet much more often than the UK. At the moment there is quite the influx of EuroDuals for example.

 

[soccermad]

66795 is being painted at Toton

 

[Roger B]

66795 is being painted at Toton

Painted, not vinyled?