ex-Island Line train for sale

[Steddenm]

Anybody want to buy me a present...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1938-Tub...-/164860951539?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286

For sale:

One ex- London Underground 1938 tube stock carriage.

This is car 225. Which in part formed unit 483002.

Built in 1938 in Birmingham by Metro-Cammell, these deep-level tube trains were revolutionary: being the first to have all their motors and equipment under the floor of the train - freeing up valuable space for passengers. These iconic trains have had a hard life, serving the Underground between 1938 and 1988. Then the Isle of Wight from 1989 to January this year.

More recently found on the Isle of Wight running in rakes of 2 carriages as British Rail Class 483 EMU’s. Withdrawn from Island life earlier this year, these trains were the oldest operating units on the rail network in passenger service. Being the longest serving trains in living memory. Of course, if you’re looking at this ad then you probably already know that!

This is honestly a once in a lifetime opportunity - with all of these units going for scrap or preservation, act quickly to secure this piece of transport history.

This carriage is used and was used on the Island as a donor vehicle in later life so will require a full restoration. We can arrange restoration at cost, to suit requirements.

To be clear, this carriage will need extensive work - from a brief inspection it is clear that many interior and exterior fittings need attention and replacing/sourcing - some of which are:

Seat cushions

Light covers

Electrical equipment

Door buttons

Floor vinyl

Some windows

Drivers seat/controls

Flip down seats

Minor interior panels


Items that need work/are missing are not limited to the above list - this is a guide from initial inspection of the vehicle.


This train needs work. But is a very doable project - which we can help facilitate as part of a separate contract.


Fully REACH compliant (all hazardous substances removed).


DIMENSIONS:

Length: 52ft (circa 15.6m)

Width: 8ft 6. (2.6m)

Height: 9ft 5.5. (2.9m)


DELIVERY:

We can arrange delivery as long as access to your chosen location is not too difficult. If bought at full price then delivery will be included in the price. The carriage will be delivered on a low loader. If a crane is needed we can supply for extra cost.

Other delivery arrangements can be made also.

Collection is also possible.

Short and long term storage can also be arranged.

Up to 3 cars available.

 

[221101 Voyager]

Anybody want to buy me a present...

1938 Tube Stock London Underground Carriage EMU Class 483 IOW. Free Delivery | eBay

More recently found on the Isle of Wight running in rakes of 2 carriages as British Rail Class 483 EMU’s. Of course, if you’re looking at this ad then you probably already know that! These iconic trains have had a hard life, serving the Underground between 1938 and 1988.

www.ebay.co.uk

Take a 0 off the end and I’d buy it for sure!

 

[Journeyman]

Anybody want to buy me a present...

1938 Tube Stock London Underground Carriage EMU Class 483 IOW. Free Delivery | eBay

More recently found on the Isle of Wight running in rakes of 2 carriages as British Rail Class 483 EMU’s. Of course, if you’re looking at this ad then you probably already know that! These iconic trains have had a hard life, serving the Underground between 1938 and 1988.

www.ebay.co.uk

That much for something that's practically derelict? It looks like it would fall apart if you looked at it too hard.

 

[Southern Dvr]

Several careless owners?

 

[trebor79]

Got to admire the grift. Someone's paid scrap value and trying to flog it for a premium, and get the restoration gig on top.

 

[Journeyman]

Got to admire the grift. Someone's paid scrap value and trying to flog it for a premium, and get the restoration gig on top.

What would scrap value be?

Given how old it is, it would be interesting to know roughly how much it cost to build in the first place as well.

 

[trebor79]

What would scrap value be?

Given how old it is, it would be interesting to know roughly how much it cost to build in the first place as well.

What's 18te of steel and a bit of brass worth? Scrap steel is worth about £60/te. There'll be some non-ferrous metals too. Maybe a few thousand quid, depending how uch of the valuable stuff's been stripped (most of it by the sounds of it!)

 

[Non Multi]

Several careless owners?

'Barnfind'

 

[45669]

'Barnfind'

Ho-ho!

 

[D365]

Has it sold now, or the auction been taken down?

 

[Gloster]

I thought that nowadays rail vehicles are sold with the restriction that they can only go for scrap unless the original seller had given permission.

 

[Townsend Hook]

I thought that nowadays rail vehicles are sold with the restriction that they can only go for scrap unless the original seller had given permission.

It’s the other way round, it would be up to the seller (in this case SWR) to specify that the vehicle is totally destroyed, which presumably they chose not to do.

 

[Gloster]

It’s the other way round, it would be up to the seller (in this case SWR) to specify that the vehicle is totally destroyed, which presumably they chose not to do.

I meant SWR as the original seller, as they where the ones who disposed of it off the operating railway to whoever currently has it.

 

[packermac]

Has it sold now, or the auction been taken down?

eBay says
This listing was ended by the seller because the item is no longer available. So it could be either.
The last thing he sold according to the system was an LNER/VTEC HST First Class Seat listed at £498.99 but sold for an undisclosed offer price.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

How much would the cost be to transport it from the location currently occupied to the location of its new owner?

 

[torten]

It's more likely to be sold to a organic wine bar, rather than be preserved.

 

[packermac]

How much would the cost be to transport it from the location currently occupied to the location of its new owner?

I assume (hope) any bidder would check as it was a collection auction. But a low loader and two ferry crossings (unless staying on the IOW) will not come cheap. I suspect someone from a loco owning group on the forum may have an idea of such transport costs.

 

[Gloster]

I assume (hope) any bidder would check as it was a collection auction. But a low loader and two ferry crossings (unless staying on the IOW) will not come cheap. I suspect someone from a loco owning group on the forum may have an idea of such transport costs.

I though it was one of the set (or sets) that had, or so I thought, been craned onto the back of a truck and removed from the island. There were still three sets outside St Johns Road depot on Tuesday afternoon, although at least one had moved in the previous few days.

 

[317666]

I assume (hope) any bidder would check as it was a collection auction. But a low loader and two ferry crossings (unless staying on the IOW) will not come cheap. I suspect someone from a loco owning group on the forum may have an idea of such transport costs.

The photos look like they were taken at Booth's of Rotherham - in some of them you can see Class 321 vehicles in the background.

 

[Gloster]

The islandecho is reporting that the current owner has been told that the sets, reported as three vehicles, will be scrapped if not moved within a maximum of five weeks. The details are a bit sketchy, so this is my reading of the article.

 

[JonathanH]

The islandecho is reporting that the current owner has been told that the sets, reported as three vehicles, will be scrapped if not moved within a maximum of five weeks. The details are a bit sketchy, so this is my reading of the article.

AT DEATH’S DOOR! FORMER ISLAND LINE CARRIAGES COULD BE SCRAPPED IF NO BUYER FOUND
Published:
2nd June 2021 18:21
Adam Richardson

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Former London Underground trains that have recently retired from service on the Isle of Wight could be scrapped in the next 5 weeks unless a buyer is found for them, according to their current seller.

Several carriages from the 1938 tube stock – which was removed from the Island’s railway network as part of a multi-million-pound upgrade plan – have been found worthy homes on the Island, including 2 carriages that have been rehomed at the Isle of Wight Steam Railway. Others have been listed on e-Bay, as previously reported by Island Echo.

The latest news regarding the trains comes from the online seller named Marcus, who bought 3 of the 80-year-old carriages for £32,000 following the news of their retirement and listed them on the online auction site. He says that he is in a race against time to find a new home for the historic fleet due to having no space to store them.

The carriages, which are currently being stored at a scrapyard, are facing death row should no buyer come forward. Marcus has revealed that the yard is under instruction to have them destroyed should they remain there beyond a further 5 weeks.

Potential new owners are able to buy and remove the carriages – which had sat idle on the Island for several years and been used for parts – in their current poor state, or have them restored by train specialists recommended by Marcus.

You can find an online listing for the trains here.

Who did anyone think these are worth £32,000 to? With one at the Isle of Wight Railway, another set of 38 stock in the safe care of the London Transport Museum and the units reportedly in the care of the "London Transport Traction Group", these simply aren't important to save. I'd rather the money go to a different preservation project. It looks a bit too far gone for someone to be interested in using it for a static purpose.

https://www.shedno2.co.uk/products/london-underground-1938-stock-ex-isle-of-wight

Here for sale we have an incredibly unique opportunity - the chance to buy an ex-London Underground train.
For sale:
One ex- London Underground 1938 tube stock carriage.
This is car 225. Which in part formed unit 483002.
Built in 1938 in Birmingham by Metro-Cammell, these deep-level tube trains were revolutionary: being the first to have all their motors and equipment under the floor of the train - freeing up valuable space for passengers. These iconic trains have had a hard life, serving the Underground between 1938 and 1988. Then the Isle of Wight from 1989 to January this year.
More recently found on the Isle of Wight running in rakes of 2 carriages as British Rail Class 483 EMU’s. Withdrawn from Island life earlier this year, these trains were the oldest operating units on the rail network in passenger service. Being the longest serving trains in living memory. Of course, if you’re looking at this ad then you probably already know that!
This is honestly a once in a lifetime opportunity - with all of these units going for scrap or preservation, act quickly to secure this piece of transport history.
This carriage is used and was used on the Island as a donor vehicle in later life so will require a full restoration. We can arrange restoration at cost, to suit requirements.
To be clear, this carriage will need extensive work - from a brief inspection it is clear that many interior and exterior fittings need attention and replacing/sourcing - some of which are:
Seat cushions
Light covers
Electrical equipment
Door buttons
Floor vinyl
Some windows
Drivers seat/controls
Flip down seats
Minor interior panels

Items that need work/are missing are not limited to the above list - this is a guide from initial inspection of the vehicle.

This train needs work. But is a very doable project - which we can help facilitate as part of a separate contract.

Fully REACH compliant (all hazardous substances removed).

DIMENSIONS:
Length: 52ft (circa 15.6m)
Width: 8ft 6. (2.6m)
Height: 9ft 5.5. (2.9m)

DELIVERY:
We will deliver, as part of the price as long as access to your chosen location is not too difficult. If its difficult we will still sort it out but the excess delviery will need to be paid. The carriage will be delivered on a low loader. If a crane is needed we can supply for extra cost.
Other delivery arrangements can be made also.
Collection is also possible.
Short and long term storage can also be arranged.

 

[D9006]

Just returned from the island and 004 is currently in a outdoor tearoom awaiting restoration,

 

[KC1]

Isn’t a set going to EOR or is this not the case anymore?

 

[swt_passenger]

Isn’t a set going to EOR or is this not the case anymore?

They’ve gone, (units 006 and 008), but AIUI the actual owner is the aforementioned London Transport Traction Group, but for use on EOR.

It seems to me this story is about someone who thought he’d make a few quid quickly reselling the unwanted units, and surprise surprise they really are unwanted….

 

[Skymonster]

Isn’t a set going to EOR or is this not the case anymore?

006 and 008 are going to the LTTG, with a plan for them to eventually be based at the EOR. One is currently at Sandown awaiting lorry collection, the other is still at Ryde SJR. EOR apparently don't have room for non-operational stock so the latest is both units are likely to be moved to Highgate on the LU initially and will go to EOR after they are restored.

 

[swt_passenger]

006 and 008 are going to the LTTG, with a plan for them to eventually be based at the EOR. One is currently at Sandown awaiting lorry collection, the other is still at Ryde SJR. EOR apparently don't have room for non-operational stock so the latest is both units are likely to be moved to Highgate on the LU initially and will go to EOR after they are restored.

You’d probably expect that as LTTG have publicly stated their transport costs are already covered they’d be using the return trips of subsequent 484 delivery vehicles, that would have to be the obvious way to keep costs down.

 

[Skymonster]

You’d probably expect that as LTTG have publicly stated their transport costs are already covered they’d be using the return trips of subsequent 484 delivery vehicles, that would have to be the obvious way to keep costs down.

I believe that was the plan for the one at Sandown - the lorries also brought in a new unit and took 004 to its new home, but ran out of time to pick up the first of the two for LTTG. My guess is when the other 484 units that are at Eastleigh are moved to the island, the return loads will be the two 483s coming back to the mainland.

 

[KINSEY.]

Anyone Reckon my bid of 10p will be successful?

KinS

 

[fgwrich]

It seems to me this story is about someone who thought he’d make a few quid quickly reselling the unwanted units, and surprise surprise they really are unwanted….

Yes... particularly if the very same person has stripped out the remains of the interior, sold those remains and parts separately through eBay and Facebook Marketplace, then wonders why he can't flog the empty shells of the very same units for far higher than scrap price. £35K they may be, but for that price it'd expect more than a dented, rotten, rolling shell. For example, I could purchase a fully fitted, ex mainline Mk3 for far the grand total of £5K. Semantics aside, He really has only got himself to blame for that one!

 

[Chris125]

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