Formula 1

[PG]

He does pay tax in the UK.

Possibly a more pertinent question is where does Mazepin pay his taxes?

 

[najaB]

Possibly a more pertinent question is where does Mazepin pay his taxes?

More important than that - who (ultimately) pays Mazepin's salary?

 

[LOL The Irony]

More important than that - who (ultimately) pays Mazepin's salary?

Uralkali pay for him to be in the seat, but Haas have made it clear that they could survive without his money.

 

[Rob F]

I know he pays ‘some’ in the UK, but strenuous efforts are made that it is not ‘all’.

 

[kristiang85]

I know he pays ‘some’ in the UK, but strenuous efforts are made that it is not ‘all’.

Indeed. Why else would he go to the effort of having his main address in Monaco, where property prices are insane and his team is based in the UK? It has to be financial benefits.

 

[baz962]

Indeed. Why else would he go to the effort of having his main address in Monaco, where property prices are insane and his team is based in the UK? It has to be financial benefits.

Just that. Or wouldn't he perhaps prefer a different country , arguably better than Stevenage. Perhaps he prefers the weather.

 

[kristiang85]

Just that. Or wouldn't he perhaps prefer a different country , arguably better than Stevenage. Perhaps he prefers the weather.

Well there's plenty of nice warm European countries he could live in, a lot less crowded and more pleasant than Monaco.

 

[baz962]

Well there's plenty of nice warm European countries he could live in, a lot less crowded and more pleasant than Monaco.

It depends. If it's his favourite , who are we to say . It's also one of the safest places in the world and has a high longevity .

 

[GB]

I don't buy into all this "doesn't pay tax" nonsensical argument. Pretty sure if we all had legal ways of paying less tax we would all do it anyway.

My pervious comment was more to do with the fact drivers do what they do to become the best and as such they do it for themselves and their team (and the pay helps I should think). Nothing wrong with that of course but like I said, to say they do it for their country is a bit of a stretch. It's not like some international ball sports that are generally can be country v country.

 

[baz962]

I don't buy into all this "doesn't pay tax" nonsensical argument. Pretty sure if we all had legal ways of paying less tax we would all do it anyway.

My pervious comment was more to do with the fact drivers do what they do to become the best and as such they do it for themselves and their team (and the pay helps I should think). Nothing wrong with that of course but like I said, to say they do it for their country is a bit of a stretch. It's not like some international ball sports that are generally can be country v country.

Of course individual sports people do it for their country , not officially and that's because it doesn't work that way. But amir khan for example or Anthony Joshua represented us in the Olympics. Of course they can't while professional , but they held our flag proud and when a fight is in the UK , they call it a home fight. Hamilton will call Silverstone a home grand Prix and individual football players pretty much all aspire to play for England. The money to play for your country is absolutely nothing compared to the money and sponsorship to play for a domestic club , but they still want to do it. African players go off to play the Africa cup of Nations etc. Most sports people still see themselves as representing their home nation .

 

[najaB]

But amir khan for example or Anthony Joshua represented us in the Olympics.

Specifically, they represented the British Olympic Association. To quote from the Wikipedia article:

The British Olympic Association (BOA) is the National Olympic Committee for the United Kingdom. It is responsible for organising and overseeing the participation of athletes from the Great Britain and Northern Ireland Olympic Team, at both the summer and winter Olympic Games, the Youth Olympic Games, the European Youth Olympic Festivals, and at the European Games.

As far as I am aware, you can't represent the UK at the Olympics without going through the BOA.

 

[baz962]

Specifically, they represented the British Olympic Association. To quote from the Wikipedia article:

As far as I am aware, you can't represent the UK at the Olympics without going through the BOA.

The British Olympic Association , the committee for the UK , so they represented the UK and flew the union jack. They represented the UK . It's semantics at its best.

 

[Geezertronic]

Uralkali pay for him to be in the seat, but Haas have made it clear that they could survive without his money.

With Michael Andretti possibly waiting in the wings, would Gene sell to him? Andretti has tried before to buy Haas as I understand it

 

[najaB]

The British Olympic Association , the committee for the UK , so they represented the UK and flew the union jack. They represented the UK . It's semantics at its best.

The point is that they didn't compete as individuals, they competed in individual sports as part of Team GB.

 

[Bungle73]

The reason a lot of drivers live in Monaco, apart from the obvious tax advantages, is that it is a centrally based location for the job they do. It makes getting to races easier, at least the European ones.

 

[baz962]

The point is that they didn't compete as individuals, they competed in individual sports as part of Team GB.

Which in my mind reinforces my point though. All sportspeople even when they compete individually or domestically are still doing it for their home country. Just not officially. When Lewis talks about winning, he mentions how it's extra special winning Silverstone for the home fans. Deep down in an unofficial capacity, he's not just competing for mercedes, but for the UK and will want to beat other nations as well as other teams. But besides all this , someone's retort to my post was that he doesn't pay tax here. HMRC have him as in the top 5000 payers. He doesn't live here and probably pays more a year than I have in 35 years. If people are going to have an opinion at least base it on fact no.

 

[Ediswan]

The British Olympic Association , the committee for the UK , so they represented the UK and flew the union jack. They represented the UK . It's semantics at its best.

As Great Britain (GBR), under the label of 'Team GB'. You can see how people get confused.

 

[baz962]

As Great Britain (GBR), under the label of 'Team GB'. You can see how people get confused.

I wasn't talking about the difference between team GB as in several countries as opposed to say England as in the football team etc. My point is that even when playing for themselves , snooker , tennis , golf or a team sport , but playing domestically. Most professional sportspeople still are proud and consider themselves representing their home country , just not in an official capacity. Even in domestic football you see the competitiveness between Scottish fans of Celtic and rangers say , giving it to fans of city or United etc. Even though they don't play each other , except occasional European games. Still give it each other during the normal domestic season.

 

[PauloDavesi]

Monaco also has a better climate for training outside during the winter months, and there will be support network their of specialist fitness trainers and gyms etc.

 

[LOL The Irony]

With Michael Andretti possibly waiting in the wings, would Gene sell to him? Andretti has tried before to buy Haas as I understand it

Andretti want their own team and have Renault on board to supply AFAIK.

 

[najaB]

All sportspeople even when they compete individually or domestically are still doing it for their home country. Just not officially.

Ah, you finally get the point! A ban on a country in sport is a ban on official participation of that country, not on its nationals.

 

[baz962]

Ah, you finally get the point! A ban on a country in sport is a ban on official participation of that country, not on its nationals.

No . I already knew what you were saying. But I believe those individuals that make up a national side will still feel unfairly treated. Most won't support Putin , but would still like to represent their country. Yes it's to affect Putin and not designed to hurt the innocent players , but they will still be aggrieved. If they miss out on the world cup and the chance of that on their CV , that affects them even if not intended.

 

[najaB]

But I believe those individuals that make up a national side will still feel unfairly treated.

And I believe that a Ukrainian mother who has to bury her husband/son will also feel unfairly treated.

 

[baz962]

And I believe that a Ukrainian mother who has to bury her husband/son will also feel unfairly treated.

And rightly so , bit of a stretch to blame the footballers though. I'm sure that Ukrainian mother wouldn't. Still let's have the world cup in a nice country like Qatar that , oh hang on . Not long sentenced an ex world cup worker to three years for speaking up on workers rights. What hypocrisy.

 

[LOL The Irony]

Danil Kvyat has been removed from the 1000 miles Sebring entry list.

 

[najaB]

And rightly so , bit of a stretch to blame the footballers though.

They aren't being blamed. They are suffering the consequences of their government's actions. Like any other sanction the intent is to make the general population unhappy so that their leaders start to consider their position.

The footballers can continue to play football, just not while representing their country. The dead Ukrainians cannot.

 

[baz962]

They aren't being blamed. They are suffering the consequences of their government's actions. They can continue to play football, just not while representing their country.

Well I don't agree with it. We ban them with the reason that they are representing Russia and Russia are invading Ukraine. But Russia isn't , it's military is. I see this like tarring everyone with the same brush . Do that in other walks of life and we say it's racist etc.

 

[KashmireHawker]

FIA President Mohammed Ben Sulayem has called a meeting of the World Motorsport Council, with reports suggesting it'll be a vote on whether to ban Russian drivers from competing.
https://twitter.com/Ben_Sulayem/status/1498396219697205256?t=VYva95fZyItA_Ucuk642qg&s=19

And it's conclusion is that drivers from Russia and Belarus, CAN compete in FIA sanctioned series but under the FIA Flag.

FIA announces World Motor Sport Council decisions in relation to the situation in Ukraine

FIA President Mohammed Ben Sulayem today chaired an extraordinary meeting of the World Motor Sport Council (WMSC) to address matters relating to the ongoing situation in Ukraine.

www.fia.com

Drivers, competitors and officials

• No Russian/Belarusian national teams to participate in international/zone competitions (e.g. FIA Motorsport Games), until further notice
• Russian/Belarusian drivers, individual competitors and officials to participate in international/zone competitions only in their neutral capacity and under the “FIA flag”, subject to specific commitment and adherence to the FIA’s principles of peace and political neutrality, until further notice
• No Russian/Belarusian national symbols, colours, flags (uniform, equipment and car)- should be displayed or anthems should be played at international/zone competitions, until further notice

 

[D365]

The reason a lot of drivers live in Monaco, apart from the obvious tax advantages, is that it is a centrally based location for the job they do. It makes getting to races easier, at least the European ones.

But some would have you believe that Hamilton is the first ever British expatriate!

 

[najaB]

But Russia isn't , it's military is. I see this like tarring everyone with the same brush .

So we shouldn't impose sanctions either, after all the average Russian isn't invading Ukraine either.