Norton Bridge
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Rhyl also had the P35 and P36. These were variants of the M35 and M36. I think there were a couple of other P routes at various times in parts of north Wales.
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I agree it's a great resource - if you read my earlier posts I'm hoping to help contribute to it when I'm able to. I'm sorry that I find it less easy to access than the average PDF, but I find it much harder to find timetables under the system the site uses.I think we have to be grateful to @shawmat for what has been made available to all here; it's great reference material, nobody else has done anything like it, and you increasing see it linked to from all sorts of places across the web.
You can go on about IT optimisation for ever - I've made a long term professional career out of it!!
I hadn't, but I don't think there's anything there I'd missed. The bookmarks take me to a too-zoomed out area, so I still have to fiddle around getting to a readable size.Have you read this?
(User guide to timetable world)Timetable World
timetableworld.com
I also worry that having its own format may make it harder to maintain as an archive.
I was wondering if it would *also* be possible to make it available in .pdf form for those who find this easier to access.
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shawmat
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The July 2021 Release of Timetable World has just been completed.
A new feature this time is a map-based index to GB/IE Buses & Trams. The map shows the geographical proximity of various operators and uses colour to signify ownership. (The regular tree-like index is still available, and the Yorkshire and North West area menus have been restructured to deal with growing coverage.) https://timetableworld.com/gb-bus-map or click the image below.
The following timetables were added this time. They include several pre-War/pre-Regulation booklets from the Luton area and several municipals from northern England.
Bluebird Buses, Luton 1932 [Great Britain]
Ideal Motor Coaches, Luton 1928 [Great Britain]
Luton Corporation Tramway 1931 [Great Britain]
Luton Corporation Buses 1932 [Great Britain]
National Omnibus & Transport Co., Watford 1925 [Great Britain]
Halifax Passenger Transport [70th Anniversary Souvenir] Jul 1968 [Great Britain]
Rossendale Transport Oct 2007 [Great Britain]
Nexus (Tyne and Wear) Apr 2005 [Great Britain]
Leeds City Transport Jul 1962 [Great Britain]
Nottingham City Transport Apr 2005 [Great Britain]
Midland Red - Nuneaton and Hinckley - Jan 1970 [Great Britain]
Doncaster Bus timetable & Fare List January 1964 [Great Britain]
Yorkshire Woollen District Transport Co Ltd Jan 1966 [Great Britain]
Preston Corporation bus timetable 1959 [Great Britain]
Accrington Corporation Transport bus timetable May 1971 [Great Britain]
Blackburn Corporation bus timetable Jan 1953 [Great Britain]
Ribble No 1 area (Cumberland, Westmorland and Furness Area) Jun 1953 [Great Britain]
Derby Corporation Bus Timetable Jun 1966 [Great Britain]
Huddersfield Corporation Bus Timetable Booklet Apr 1966 [Great Britain]
South Yorkshire Road Transport 1970s [Great Britain]
West Yorkshire Metro 2006 [Great Britain]
timetableworld.com
A new feature this time is a map-based index to GB/IE Buses & Trams. The map shows the geographical proximity of various operators and uses colour to signify ownership. (The regular tree-like index is still available, and the Yorkshire and North West area menus have been restructured to deal with growing coverage.) https://timetableworld.com/gb-bus-map or click the image below.
The following timetables were added this time. They include several pre-War/pre-Regulation booklets from the Luton area and several municipals from northern England.
Bluebird Buses, Luton 1932 [Great Britain]
Ideal Motor Coaches, Luton 1928 [Great Britain]
Luton Corporation Tramway 1931 [Great Britain]
Luton Corporation Buses 1932 [Great Britain]
National Omnibus & Transport Co., Watford 1925 [Great Britain]
Halifax Passenger Transport [70th Anniversary Souvenir] Jul 1968 [Great Britain]
Rossendale Transport Oct 2007 [Great Britain]
Nexus (Tyne and Wear) Apr 2005 [Great Britain]
Leeds City Transport Jul 1962 [Great Britain]
Nottingham City Transport Apr 2005 [Great Britain]
Midland Red - Nuneaton and Hinckley - Jan 1970 [Great Britain]
Doncaster Bus timetable & Fare List January 1964 [Great Britain]
Yorkshire Woollen District Transport Co Ltd Jan 1966 [Great Britain]
Preston Corporation bus timetable 1959 [Great Britain]
Accrington Corporation Transport bus timetable May 1971 [Great Britain]
Blackburn Corporation bus timetable Jan 1953 [Great Britain]
Ribble No 1 area (Cumberland, Westmorland and Furness Area) Jun 1953 [Great Britain]
Derby Corporation Bus Timetable Jun 1966 [Great Britain]
Huddersfield Corporation Bus Timetable Booklet Apr 1966 [Great Britain]
South Yorkshire Road Transport 1970s [Great Britain]
West Yorkshire Metro 2006 [Great Britain]
Timetable World – Historical transport timetables and maps
timetableworld.com
@shawmat many thanks for this resource.
Particularly interested in rail timetables from around 1970-80 in the Southern Region, or around 1970-91 elsewhere - plus bus timetables from around 1970-91, if any of those are on the horizon (sadly I cannot contribute any myself)
Maybe a long shot but working books from about 1975-91 would also be very interesting.
Particularly interested in rail timetables from around 1970-80 in the Southern Region, or around 1970-91 elsewhere - plus bus timetables from around 1970-91, if any of those are on the horizon (sadly I cannot contribute any myself)
Maybe a long shot but working books from about 1975-91 would also be very interesting.
many of the books are ones people already own. or have perhaps bought out of their own pocket to increase the coverage on TTW
nice scan. Its good that software. Wonder why Microsoft have abandoned it.
Wondering if the timetableworld guy would be interested in adding a new section to the site, a wiki-like system for contributing information about historic (train or bus) timetables?
This could still be interesting to people for periods where no-one has any old timetables they're willing to scan.
Something that would provide information such as (and this is a real example, the info below is more or less correct):
Alder Valley - Year 1984
Hindhead Depot
Services:
211 - Haslemere, High Lane to Woolmer Hill. Irregular, about every two hours. Leyland Nationals, interworked with route 212.
212/3 - Haslemere, High Lane to Alton via Liphook and Whitehill. Irregular, around every 90 minutes. 212 via Oakhanger, 213 via Kingsley. Most 213s only run Liphook-Alton. Interworked with 211; some short journeys interwork with the 268 at Whitehill. Mostly Nationals with VRs at College times.
etc.
This could still be interesting to people for periods where no-one has any old timetables they're willing to scan.
Something that would provide information such as (and this is a real example, the info below is more or less correct):
Alder Valley - Year 1984
Hindhead Depot
Services:
211 - Haslemere, High Lane to Woolmer Hill. Irregular, about every two hours. Leyland Nationals, interworked with route 212.
212/3 - Haslemere, High Lane to Alton via Liphook and Whitehill. Irregular, around every 90 minutes. 212 via Oakhanger, 213 via Kingsley. Most 213s only run Liphook-Alton. Interworked with 211; some short journeys interwork with the 268 at Whitehill. Mostly Nationals with VRs at College times.
etc.
There is an email address on the home page if you scroll down. Best to email and ask him.
OK thanks, will do.
stevenedin
Member
In case anyone is interested I have attached some old timetables from 2017-2018 time for First West Lothian
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stevenedin
Member
I have attached a pre-covid network map for Lothian if anyone is interested
shawmat
Member
The latest release of new bus/tram/trolley content took place over the weekend 26/27 March 2022, adding 82 new timetables and a similar quantity of GB and European railway timetables. There's a list at the bottom of this post.
I'm grateful to several contributors who have supplied timetable books and, in some cases, ready-made scans. If you haven't visited Timetable World recently, there have been two major changes.
Firstly, the website itself has been revamped to simplify the navigation and make it look more visually appealing. We took the opportunity to replace the timetable menus with a new grid-based search tool. With 1,200 objects on the site, it is better suited to a finding your way around a growing range.
Secondly, we've added a shop. All timetables remain free if you access them online, but we now support the purchase of downloadable PDFs for personal use, and you can purchase facsimile timetables via Amazon. The first 50 items are all railway timetables, but we'll add some of the rarer bus timetables shortly.
Timetable World News is an 8-page PDF that explains all this and more (follow the link), and it has many pictures to whet your appetite with.
The new stuff brings the total number of GB bus timetables and maps to 358. The latest additions are:
I'm grateful to several contributors who have supplied timetable books and, in some cases, ready-made scans. If you haven't visited Timetable World recently, there have been two major changes.
Firstly, the website itself has been revamped to simplify the navigation and make it look more visually appealing. We took the opportunity to replace the timetable menus with a new grid-based search tool. With 1,200 objects on the site, it is better suited to a finding your way around a growing range.
Secondly, we've added a shop. All timetables remain free if you access them online, but we now support the purchase of downloadable PDFs for personal use, and you can purchase facsimile timetables via Amazon. The first 50 items are all railway timetables, but we'll add some of the rarer bus timetables shortly.
Timetable World News is an 8-page PDF that explains all this and more (follow the link), and it has many pictures to whet your appetite with.
The new stuff brings the total number of GB bus timetables and maps to 358. The latest additions are:
| gb_region | item_title |
| East | Eastern Counties Eastern Area 1959 |
| East | Eastern Counties Western Area 1958 |
| London | Greenline Coach Guide 1958 |
| London | LT/BR Amersham, Aylesbury, Chesham, Great Missenden 1967 |
| London | LT/BR Bishops Stortford, Harlow, Epping. Loughton 1965 |
| London | LT/BR Bromley, Orpington 1967 |
| London | LT/BR Croydon, Purley, Caterham 1965 |
| London | LT/BR Dorking, Guildford, Leatherhead 1965 |
| London | LT/BR Epsom, Ewell, Sutton, Cheam 1964 |
| London | LT/BR Gravesend 1966 |
| London | LT/BR Hertford, Ware, Cheshunt, Enfield 1968 |
| London | LT/BR High Wycombe, Beaconsfield, Gerrards Cross 1965 |
| London | LT/BR Hitchin, Stevenage, Welwyn, Barnet, Potters Bar 1968 |
| London | LT/BR Luton, Dunstable 1967 |
| London | LT/BR Redhill, Reigate, Crawley, East Grinstead 1967 |
| London | LT/BR Romford, Brentwood, Grays, Tilbury 1968 |
| London | LT/BR St Albans, Harpenden, Borehamwood, Radlett 1967 |
| London | LT/BR Watford, Hemel Hempstead, Berkhamsted, Tring 1967 |
| London | LT/BR Windsor, Slough, Staines, Egham 1967 |
| Midlands | Central Buses Tamworth Glascote Silverlink leaflet S2017-09 |
| Midlands | Coventry Transport 1956-03 |
| Midlands | West Midlands PTE Birmingham Solihull 1979-11 |
| Midlands | West Midlands PTE West Bromwich Area 1974-02 |
| North West | Cumberland 1970-03 |
| North West | Darwen Corporation Bus Timetable 1970 |
| North West | Lancashire United 1962-10 |
| North West | Lancaster, City of 1959 |
| North West | Manchester Corporation 1963-12 |
| North West | Ribble Area 2 (Central Lancashire) 1968-05 |
| North West | Ribble Area 4 (South Lancashire) 1951-10-01 |
| North West | Ribble Area 4 (South Lancashire) 1967-11 |
| North West | Ribble Lancaster & Morecambe 1987 |
| Scotland | Alexander [Fife] 1968 |
| Scotland | Alexander [Northern] 1968 |
| Scotland | Central SMT 1968-06 |
| Scotland | Getting Around in the Highlands + Islands 1 Orkney & Shetland 1968 |
| Scotland | Getting Around in the Highlands + Islands 2 Caithness & Sutherland 1968 |
| Scotland | Getting Around in the Highlands + Islands 3 Inverness & Easter Ross 1968 |
| Scotland | Getting Around in the Highlands + Islands 4 Skye 1968 |
| Scotland | Getting Around in the Highlands + Islands 5 Outer Hebrides 1968 |
| Scotland | Getting Around in the Highlands + Islands 6 Oban, Fort William, Mull 1968 |
| Scotland | Getting Around in the Highlands + Islands 7 South Argyll 1968 |
| Scotland | Highland 1968-06 |
| Scotland | MacBraynes Coach Services 1968 |
| Scotland | Western SMT 1968 |
| South | Brighton 2004-04 |
| South | Southern Vectis 1973-10 [Great Britain] |
| Yorkshire | Bradford City Transport 1955-11 |
| Yorkshire | B & S (J. Bullock) 1946-8 |
| Yorkshire | B & S Yorkshire 1949 |
| Yorkshire | Goodalls ABC Guide Railway & Bus Timetable Leeds Yorkshire Bradford 1946 |
| Yorkshire | Halifax Corporation Bus Timetable, 1952 Q1 |
| Yorkshire | Hebble Motor Services Ltd 1962-05-26 |
| Yorkshire | Leeds City Transport 1947-08 |
| Yorkshire | Leeds City Transport 1965-02-28 |
| Yorkshire | Leeds City Transport 1971-07-01 |
| Yorkshire | Skipton and District Bus Timetable and Railway Guide Colne Otley Harrogate 1962 |
| Yorkshire | United Automobile 1996 3 booklets Ripon, Northallerton, Richmond |
| Yorkshire | United Automobiles Richmond and Catterick areas 1994 |
| Yorkshire | United Automobiles Richmond Ripon Hambleton Area 1987 |
| Yorkshire | United Automobiles Scarborough & Whitby area 1978-05 |
| Yorkshire | West Yorkshire Bus Timetable York Area 1977-03 |
| Yorkshire | West Yorkshire Road Car Co 1941-05 |
| Yorkshire | West Yorkshire Road Car Co 1947-07-13 |
| Yorkshire | West Yorkshire Road Car Co 1950-05 |
| Yorkshire | West Yorkshire Road Car Co 1962 Leeds York Ripon Thirsk |
| Yorkshire | West Yorkshire Road Car Co 1963-05 |
| Yorkshire | West Yorkshire Road Car Co 1970-07 |
| Yorkshire | West Yorkshire Road Car Co 1973 Bradford |
| Yorkshire | West Yorkshire Road Car Co 1974-10-20 Harrogate |
| Yorkshire | West Yorkshire Road Car Co 1980 York |
| Yorkshire | West Yorkshire Road Car Co Harrogate and the Dales Area 1978 |
| Yorkshire | West Yorkshire Road Car Co Leeds area 1973 |
| Yorkshire | West Yorkshire Road Car Co route map est date 67-68 1967 |
| Yorkshire | West Yorkshire Bus & Coach Timetable No 2 Area Bradford & Keighley 1975 |
| Yorkshire | West Yorkshire Bus Timetable No 4 area Yorkshire Dales 1975 |
| Yorkshire | Yorkshire Central Hebble-West Riding-Yorkshire Woollen 1968-07 |
| Yorkshire | Yorkshire Traction 1947-03 |
| Yorkshire | Yorkshire Traction Sundry timetable sheets undated |
| Yorkshire | Yorkshire Woollen District Transport Co Ltd 1971-08 |
| Yorkshire | Yorkshire Woollen District Transport Co Ltd County Motors (Lepton) 1960-06 |
| Yorkshire | Yorkshire Woollen-Hebble 1970-05 |
TheGrandWazoo
Veteran Member
It really is a wonderful repository of information.
There is one that you've uploaded which is very interesting!
Matt only puts timetables on that people lend for scanning, I am afraid.
shawmat
Member
It depends on what we offered. The advantage to collectors of sharing via Timetable World is that we can do the scanning and the digitised timetable becomes a permanent archive object for others to enjoy.
We initially targeted late-1960s, as being the tail end of the Transport Holding Company - and whilst networks were still largely complete. PTEs for the 1970s have since been added. As you say, it depends on what we are offered. There is a lot of Yorkshire and Luton area thanks to three specific contributors, and East Anglia is looking good once we get through more scanning.
Statto
Established Member
Agreed, more late 70s & early 80s timetables would be great if any are available load up ( i'd love to see complete BR GB passenger timetable books from the late 80s, early 90s too, if they are available to load up), although must remember some operators started binning area timetable books from the late 70s.
There is this site, mostly North West, & has some North Wales, timetables, maps, & more.
Thank you and that is exactly the point. There must be millions of documents held by collectors and heritage railways etc etc seen by so very few.
Sharing them in this way is simply the best thing to do.
shawmat
Member
Timetable World is now offering its UK bus timetable collection as downloadable PDF files. The collection has grown over the last three years to exceed 500 representative items from all regions and most eras. Each PDF has been OCR'd to make the text searchable.
A small charge is made for most of the PDFs (£2 - £8) but some are available for free download. The proceeds help to pay for the servers and electricity bills, with some left over (we hope) to buy more timetables.
We started offering railway timetables on this basis a year ago, and it has proved to be successful. So we have high hopes that bus timetables will also be popular. I, for one, will be using them to underpin posts in my local history group on Facebook about the services of yesteryear.
timetableworld.com
To whet your appetite, here's a nice graphic made up from the covers ...
A small charge is made for most of the PDFs (£2 - £8) but some are available for free download. The proceeds help to pay for the servers and electricity bills, with some left over (we hope) to buy more timetables.
We started offering railway timetables on this basis a year ago, and it has proved to be successful. So we have high hopes that bus timetables will also be popular. I, for one, will be using them to underpin posts in my local history group on Facebook about the services of yesteryear.
UK Bus Timetables – Timetable World
timetableworld.com
To whet your appetite, here's a nice graphic made up from the covers ...