HST coach disposals

[Jamesrob637]

Apparently it was this set:

All ex EMR Mk3s, some 1st class.

Some amazingly long trains in that video

 

[spotify95]

Specifically, it was the three vehicles of NL03 that have not been preserved, plus all of NL04 except the TGS.

Thank you for the information. How many sets are still in storage (i.e. not been scrapped or preserved yet)? I know there was a diagram or list somewhere but this is of course not up to date anymore now that the Newport runs have re-commenced.

 

[spotify95]

Probable Mk3 scrap move Thursday. Any idea which coaches?

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According to this post:

Transfer of LNER HST 125s to East Midlands Railway (EMR)

That would trash the lucrative first class market on the route...:lol: Out of all the customers on the route, how many will be travelling Kettering to Corby? And out of those, how many will be travelling via 1st class? As mentioned before, the best way of resolving the HST issue (if there is...

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The ex GC coaches (which EMR had briefly) are stored at Ely so it could be those.
Or it could be MK3s from another operator, which are/were still stored at Ely.

Hopefully someone can try and work out which coaches they are before the inevitable happens.

 

[DB]

According to this post:

Transfer of LNER HST 125s to East Midlands Railway (EMR)

That would trash the lucrative first class market on the route...:lol: Out of all the customers on the route, how many will be travelling Kettering to Corby? And out of those, how many will be travelling via 1st class? As mentioned before, the best way of resolving the HST issue (if there is...

www.railforums.co.uk

The ex GC coaches (which EMR had briefly) are stored at Ely so it could be those.
Or it could be MK3s from another operator, which are/were still stored at Ely.

Hopefully someone can try and work out which coaches they are before the inevitable happens.

Ely is where Angel Trains stores most of their off-lease HST stock, so could be anything of what remains there - there are certainly ex-LNER sets still there. Not sure what, if anything, remains of their ex-GWR fleet.

 

[ChilternTurbo]

Apologies if I've missed this but is the blue and grey 'farewell' LNER set still at Ely?

 

[43096]

Apologies if I've missed this but is the blue and grey 'farewell' LNER set still at Ely?

Yes it is.

 

[ChilternTurbo]

Thank you. It'll be interesting to see what happens to it...

 

[spotify95]

Some amazingly long trains in that video

The whole point of that video was to post the MK3s that were sent to Newpoer SIMs, not the other trains that also happened to be in that video

Thank you. It'll be interesting to see what happens to it...

Yeah, my train of thoughts exactly. Hopefully they won't be fed to SIMs at Newport, or anywhere else like that. I'm surprised that the 125 Group haven't gone for that set, given how it would be in some sort of iconic Intercity livery.

 

[43096]

Yeah, my train of thoughts exactly. Hopefully they won't be fed to SIMs at Newport, or anywhere else like that. I'm surprised that the 125 Group haven't gone for that set, given how it would be in some sort of iconic Intercity livery.

125 Group have gone for the vehicles available to them in best mechanical condition. The ex-LNER stuff is in horrific condition as we know from the problems and cost EMR have had getting theirs into service - there is far more to it than the colour of the external pigment.

To be brutally honest the best place for that set, along with the other ex-LNER trailers at Ely, is into the crusher at Newport.

 

[adc82140]

In addition, the ex EMR sets that the 125 group have got are much closer to the original interiors. Slapping a coat of paint on is much easier than a complete rebuild inside.

 

[43096]

In addition, the ex EMR sets that the 125 group have got are much closer to the original interiors. Slapping a coat of paint on is much easier than a complete rebuild inside.

You’ve a former Managing Director of EMT to thank for that. When asked why EMT weren’t putting new seats in the reply was along the lines of why would we put something less comfortable in?

 

[adc82140]

You’ve a former Managing Director of EMT to thank for that. When asked why EMT weren’t putting new seats in the reply was along the lines of why would we put something less comfortable in?

The 125 Group have also got a former GWR TGS. I wonder if they'll leave it as is to show what you could have won.

 

[DB]

The 125 Group have also got a former GWR TGS. I wonder if they'll leave it as is to show what you could have won.

They also have an extra ex EMT trailer for spare parts - perhaps the interior may be transplanted into the TGS to give a matching set? (43096 may well know whether this is intended)

 

[43 302]

They also have an extra ex EMT trailer for spare parts - perhaps the interior may be transplanted into the TGS to give a matching set? (43096 may well know whether this is intended)

Should be keeping the current seats.

 

[43096]

Should be keeping the current seats.

More important things to do than changing seats. Putting a Valenta and Marston into 43044 being chief amongst them!

 

[DB]

More important things to do than changing seats. Putting a Valenta and Marston into 43044 being chief amongst them!

I'm sure that is a higher priority - just wondered about the seats as from what I understand the mountings aren't changed so it's relatively straightforward to swap them back.

 

[Jamesrob637]

According to this post:

Transfer of LNER HST 125s to East Midlands Railway (EMR)

That would trash the lucrative first class market on the route...:lol: Out of all the customers on the route, how many will be travelling Kettering to Corby? And out of those, how many will be travelling via 1st class? As mentioned before, the best way of resolving the HST issue (if there is...

www.railforums.co.uk

The ex GC coaches (which EMR had briefly) are stored at Ely so it could be those.
Or it could be MK3s from another operator, which are/were still stored at Ely.

Hopefully someone can try and work out which coaches they are before the inevitable happens.

The move looks to have been cancelled.

 

[Mat17]

You could also try Arlington Fleet Services in Eastleigh, they are scrapping some HST, 442 and 317s there. Some seats have been recovered and put in to a prototype HST mk3 that is being preserved so they may well have some for sale

Just a thought, but perhaps contacting the group preserving the prototype HST might be fruitful, maybe they have a spare seat or can acquire an extra one maybe? A bit of a long shot perhaps... But I figure they'll be trying to get spares as well?

 

[DB]

Just a thought, but perhaps contacting the group preserving the prototype HST might be fruitful, maybe they have a spare seat or can acquire an extra one maybe? A bit of a long shot perhaps...

Those are what are normally regarded as standard class seats (2+2) - and they probably don't have any spare anyway.

 

[fgwrich]

Just a thought, but perhaps contacting the group preserving the prototype HST might be fruitful, maybe they have a spare seat or can acquire an extra one maybe? A bit of a long shot perhaps... But I figure they'll be trying to get spares as well?

Those are what are normally regarded as standard class seats (2+2) - and they probably don't have any spare anyway.

They wont have any spares - The coach is owned independently of the group (By a small group of individuals) and although it is having IC70s fitted, these are only coming in few and far between from the 317/5s being scrapped there.

(Ironically the Standard Class IC70 seat was used as a First Class seat in the early 317s)

 

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[spotify95]

Thanks for the update. Obviously something is making its final journey today. Anyone know the coaches involved and the previous operator?

 

[Spirit555]

Thanks for the update. Obviously something is making its final journey today. Anyone know the coaches involved and the previous operator?

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[TrainTrackJack]

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Mark

Should be LNER?
Not too sure as not many ex LNER Coaches remain

 

[43096]

Should be LNER?
Not too sure as not many ex LNER Coaches remain

Porterbrook stock previously used by EMT/EMR, formerly set NL08.

 

[TrainTrackJack]

Porterbrook stock previously used by EMT/EMR.

Ah right. thanks.
Will be coming through Abbotswood shortly so i might venture out to see it.

 

[Spirit555]

Ah right. thanks.

Ex EMR set NL08.

Mark

 

[spotify95]

Porterbrook stock previously used by EMT/EMR, formerly set NL08.

Thanks for letting me know. I know they've been clearing out a lot of EMR stock recently as NL03 and NL04 have both been scrapped recently.
Shame that they've been scrapped but there's nowhere else for them to go, so scrapping them is/was inevitable.

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[DB]

Thanks for letting me know. I know they've been clearing out a lot of EMR stock recently as NL03 and NL04 have both been scrapped recently.
Shame that they've been scrapped but there's nowhere else for them to go, so scrapping them is/was inevitable.

Most of NL03 went to the 125 group (minus three coaches)

 

[spotify95]

Most of NL03 went to the 125 group (minus three coaches)

Thanks, I was referring to the three coaches that were bolted onto the end of NL04 and were scrapped recently (about a week ago). At least some are going to preservation, rather than the crushers (it's a shame Newport won't take parts out of the coaches as the EMR sets have the more desirable/collectable IC70 seats).
If I worked at any of these scrap yards I know I'd be taking every usable part out before the set hit the crusher.