If you fail on just MMI

[Lemtrac8]

Hi all, anyone know if you fail on just the MMI, can you take the parts you've passed to a different TOC and just do the MMI again through them?

 

[Comfy]

It depends on the toc. Some insist you do them all again but I think once you've passed the others then you shouldn't have any bother passing them again.

 

[Leospinks]

sorry to hear that you failed the mmi did they give you any feedback as to why you failed it.. From what I've read in these forums so far is that you'd have to apply again after 6 months but you'd go through straight to the mmi as you've passed all the other tests. All the tests are logged nationally so whichever toc u try for will know you've passed all the other tests..

 

[Lemtrac8]

Don't know for sure. But was all over the place during MMI. Passed everything else. Waiting to hear about MMI result

 

[Stigy]

90% of the time you will just be asked to retake the parts of the psychometric process you failed, so in your case the MMI. As has been said though, there have been instances of companies insisting you retake them all. It’s a risky business, so I guess if asked retake all of them again, it’s worth weighing up the pros and cons, because I’d you then fail, you’re back to square one, although you should still only be one life down unless you fail the MMI again.

 

[baz962]

90% of the time you will just be asked to retake the parts of the psychometric process you failed, so in your case the MMI. As has been said though, there have been instances of companies insisting you retake them all. It’s a risky business, so I guess if asked retake all of them again, it’s worth weighing up the pros and cons, because I’d you then fail, you’re back to square one, although you should still only be one life down unless you fail the MMI again.

If the op re took the psychometrics and failed , surely that's it. If they failed the mmi this time , that's a life with one remaining.

 

[Stigy]

If the op re took the psychometrics and failed , surely that's it. If they failed the mmi this time , that's a life with one remaining.

If the OP has taken and failed the MMI, that’s one life lost, but my understanding is that there’s two remaining lives for the rest of the assessments? I guess because most TOCs don’t make you resist them all, it never really raises the question?

If they had to retake the rest of the assessments and failed (but didn’t retake the MMI), I understood it to basically be on an even keel with the MMI then. I’d like to say that the OPC will no doubt be able to give a definitive answer, but even that seems to vary depending on who you speak to.

 

[Coach Carter]

You have to pass the whole process to not lose a life, the mmi isn’t separate.

 

[Lemtrac8]

Thanks for the replies. Just weighing options if it were to be bad news.

 

[Newcastle1221]

Thanks for the replies. Just weighing options if it were to be bad news.

Which TOC did you apply for?

 

[Class2ldn]

Doesn't matter which parts you fail on it counts a 1 life gone.
Some tocs may let you retake just the mmi but if they don't and you redo them and then fail any part again that is your 2 lives done

 

[FastTrax]

I personally would not apply if I had to redo the tests again as its a risky job... (i don't agree when ppl say u passed once u will pass again, why take risk) also would only apply if I m well prepared for MMI and DMI. (Mmi u already know what they ask n DMi u can lot of details from this forum) good neluck next time. This all due to two lives rule. It makes ppl nervous for no reason n if u r not in the right frame of mind u r out of the frame all together lol

 

[Leemini]

What do they ask in the mmi

 

[Bucephalus]

What do they ask in the mmi

Multimodal Interview (MMI)

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There are some more threads on the above too. From my experience with psychometrics, the MMI was the least of my worries - not that I got that far....

 

[T-Karmel]

Multimodal Interview (MMI)

Hi all, I've recently passed a structured interview with manager at SWT for a drivers position. The next stage is an MMI. Now, doing research on this forum and elsewhere gives no clear explanation of how a MMI is conducted or the structure of this type of interview. What little is...

www.railforums.co.uk

There are some more threads on the above too. From my experience with psychometrics, the MMI was the least of my worries - not that I got that far....

During my OPC I've witnessed an ex-driver (don't know reasons behind why he lost his licence years ago) doing well on all tests and failing just the MMI.

I'd say - practice, practice, practice on ALL tests and MMI evenly (and DMI too, but that usually next step, not on the same day). And do it a lot.

 

[LSWR Cavalier]

What is the justification for the two lives rule?

 

[43066]

What is the justification for the two lives rule?

They’re supposed to be a test of innate aptitude. Giving someone multiple attempts would enable them to improve through practice, thus defeating the object.