Well, yes and no.I would like to travel the Weymouth and Heart of Wessex lines. Given that north of Yeovil PM up to Bedwyn is outside the Network railcard zone, can I travel Weymouth - Yeovil Pen Mill - self transfer - Yeovil Junction - Waterloo?
Unless of course, you buy an advance!This has come up a couple of times, and SWT/SWR seemed to have painted themselves into a corner, with the result that when they run their summer Saturday through service from Waterloo to Weymouth by the above route, you cannot get a fare for it...
Sure, but it’s not ideal is it...Unless of course, you buy an advance!
Direct trains are always valid.This has come up a couple of times, and SWT/SWR seemed to have painted themselves into a corner, with the result that when they run their summer Saturday through service from Waterloo to Weymouth by the above route, you cannot get a fare for it...
Except where the tickets available are restricted by "Route: X" and none of the routes go the way of the direct train...Direct trains are always valid.
Except where the tickets available are restricted by "Route: X" and none of the routes go the way of the direct train...
The through train rule does exist however it doesn't trump a route restriction.AFAIK the "Through train rule" still exists. Have I missed something?
https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/railuk-fares-ticketing-guide-section-3-routeing.70716/
This doesn't help the OP who wants to self-transfer at Yeovil, not wait for the next through train. I would certainly take the Peckham Rye option (or similar)!
The only fares from London Terminals are routed either via Westbury, or via Southampton, as post #2 The direct train does not go through either.AFAIK the "Through train rule" still exists. Have I missed something?
https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/railuk-fares-ticketing-guide-section-3-routeing.70716/
This doesn't help the OP who wants to self-transfer at Yeovil, not wait for the next through train. I would certainly take the Peckham Rye option (or similar)!
Thanks. Is that spelt out anywhere? If so, does our Guide need updating?The through train rule does exist however it doesn't trump a route restriction.
Thanks. Is that spelt out anywhere? If so, does our Guide need updating?
which doesn't spell out that it is to be read in the light of the previous section.... a through train is always considered a permitted route...
It’s the “cross London” marker, and allows for an appropriate journey on LU, normally to join two national rail legs.Hi, post 2, does the + plus sign before " + any permitted " mean something ?. Beginner at ticketing.
This doesn't directly answer to your question, but you might want to look at advances London to Weymouth via bath.you night be pleasantly surprisedI would like to travel the Weymouth and Heart of Wessex lines. Given that north of Yeovil PM up to Bedwyn is outside the Network railcard zone, can I travel Weymouth - Yeovil Pen Mill - self transfer - Yeovil Junction - Waterloo?
LU or DLRIt’s the “cross London” marker, and allows for an appropriate journey on LU, normally to join two national rail legs.
I was keeping it simple, but yes you’re right.LU or DLR
If the through train rule overode the route everybody would use Southern (route three bridges) tickets between Southampton Central and Waterloo or SWR (route Honiton) tickets between Exeter St Davids and Paddington.Thanks. Is that spelt out anywhere? If so, does our Guide need updating?
When I click on the link, it takes me to a login screen. Is access to the link restricted?Says in the guide on here (section 3.1.2):
"Where the route is VIA a station(s) your journey must pass through this station although the train doesn't need to stop there. Where multiple stations are separated with a hyphen, you must pass through all of them. Where they are separated by a slash, you need only pass through one of them. In addition, see Tickets routed via stations that are not on a permitted route."
It shouldn't be but the link appears to be broken. If you go the Fares & Ticketing Guide you can scroll down the page to find the relevant item (3.6).When I click on the link, it takes me to a login screen. Is access to the link restricted?
The Fares & Ticketing Guide subforum is no longer open to normal members.It shouldn't be but the link appears to be broken. If you go the Fares & Ticketing Guide you can scroll down the page to find the relevant item (3.6).
Wouldn't a return to Maiden Newton be valid via either route?AFAIK the "Through train rule" still exists. Have I missed something?
https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/railuk-fares-ticketing-guide-section-3-routeing.70716/
This doesn't help the OP who wants to self-transfer at Yeovil, not wait for the next through train. I would certainly take the Peckham Rye option (or similar)!
If you can supply a particular itinerary I can check if it's valid or not.Wouldn't a return to Maiden Newton be valid via either route?
Wouldn't a return to Maiden Newton be valid via either route?
The routes you refer to are the mapped routes entirely avoiding London. However, as per page F9 of the Routeing Guide In Detail instructions, you will find that there is also an entry "LONDON" in the Yellow Pages.Just a beginner on railway fares,so go easy.
Looking up Peckham Rye shows EL + SW and SC + SW
EL is east london line to clapham junction, and SW is direct via southampton to Weymouth, which is logical to the average person.
SC takes you to the sussex coast.
No mention of Salisbury
Looking on Salisbury gives LE + EL
Penzance to London via Yeovil and Salisbury.
So how can a passenger go Peckham via Yeovil if it's not show on as a permitted route ????