I see what you did there.backlash
I see what you did there.backlash
Well, it wasn't intensional, but if you like it that's fine!I see what you did there.
I was always under the impression that the /1s with 3+2 would replace 350/2s on WCML stoppers with the remaining 350s working Euston - Brum and West Mids local services.That seemed to be the suggestion further up thread, but it doesn't make sense to me*.
So the 760/1s, with 3+2 seating, will be used on the Euston -Birmingham service fast services. With the disposal of the 350/2s, all the 350s remaining will have 2+2 seating, and one can deduce that they will be used on the other services.
And that means that longer distance passengers, Euston - Birmingham, will have 3+2 seating, and the Milton Keynes and Tring to Euston ones, 2+2.
At present, the New St - Walsall and Coventry/International - Wolverhampton are also 350s, so those services, too, if they remain 350 will be 2+2.
*Not unusual; railway management seems to live on some parallel planet with curious logic.
As much as I dislike the appearance of gangways (and at 110mph they must cost quite a lot in extra air resistance), I can't deny, that concept design looks pretty damn good.Well, it wasn't intensional, but if you like it that's fine!
Just found this new artists impression of the LNWR 730's
Also, just seen this a bout a new depot.
New Electric Train Depot Development | London Northwestern Railway
www.londonnorthwesternrailway.co.uk
As much as I dislike the appearance of gangways (and at 110mph they must cost quite a lot in extra air resistance), I can't deny, that concept design looks pretty damn good.
I actually quite like the LNWR livery, as it is. It's just a shame that I preferred the one that came before it. Maybe at some point someone will photoshop LM livery onto a 730Even the livery suits them - it's a bit crowded on the 20m units.
Does the depot news mean that Bletchley CS will close, as surely once the /2s are gone everything will fit into Kings Heath?
They do like rather good.As much as I dislike the appearance of gangways (and at 110mph they must cost quite a lot in extra air resistance), I can't deny, that concept design looks pretty damn good.
Not necessarily, I think they will still use BLY CS as a place to park up 350's and some 730s because surely all 350s (by that time there will still be /1, /3, /4 = 50 units) won't fit in to King's Heath alone, right?Even the livery suits them - it's a bit crowded on the 20m units.
Does the depot news mean that Bletchley CS will close, as surely once the /2s are gone everything Siemens will fit into Kings Heath?
Our all-new electric class 730 trains are currently being manufactured in Derby by Bombardier. We are hoping that these will start to come into service during 2022.
Same here!I actually quite like the LNWR livery, as it is. It's just a shame that I preferred the one that came before it. Maybe at some point someone will photoshop LM livery onto a 730
Wouldn't be easy, no thanks to the fact they're coming out of the factory in a rather complex colour scheme.I actually quite like the LNWR livery, as it is. It's just a shame that I preferred the one that came before it. Maybe at some point someone will photoshop LM livery onto a 730
They look nice, although most things look nice in LM's livery. Would still prefer a 6 car 350 though.Wouldn't be easy, no thanks to the fact they're coming out of the factory in a rather complex colour scheme.
I'll give it a go for you.
Here it is!
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A solid effort, good work! I think I still prefer that for the 730s, though the black gangway connector helps.Wouldn't be easy, no thanks to the fact they're coming out of the factory in a rather complex colour scheme.
I'll give it a go for you.
Here it is!
View attachment 86386
Thank you, the use you suggest for the /1s would be entirely logical, but there was a very early post on this thread, quoting a magazine article (presumably itself based on a press release), that said that the /1s were for Euston - Birmingham services.I was always under the impression that the /1s with 3+2 would replace 350/2s on WCML stoppers with the remaining 350s working Euston - Brum and West Mids local services.
I had it in my head that's what the 350/1s would move to doing, not the 730/1s but it was a long time ago, so don't take my word for it.Thank you, the use you suggest for the /1s would be entirely logical, but there was a very early post on this thread, quoting a magazine article (presumably itself based on a press release), that said that the /1s were for Euston - Birmingham services.
Thank you, the use you suggest for the /1s would be entirely logical, but there was a very early post on this thread, quoting a magazine article (presumably itself based on a press release), that said that the /1s were for Euston - Birmingham services.
Remember that Euston-Brum services aren't all fast, some of them are semifasts on which 350/2s would normally be found.
Oh yeah, it's one of those few areas where you can actually justify taking the slow train on business because unless you earn big bucks, the fare saving is still greater than the time lost.Indeed; the semi-fasts, I think, just run through for operational convenience.
In the current TT., the xx.05 semi fast from Northampton arrives Euston at x1.23. If you wait until xx.25 and change at MKC you get there 3 minutes earlier, at x1.20, so the semi fast is pointless for Northampton - Euston.
Almost incredibly, it's only 1 minute faster than catching the xx.38 Birmingham, changing at Rugby arr. x1.57!
Added by edit; and there's not even a fares advantage in using the slow train, tomorrow, a single to Euston on the 11.05 is £27, on the 11.25 and Avanti, it's a tenner!
Oh yeah, it's one of those few areas where you can actually justify taking the slow train on business because unless you earn big bucks, the fare saving is still greater than the time lost.
They're EMUs, that's the prefix used for EMUs now...Why are these numbered in the 7xx class??
Why are these numbered in the 7xx class??
Yeah me neither, but I have definitely seen tickets that cheap in the past, I think.I can't see a tenner from Northampton to London tomorrow and I've tried Trainline and TPE app?
Yeah me neither, but I have definitely seen tickets that cheap in the past, I think.
91119 actually wore that IC livery though. 730s weren’t around in LM days.LNWR livery looks great on these only because there was no London Midland livery on them!
LM livery suited the 350s more. Maybe a 730 will be painted in London Midland livery in the 2040s as a retro. Kind of like 91119 reminiscing on the late 80s and 90s.
But it's the other way round!Oh yeah, it's one of those few areas where you can actually justify taking the slow train on business because unless you earn big bucks, the fare saving is still greater than the time lost.
I can't see a tenner from Northampton to London tomorrow and I've tried Trainline and TPE app?