McGill's Buses - Renfrewshire & Inverclyde

[Observer]

As per the latest Notices and Proceedings, it looks like the tour has been dropped, see the very end of this PDF.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1082409/np_2389_13_June_2022.pdf

Application Withdrawn
PM1036390/33 LOCH LOMOND BUS SERVICES LTD,
99 EARNHILL ROAD, LARKFIELD INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, GREENOCK, PA16 0EQ

From: George Square, Glasgow
To: George Square, Glasgow
Via:
Name or No.: G1 Discover Glasgow
Service type: Limited Stop
Effective date: 01 July 2022
End date: 26 September 2022
Other details: Monday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday & Sunday

 

[ClydeCoaster]

Wonder if they haven't managed to recruit enough people to run it?

 

[markymark2000]

Why did they put it on that licence rather than the McGills licence?

Could the registration perhaps reappear on the normal McGills O Licence?

 

[Clydeflyer]

Nice to see an open topper on a regular service in Scotland.

Looks like 547 is now that... operated since Monday by G6906 (X23 BUS) and G2853 (BF60 UUH). The latter has no vinyls, just plain red.

 

[Christmas]

I've been on the 904 Sunday service and it has always been busy. It's a shame that they remove it completely every September. Perhaps a one bus working during the winter months between Largs and Johnstone, maybe using a minibus, could be worthwhile. It would still give people connections at Johnstone and could be 2 hourly. McGill's should capitalise on Stagecoach abandoning the Garnock Valley.

 

[Glasgowbusguy]

Does anyone know how much an adult single is between Glasgow (Buchanan or Braehead) and Wemyss Way?

 

[gnolife]

Does anyone know how much an adult single is between Glasgow (Buchanan or Braehead) and Wemyss Way?

You'll get sold a GoZone6 Day, costing £7.45 (adult)

 

[Ricky Kane]

Why is Coatbridge depot closing?

 

[Stan Drews]

Why is Coatbridge depot closing.

Loss of SPT tenders.

 

[Scotrail88]

Looks like some cancellations appearing
545H which is currently suspended but 60 & 547 both also cancelled.
I wonder if any more or further reductions are about to appear.

 

[Stan Drews]

Looks like some cancellations appearing
545H which is currently suspended but 60 & 547 both also cancelled.
Wander if any more or further reductions about to appear.

All local bus service registrations are required to revert to their March 2020 position by 1st September, unless they have been varied/cancelled using the regular 70 day notice period, during the pandemic.
Therefore, if operators wish to continue running timetables that were introduced using the reduced notification periods (that have been permitted during the pandemic), they have to formally register them using the full notice period. For that to take place prior to 1st September, the most likely start dates will be Sun/Mon 28/29 Aug, and those registrations will be submitted to the Office of the Traffic Commissioner no later than this Sunday/Monday.

See above comment from the First Glasgow thread. I’d imagine this process will be occurring at McGill’s too.

 

[Scotrail88]

See above comment from the First Glasgow thread. I’d imagine this process will be occurring at McGill’s too.

I expect the same but the 60 cancellation is the surprise
547 was due to run longer into Sept so looks like additional cancellations

 

[Stan Drews]

I expect the same but the 60 cancellation is the surprise
547 was due to run longer into Sept so looks like additional cancellations

The cancellations are usually processed first by the Traffic Area Office (TAO) staff - as there is no payment required, so I’d wait a few more working days, for the TAO plumber to work their magic, and get everything flushed through the pipe work!

 

[kingston_toon]

The 547 surely isn't going? Maybe it's worth running an open topper on, maybe not, but without it we're saying 2bph is enough from Greenock to Gourock Pierhead? That'll be the worst frequency on this link in my lifetime!

 

[380gk]

I see a lot of timetable changes are in for the end of August in McGills land. Does anyone know what they entail? Is it just trimming service frequencies back? Seen the 547 is due to be withdrawn.

 

[GusB]

I see a lot of timetable changes are in for the end of August in McGills land. Does anyone know what they entail? Is it just trimming service frequencies back? Seen the 547 is due to be withdrawn.

Make sure that you post your sources, please. Thanks

 

[380gk]

Make sure that you post your sources, please. Thanks

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1093477/np_2395_25_July_2022.pdf

page 12-13 in the above link.

 

[GusB]

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1093477/np_2395_25_July_2022.pdf

page 12-13 in the above link.

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[380gk]

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Thanks! Noted for next time

 

[Dfatcontroller]

Three more Volvo 9700s have joined the fleet for Flixbus.

0613 - SJ22HBA
0614 - SJ22HBB - https://flic.kr/p/2nD4NiG
0615 - SJ22HBC

Tourismo 0640 - BV71HYL has gained a Saltire rear for the new Glasgow - Aberdeen service.

Front OS - https://flic.kr/p/2nD4Tmz
Rear NS - https://flic.kr/p/2nD4Tng
Front NS - https://flic.kr/p/2nD9Roq
Rear OS - https://flic.kr/p/2nD4TmK

 

[Stan Drews]

Three more Volvo 9700s have joined the fleet for Flixbus.

0613 - SJ22HBA
0614 - SJ22HBB - https://flic.kr/p/2nD4NiG
0615 - SJ22HBC

Tourismo 0637 - BV71HYL has gained a Saltire rear for the new Glasgow - Aberdeen service.

Front OS - https://flic.kr/p/2nD4Tmz
Rear NS - https://flic.kr/p/2nD4Tng
Front NS - https://flic.kr/p/2nD9Roq
Rear OS - https://flic.kr/p/2nD4TmK

The Saltire’d Tourismo is fleet number 0640.
0637 is the last of the six older Tourismo’s in Fly livery.

 

[Dfatcontroller]

The Saltire’d Tourismo is fleet number 0640.
0637 is the last of the six older Tourismo’s in Fly livery.

Quite right - brain fog at stupid o'clock in the morning!

 

[Stan Drews]

Quite right - brain fog at stupid o'clock in the morning!

I can have haar throughout the day!

*apologies to anyone not of an east coast persuasion, that might require the services of Google*

 

[christopherrfc]

Services 17 and 60 are being combined to operate as one service as service 17 from the 29th of August

Changes to services 17 & 60

From Monday 29th August 2022 services 17 and 60 will be combined

www.mcgillsbuses.co.uk

Changes to services 17 & 60​

Today Wed 10th Aug 2022

From Monday 29th August 2022 services 17 and 60 will be combined to form a new route 17 running from Foxbar (Heriot Avenue) to Queen Elizabeth University Hospital via the current 60 route to Paisley Cross, and then the current 17 route from Paisley Cross to QEUH.​

Buses will operate every 30 minutes on Monday to Saturday, and hourly on Sundays, providing a number of new and improved links.

• Improved 30 minute frequency between Paisley and QEUH
• New direct link between the Royal Alexandra and Queen Elizabeth University Hospitals
• New direct links to the RAH from the Ralston and Cardonald areas
• New hourly Sunday service between Paisley and QEUH
• New hourly Sunday service operating via Morar Drive

Two early morning journeys from Johnstone Depot to QEUH via Paisley on Monday to Friday will continue to operate, but will now show service 17A.

 

[PaulMc7]

Services 17 and 60 are being combined to operate as one service as service 17 from the 29th of August

This is quite smart to be fair and I'm surprised we haven't seen more route merging where possible to be quite honest. It'll be interesting to see how well it does because the 17 has really fell apart on the passenger front over the years. It's a shame that they never retried the old route through Partick etc but competing with First wouldn't end well to be honest on that corridor.

 

[adrock1976]

Services 17 and 60 are being combined to operate as one service as service 17 from the 29th of August

The bit where it says "New hourly Sunday service between Paisley and QEUH" is not new at all, as the 17 used to run on a Sunday pre pandemic.

 

[Stan Drews]

The bit where it says "New hourly Sunday service between Paisley and QEUH" is not new at all, as the 17 used to run on a Sunday pre pandemic.

It hasn’t had a Sunday service for a number of years, and certainly well before anyone had ever heard of covid!

 

[sannox]

This is quite smart to be fair and I'm surprised we haven't seen more route merging where possible to be quite honest. It'll be interesting to see how well it does because the 17 has really fell apart on the passenger front over the years. It's a shame that they never retried the old route through Partick etc but competing with First wouldn't end well to be honest on that corridor.

It's a smart idea to combine services but it was combined with the 7 previously and then broken for 'reliability purposes'. Same with the 36/38.

Also the 17 wasn't really competing with First though, it provided links from Cardonald/Paisley to the west end.

 

[PaulMc7]

It's a smart idea to combine services but it was combined with the 7 previously and then broken for 'reliability purposes'. Same with the 36/38.

Also the 17 wasn't really competing with First though, it provided links from Cardonald/Paisley to the west end.

It offered different links beyond the Queen Elizabeth but from there to the city centre it mirrored the 77 so it was competing with First in solid territory for them

 

[markymark2000]

In the interests of completeness, I think it's worth noting here that McGills have bought First Bluebird and First Scotland East. Further discussion on the topic is happening on the First thread but I do feel like it needs putting on here given it's a McGills purchase and will be renamed McGills.

Message from McGills Enthusiast Group on Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/groups/1455698127967375) from MD Ralph Roberts

We have some very exciting news to share.

The McGill's Team is expanding yet again with the First Scotland East businesses now joining the McGill's Bus Group.

The two businesses will be named McGill's Midland Bluebird and McGill's Eastern Scottish but will collectively operate as McGill's Scotland East.

Lots more details to follow so watch this space.