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Hi Apologies if this has cropped up before but why is SOKEJN consistently listed as a calling point on this service (1548 ex Norwich) at Ely, it also is on the automatic station announcement as a calling point, other than it pausing briefly at Stoke Jc?
 

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Hi Apologies if this has cropped up before but why is SOKEJN consistently listed as a calling point on this service (1548 ex Norwich) at Ely, it also is on the automatic station announcement as a calling point, other than it pausing briefly at Stoke Jc?
It’s as simple as someone making it a passenger calling point rather than a passing/timing point when creating the path.
Happens on east coast mainline quite often, with services showing Abbeyhill Junction as a calling point on Passenger screens and trains Passenger information screens.
 

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Happens sometimes in this area, I've seen Longlands Junction displayed for Redcar bound tpe services, also a signal just north of Northallerton for southbound grand Central services
 

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It’s as simple as someone making it a passenger calling point rather than a passing/timing point when creating the path.
Happens on east coast mainline quite often, with services showing Abbeyhill Junction as a calling point on Passenger screens and trains Passenger information screens.
Abbeyhill Junction often made it into the manual announcements at Newcastle station, prior to the arrival of ATOS Anne.
 

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Abbeyhill Junction often made it into the manual announcements at Newcastle station, prior to the arrival of ATOS Anne.
Same with Carlisle Diverts, and Durham Coast Diverts, Longlands Junction, King Edward Bridge Junction and I think London Road Junction were other frequent ones for Virgin/LNER.
 

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In the network rail data it has a public arrival and departure time. Just a mistake. Happens all the time.
 

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There was Melton between Selby and Hull. It was in the Baker rail atlas with an asterisk. And only appeared as a footnote in the BR passenger timetable. Never did work out what was going on. Its has a Wiki entry but I cant find mention of it in 1978 BR passenger Timetbale
 

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The timing point at Stoke Tunnel (SOKEJN being it's TIPLOC), where the train stops for 1 minute, has incorrectly been input to the train schedule as a passenger stop rather than for operating purposes.

As the platform screen doesn't have that location in its list of valid stations it displays the TIPLOC instead.
 

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I remember, perhaps 15-20 years ago, at Durham seeing a none existing platform displayed on the screens where a none stop Aberdeen bound HST was displayed on the screens as stopping on platform DF - presumably the down fast.
 

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There was Melton between Selby and Hull. It was in the Baker rail atlas with an asterisk. And only appeared as a footnote in the BR passenger timetable. Never did work out what was going on. Its has a Wiki entry but I cant find mention of it in 1978 BR passenger Timetbale
Appears to have been a workmen's halt, so not really publicised for general passenger use: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melton_Halt_railway_station
 

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Today's (18/01/22) 1617 Glasgow Central to Edinburgh has PRNCSTG as a station stop on the displays at Glasgow Central. RTT shows a call at Princes St Gardens:
 

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Today's (18/01/22) 1617 Glasgow Central to Edinburgh has PRNCSTG as a station stop on the displays at Glasgow Central. RTT shows a call at Princes St Gardens:
Short Term Plan overlay for 10-28 January, beyond that date it is (so far) just a passing time at Princes Street Gardens.
 

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Water Street Jn used to show up as a call for Northern on Southport to Alderley Edge trains. Every now and then it pops up again.
 

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NWTLWJ often showed on trains when they were booked to wait at the junction between Cambuslang and Newton
 

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Would be interesting to know if any closed stations, that now act as timing points, ever make an inadvertent reappearance on departure boards in this way.
Yes - there are lots of timing points where trains might be booked to stop for some reason (e.g. being overtaken or waiting for a conflicting train etc.) which are former stations. For example on the WCML you have Brinklow, Lowton and Beattock, around Sheffield you have Heeley, on the GEML you have Haughley and Trowse, on the ECML you have Helpston, Temple Hirst and Tollerton.
 

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IIRC Talerdig once made it into table 75 of the National Timetable. That would have been in the 70s or 80s, I don't remember now but I think just as a footnote.
 

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Bradley Junction used to be shown as a calling point on the screens at Leeds for the Leeds - Huddersfield via Halifax service and when operated by Northern Heaton Lodge Junction for the Leeds - Huddersfield via Dewsbury service. Both as Transpennine’s were timed to pass them at these points.
 

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In the train planning system, any timing point where a train stops has to have an activity code to say what the purpose of that stop is. There are around 34 of those activity codes, of which 4 relate to advertised passenger stops.

As with any system, human error can occasionally result in one of the passenger activity codes being input at a non-passenger location.
 

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Has anyone seen if trains scheduled to "London Road Depot" will actually have it show up on the departure board, or showing the last passenger station call properly?
 

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There was some strange ones at Nuneaton in the early 90s. Not a stopping point (more of a timing point, maybe), but on Birmingham to Cambridge services Croft used to appear; on Birmingham-bound services you'd see Coleshill (way before Parkway station opened), and the Coventry line had "Oil Term Jtn" sometimes. This was when the CRT screens had started to become colour at the station. Plus the PA system used to play out the Talking Clock ("At the third stroke, the time sponsored by Accuritst, will be... pip, pip, pip") at 9pm each night - just before the Holyhead InterCity train.
 

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Some years ago I saw a Voyager at Didcot advertising next stop as Foxhall Junction on the door side display. Didnt hear any automated platform announcement but trains were going from Didcot towards Swindon and then reversing at Foxhall to go round the west curve towards Oxford.
 

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In the train planning system, any timing point where a train stops has to have an activity code to say what the purpose of that stop is. There are around 34 of those activity codes, of which 4 relate to advertised passenger stops.

As with any system, human error can occasionally result in one of the passenger activity codes being input at a non-passenger location.
When a stop is added to a passenger schedule, it defaults to being an advertised passenger call. A deliberate effort is required to prevent this from being the case, and this is the reason why it is overlooked now and again.
 

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Would be interesting to know if any closed stations, that now act as timing points, ever make an inadvertent reappearance on departure boards in this way.
A couple of months ago I saw Lugton included at Carlisle for a Glasgow via Dumfries train. The automated announcement left it out, but then it was included in a subsequent manual announcement.
 

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Has anyone seen if trains scheduled to "London Road Depot" will actually have it show up on the departure board, or showing the last passenger station call properly?
On the Bakerloo?

They show the TIPLOC on the summary boards. The platforms don't show them, they flash up "Passing service"
 
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