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One Wales Express shadow run, 08/12/08

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I have been told that there is a special run, T&T with the 57's on Monday, from CDF to HHD.

No Times as yet, but looks like it will run, on its booked time of 16:17 ex-CDF. I will post when I get them, but ATW management will be on board along with the chefs who will work the service!

Do feel for those poor chefs, who are Cardiff based, and will have to spend the night in accommodation in Holyhead, how pleasant for them :D
 
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I was just going to post that I'd be there at Hereford armed with my HC37 for some video, but realised I'm on the Scottish MegaBash, 2/3 through the Gloucester to London leg when it's due through Hereford!

Hope that the run goes well, would make a cracking photo!
 

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Will be interesting to see how it goes, seeing as the first run we did with it wasnt anywhere near its booked slot !!
 

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The special is due to leave cardiff central at 16:18 and get into holyhead at 21:00, it should be shown as 1Z91.

STOPS ARE AT: Newport, Shrewsbury, crewe, chester. flint, bangor and Holyhead at: 21:00

i am planning on heading up to cardiff central or newport tommorow afternoon to get a shot of this otherwise if i cant get a photo tommorow i will go up on the 15th december.
 

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Headcode: 1Z91 UID: J62371 08/12/2008 1618 Cardiff Central [CDF] to Holyhead [HHD]
This Train is operated by Arriva Trains Wales.


Cardiff Central [CDF] 1618
MSHFILD Pass 1625
EBBWJ Pass 1627
Newport (South Wales) [NWP] 1630 1632
MAINDWJ Pass 1633 Pass
MAINDNJ Pass 1634 Pass
LTTLMLJ Pass 1645 Pass
Abergavenny [AGV]Pass 1651 Pass
PONTRLS Pass 1701 Pass
TRAMINN Pass 1706 Pass
Hereford [HFD] Pass 1714 Pass
SHIP Pass 1717 Pass
MRTNONL Pass 1720 Pass
Leominster [LEO] Pass 1728
WOFERTN Pass 1733 Pass
BRFLD Pass 1739 Pass
Craven Arms [CRV]Pass 1743 Pass
MSHBRKX Pass 1748 Pass
DORNGTN Pass 1756 Pass
SHRWSBJ Pass 1802 Pass
Shrewsbury [SHR]1805 1808
HRLSCTX Pass 1811 Pass
Wem [WEM] Pass 1819 Pass
Prees [PRS] Pass 1823 Pass
Wrenbury [WRE] Pass 1833 Pass
Nantwich [NAN] Pass 1837 Pass
CREWEGL Pass 1844 Pass
Crewe [CRE] 1846 1850
CREWESW Pass 1853 Pass
BESTTSB Pass 1903 Pass
Chester [CTR] 1916 1919
CHSTRSJ Pass 1920 Pass
SLNYJN Pass 1922 Pass
Shotton [SHT] Pass 1928 Pass
Flint [FLN] 1932 1932
HLWLJN Pass 1937 Pass
Rhyl [RHL] 1948 1949
Colwyn Bay [CWB]Pass 1958 Pass
Llandudno Junction [LLJ]2003 2004
Penmaenmawr [PMW] Pass 2011 Pass
Bangor (Gwynedd) [BNG] 2021 2026
MENAIBG Pass 2029 Pass
Llanfairpwll [LPG] Pass 2031 Pass
GRWN Pass 2038 Pass
Valley [VAL] Pass 2052 Pass
Holyhead [HHD] 2105
 

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Here are the timings which have appeared in the system, they've been translated for easier reading.

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08/12/2008
Location		Arr  Dep/Pass

Cardiff Central 	     1618
Newport			1630 1632
Abergavenny		PASS 1651
TRAMINN			PASS 1706
Hereford		PASS 1714
Leominster		PASS 1728
BRFLD			PASS 1739
Craven Arms		PASS 1743
DORNGTN			PASS 1756
Shrewsbury		1805 1808
Wem			PASS 1819
Prees			PASS 1823
Wrenbury		PASS 1833
Nantwich		PASS 1837
Crewe			1846 1850
BESTTSB			PASS 1903
Chester			1916 1919
SLNYJN			PASS 1922
Shotton			PASS 1928
Flint			1932 1932
HLWLJN			PASS 1937
Rhyl			1948 1949
Colwyn Bay		PASS 1958
Llandudno Junction	2003 2004
Penmaenmawr		PASS 2011
Bangor			2021 2026
Llanfairpwll		PASS 2031
GRWN			PASS 2038
Valley			PASS 2052
Holyhead		2105

EDIT: I was beaten too it whilst typing them out to make it easier to read, never mind!
 

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Interesting, the first dummy run we did with it we stopped it at Cwmbran and Abergavenny.
 

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Are the 57s on loan to ATW or have they bought them off VT? If on loan, how long for?

Ta,
 

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Are the 57s on loan to ATW or have they bought them off VT? If on loan, how long for?

Ta,

Its a sublease from VT. For how long? I don't know!
The two 57's painted in ATW colours are the two main 57's to be used from the pool of VT 57's but two more have been painted into a neutral scheme, and they can be used on the service if needed.
 

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Do look quite smart there, not looking forward to it personally, more for arriva to moan at us for cocking up but there we go.
 

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At Shrewsbury earlier on http://daviddawson.fotopic.net/p55300046.html

Looks the bogs dollocks :)

Looks good to me! 8-)

Certainly looks better in that light than other photos I've seen thus far.

Like the number on the front of the loco too.:)
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Do look quite smart there, not looking forward to it personally, more for arriva to moan at us for cocking up but there we go.

Moan back then...<D

So many delays on ATW seem to be caused by other things, rarely have I seen ATW services delayed because of a lack of dispatch staff at Newport.
 

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lol, no, because its FGW that moan on that lol. There is either a lack of or too many dispatch staff at Newport, you can never win! Arriva management just seem to blame anything and everything on platform staff lol and we get a near weekly briefing on coaching door stock and doors on catches when that very rarely happens tbh....
 

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Sounds like it's more of a problem with rotas and lack of staff. High time someone higher up got their act together!
 

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Well I got the first up dispatch from NWP and its a very smart train If I do say so myself, had to laugh mind, we had all the doors shut except the one opened by the first class host just stood there.... errr we're waiting for you lol. Funny, I've barely ever done coaching stock since starting and in one day I end up with the holyhead and ended up with the taunton 67's 3 times lol (along with one confused punter who decided to ask where the bristol train was after the taunton had gone errrmmm.....)
 

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Must feel weird, having loco-hauled trains on what is predominantly a unit railway. Still ain't gone to see this 57-hauled train, too much hassle. Would make more effort, but merr.
 

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It is very weird indeed, its been a shock to the system because apart from the 4 HSTs an hour its all MU's lol so is certainly a bit weird, and its certainly confused a few punters, like a time machine lol.
 

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aye I did see it pass through Newport after a delayed start to the up service which did confuse me a tad, and all we were told was technical fault.
 

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Oh dear!

Glad 316's down here, I need it. I always thought I needed 315, so when I discovered I'd had it this year it took a while to remember where. Crewe to Chester, 1054 Crewe to Holyhead, 13th September 2008. So I was resting easy until now, now I have to make effort to get 316!

Ta for the gen Dave!
 
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