Progress of delivery of cascaded/refurbished/PRM modified stock to TFW/Wales and Borders

sw1ller · 13 Aug 2020

175101 came out of there last week. I’ve not seen it out and about but I did see it at Chester depot looking brand new.

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6Gtraincrew · 13 Aug 2020

sw1ller said:
175101 came out of there last week. I’ve not seen it out and about but I did see it at Chester depot looking brand new.

Came out on Friday 31st and was back in service the following Wednesday I think

JakeMurphy · 21 Aug 2020

158821 passed me heading to Crewe CS on 5Z21. Maybe next for a refurb? And maybe repairs to one of the ends too.

sd0733 · 21 Aug 2020

150245 heading is currently on its way back to Canton from Crewe after PRM mods.

Philip Roberts · 26 Aug 2020

sd0733 said:
150245 heading is currently on its way back to Canton from Crewe after PRM mods.

I think that means every 150 has now had it's PRM mods?

Anonymous10 · 26 Aug 2020

Philip Roberts said:
I think that means every 150 has now had it's PRM mods?

Believe so now just for refurbishment

sd0733 · 26 Aug 2020

Philip Roberts said:
I think that means every 150 has now had it's PRM mods?

It should be yes. Pretty sure everything is done now bar the Temporary 153s.

Also, to update the list 150213 is now fitted with WSP.

Anonymous10 · 26 Aug 2020

Temporary 153s aren't being done to

sd0733 said:
Also, to update the list 150213 is now fitted with WSP.

Temporary 153s aren't being done to my knowledge

sd0733 · 26 Aug 2020

Anonymous10 said:
Temporary 153s aren't being done to my knowledge

No they arent, excluding the Pacers they are the only Non-PRM modified units in the fleet now.

Anonymous10 · 26 Aug 2020

sd0733 said:
No they arent, excluding the Pacers they are the only Non-PRM modified units in the fleet now.

And hopefully they will all work with a prm unit as much as possible now

PaulHarding150 · 26 Aug 2020

Anonymous10 said:
And hopefully they will all work with a prm unit as much as possible now

I haven't done a huge amount of travelling lately (for obvious reasons) but the few journeys I have had and the trains I've seen from a distance have with the exception of one (which was two pairs of pacers) been a 142/3 and a 150

Anonymous10 · 26 Aug 2020

PaulHarding150 said:
I haven't done a huge amount of travelling lately (for obvious reasons) but the few journeys I have had and the trains I've seen from a distance have with the exception of one (which was two pairs of pacers) been a 142/3 and a 150

Any news if the non prm 153s are with prm units or they working alone?

JakeMurphy · 27 Aug 2020

They are working together

ex GA 153322 was working Chester-Crewe with 153323 yesterday

py_megapixel · 27 Aug 2020

I think if all the 150s are done then this means not only all W&B units are compliant, but also that there are no longer any Sprinters (excluding 153s) in the country which are not compliant.

Only 8½ months late!

PHILIPE · 27 Aug 2020

PaulHarding150 said:
I haven't done a huge amount of travelling lately (for obvious reasons) but the few journeys I have had and the trains I've seen from a distance have with the exception of one (which was two pairs of pacers) been a 142/3 and a 150

There are also Pacers working on the Rhymney to Bridgend services sandwiched between 2 x 153s 0r sometimes just 14x + 153

ValleyLines142 · 27 Aug 2020

Anonymous10 said:
Any news if the non prm 153s are with prm units or they working alone?

Usually the Rhymney 'sandwich' consists of at least one PRM-modified 153 but I have seen some occasions where both 153s have been non-PRMd.

Cardiff123 · 27 Aug 2020

With social distancing here to stay until we (hopefully) get a vaccine, which most scientists are saying will (hopefully) be by autumn next year, I fail to see how TfW can afford to let go of 30 Pacers and the 9 temporary 153s it has.
Even if all 9 x 769s are in full time passenger service by Christmas, that won't allow for all 150s that currently have a Pacer attached to then start working as doubled up 150s instead will it?

ValleyLines142 · 4 Sep 2020

There's so many TfW threads on here now I have no idea whether this is the right one to post this (think they should all just be merged together to avoid confusion) but there are three 150s out on Manchester services today so a 175 must be faulty somewhere (in addition to refurbs).

hobbm013 · 4 Sep 2020

ValleyLines142 said:
There's so many TfW threads on here now I have no idea whether this is the right one to post this (think they should all just be merged together to avoid confusion) but there are three 150s out on Manchester services today so a 175 must be faulty somewhere (in addition to refurbs).

Agreed, I really think the Livery one and this one be Merged. The rest are okay as they are as they’re about new Each type of new stock

Anonymous10 · 4 Sep 2020

hobbm013 said:
Agreed, I really think the Livery one and this one be Merged. The rest are okay as they are as they’re about new Each type of new stock

Agreed this and livery really should be merged with the others being on replacing X train ect

anamyd · 3 Oct 2020

Perhaps somewhat late to be asking this, but does anyone know / could anyone tell me when 153309 entered service for TfW Rail...? Of the 4 other of the ex-Greater Anglia 153s, 2 entered service in January 2020 and the other 2 in March 2020, so we're talking around then (I know it was in service by May 2020) but I'd appreciate an exact date or at least the month of this year.

Thanks either way

Scottish-Exile · 6 Oct 2020

anamyd said:
Perhaps somewhat late to be asking this, but does anyone know / could anyone tell me when 153309 entered service for TfW Rail...?

It came from GA to Landore TMD on 22/01/20 where it underwent small mods / exams to make it ready for TfW services. It left Landore on 11/03/20 once these had been completed so would have been in service from 12th March or soon thereafter.

Bikeman78 · 6 Oct 2020

Scottish-Exile said:
It came from GA to Landore TMD on 22/01/20 where it underwent small mods / exams to make it ready for TfW services. It left Landore on 11/03/20 once these had been completed so would have been in service from 12th March or soon thereafter.

From my observations it doesn't do much. During the early weeks of lockdown it spent a lot of time at Carmarthen acting as a temporary messroom.

sd0733 · 16 Oct 2020

158821 has returned to Machynlleth from Crewe after refurb tonight after 2 months there.
158818 has been at Crewe for a couple of weeks so thats probably in for refurb now.

Caaardiff · 17 Oct 2020

Rumour of a few more 153s arriving from a lease company. I'm guessing Porterbrook for 769 delays?

6Gtraincrew · 17 Oct 2020

Caaardiff said:
Rumour of a few more 153s arriving from a lease company. I'm guessing Porterbrook for 769 delays?

I think they have six which are currently off lease

153302, 153318, 153368, 153372, 153374, 153382

43096 · 17 Oct 2020

6Gtraincrew said:
I think they have six which are currently off lease

153302, 153318, 153368, 153372, 153374, 153382

There's a slight flaw in the plan. Those 6 are all Angel owned.

6Gtraincrew · 17 Oct 2020

Ooops, that does put a fly in the ointment doesn't it. Won't be those then

Rhydgaled · 17 Oct 2020

6Gtraincrew said:
Ooops, that does put a fly in the ointment doesn't it. Won't be those then

Unless 769 delays aren't the reason for them.

PHILIPE · 17 Oct 2020

Rhydgaled said:
Unless 769 delays aren't the reason for them.

We are still awaiting a source for the info yet rather than a rumour as the OP says.

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