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BJames

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My university has effectively done this, we are only allowed to socialise in our own kitchen with 2 other flatmates (I live with 6 people in a university owned flat). This is despite the fact we would all have to self isolate if one of us got it!
This is just stupidity. Some of my friends live in student houses with 10+ people. Almost all student houses have 5-8 people in them. A flat of 6 is not a problem. They're creating unnecessary issues. And they can't enforce that anyway, just continue to ignore them (as I see you've already said you are).
 

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Perhaps the football industry could be a little more responsible and pull it an hour earlier?

With big matches its not always the football clubs or leagues calling the shots. Plus with what is going to be a more compressed season, there will be more games going on, and of course demand for the top officials.
 

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Mondays liverpool vs arsenal game is an 8.15pm kick off so will not finish until gone 10pm.
Good luck kicking people out of the pub with 5 or 10 minutes remaining if its a close game
All it needs is a couple of mid game stoppages for a few minutes and it will definitely go 'over time'. Knowing the government they will ban sports broadcasting in pubs...
 

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To be fair, that would make sense - the loud cheering would result in a lot of spread.
I think you might be overstating the excitement generated by these games tbh, particularly when people are watching them from tables rather than gathering around the TV.
 

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My university has effectively done this, we are only allowed to socialise in our own kitchen with 2 other flatmates (I live with 6 people in a university owned flat). This is despite the fact we would all have to self isolate if one of us got it!

I think you're posting on the wrong thread. You need the 'most over the top restrictions introduced' thread.

But having said that, I am very curious. Is it any three from six at a time, or are you supposed to 'bubble' into two groups of three which never mix? If three are in, and person four wants a cuppa, is he allowed to go in and make it while person one is in the loo? Or would person two be allowed to make it and leave it outside the door? If person three leaves, are persons one and two required to disinfect the kitchen with bleach before person five enters? Do you have any restrictions about other rooms, or just the kitchen? Would it be ok for the fourth person to stand just outside the (open) kitchen door so they could join in the conversation? Has your rent been reduced to reflect the fact that you only have access to a kitchen for 50% of the time?
 

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I think you're posting on the wrong thread. You need the 'most over the top restrictions introduced' thread.

But having said that, I am very curious. Is it any three from six at a time, or are you supposed to 'bubble' into two groups of three which never mix? If three are in, and person four wants a cuppa, is he allowed to go in and make it while person one is in the loo? Or would person two be allowed to make it and leave it outside the door? If person three leaves, are persons one and two required to disinfect the kitchen with bleach before person five enters? Do you have any restrictions about other rooms, or just the kitchen? Would it be ok for the fourth person to stand just outside the (open) kitchen door so they could join in the conversation? Has your rent been reduced to reflect the fact that you only have access to a kitchen for 50% of the time?

It's any three from 6 (soon to increase to 8 when the other two flatmates arrive) at any one time. To be honest I haven't thought much about how it would work in practice because it's so ridiculously impractical!
 

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It's any three from 6 (soon to increase to 8 when the other two flatmates arrive) at any one time. To be honest I haven't thought much about how it would work in practice because it's so ridiculously impractical!

Just be grateful they haven't tried to mandate wearing of facemasks in the kitchen!
 

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Just come accross this bit of the Government website:

In particular, this bit:
Hospitality venues in England are from today (18 September) legally required to enforce the rule of 6 or face a fine of up to £4,000
[....]

pubs, bars, cafes and restaurants in England will now need to take bookings of no more than 6 people, ensure people are not meeting in groups of more than 6 people on their
premises, and make sure there is sufficient space between tables

Does this mean that a household of 8 can no longer visit a restaurant, for example, because they will be unable to book a table? Because if that's not what they mean then they need to get their website sorted, because a lot of businesses will enforce the rules verbatim as stated in the guidance, with fines of thousands now being possible!
 

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I haven't come across a single hospitality venue offering tables of more than 6 anyway. A group of 8 would be split across two (adjacent, if legit; separated if not legit) tables.
 

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There's certainly evidence of it being related to singing - there were a number of early superspreading events in churches.

To intervene on this, yes there were a couple of super spreading events related to choirs. However that is mostly because singing is a very social activity - people shared music copies, had a cup of tea together at the break, went to the pub after etc..

All evidence so far points to singing not being significantly more 'dangerous' than talking. There was a major study undertaken on this over the summer with results released last month.

I followed this closely as the ridiculous restrictions f'd up one of my main hobbies (and still is).
 

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Following the comments above discussing the maximum group size of 6 in a hospitality venue a household / bubble of 6 can sit together as traditional but for a group of three couples each from a different household as I interpret all the guidelines each couple should ideally be 2metres from the others or absolute minimum 1metre.

For 2metres separation that is a table or several tables together 5metres long. For 1metre separation at least 3m long.

Do / will venues consider the number of households in a group ?
 

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Following the comments above discussing the maximum group size of 6 in a hospitality venue a household / bubble of 6 can sit together as traditional but for a group of three couples each from a different household as I interpret all the guidelines each couple should ideally be 2metres from the others or absolute minimum 1metre.

For 2metres separation that is a table or several tables together 5metres long. For 1metre separation at least 3m long.

Do / will venues consider the number of households in a group ?
Hasn't the concept of "bubbles"been quietly ditched (at least in England)? It's just the rule of 6.
Distancing is guidance not law. I can't imagine anyone would want to go for a meal if they had to sit at a massive table miles away from the friends.
 

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Hasn't the concept of "bubbles"been quietly ditched (at least in England)? It's just the rule of 6.
Distancing is guidance not law. I can't imagine anyone would want to go for a meal if they had to sit at a massive table miles away from the friends.

No, the single person support bubble is still a thing, the difference is that they are considered part of a combined household and are not advised to distance at all.
 

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Hasn't the concept of "bubbles"been quietly ditched (at least in England)? It's just the rule of 6.
Distancing is guidance not law. I can't imagine anyone would want to go for a meal if they had to sit at a massive table miles away from the friends.

No, I can confirm that it's still firmly in place and on both sides of the English and Scottish border.
 

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Distancing is guidance not law. I can't imagine anyone would want to go for a meal if they had to sit at a massive table miles away from the friends.
Which is exactly what I experienced last week when out for a meal with family. Despite presenting ourselves as one extended household (or "bubble" in England), the waitress insisted that both households sat at separate tables.
 

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Mondays liverpool vs arsenal game is an 8.15pm kick off so will not finish until gone 10pm.
Good luck kicking people out of the pub with 5 or 10 minutes remaining if its a close game

This game has now been brought forward by 15 minutes.
 

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Hasn't the concept of "bubbles"been quietly ditched (at least in England)? It's just the rule of 6.
Distancing is guidance not law. I can't imagine anyone would want to go for a meal if they had to sit at a massive table miles away from the friends.
Indeed not, I would of thought that meeting up at someone's house and ordering a takeaway would be their preferred option.
 

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Please feel free to add the filter.

Are you stating that singing definitely spreads diseases? If so, try to convince me of that.
Not necessarily - though it probably does, to some extent, even if only as much as talking.

I am instead stating that Christianity definitely does not spread diseases, because it is a faith. We know that viruses spread through the air, but there is no way they can spread through thought, or a shared belief...
 

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Not necessarily - though it probably does, to some extent, even if only as much as talking.

I am instead stating that Christianity definitely does not spread diseases, because it is a faith. We know that viruses spread through the air, but there is no way they can spread through thought, or a shared belief...
Fair enough. :smile:
 
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