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Goldromans

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Sorry if this has already been answered, but is today’s wabtec-slateford move more Coach E’s heading north or is it the set that went down for warranty repairs a few weeks ago?
 

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Sorry if this has already been answered, but is today’s wabtec-slateford move more Coach E’s heading north or is it the set that went down for warranty repairs a few weeks ago?
The set and coach numbers should give that away! :lol:
 

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It's a temporary set number just for the journey. Obviously when these coaches are split up and put into their respective sets it won't exist anymore.
 

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8 so far. Was it 17 the total number?

Also, do we know if there are more warranty work coaches to go down?
 

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They are firing them out quick now. Shame it took so long at the beginning.
And a shame that there's neither the passengers or timetable to use the trains to fulfil their intended purpose of taking people quickly and comfortably from one corner of Scotland to another.

I suppose Covid has helped the Scotrail HST project in that it's distracted everyone from how late running and frustrating it had become.
 

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And a shame that there's neither the passengers or timetable to use the trains to fulfil their intended purpose of taking people quickly and comfortably from one corner of Scotland to another.

I suppose Covid has helped the Scotrail HST project in that it's distracted everyone from how late running and frustrating it had become.
To be fair the HSTs are fulfilling their intended purpose just now without any fuss. Just no passengers on board.
 

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Was driving out of Morrisons in Inverness this morning and noticed an HST set parked behind the carriage shed with 43175 noticeably further forward than usual.

Maybe my imagination was on overdrive, but it was about where I would expect to see it if there was a 2+5 set stabled there. There was a "First" immediately behind 43175 so no point going back to see if it was a "Coach E".

I expect it was just where it had been stopped, but does anyone know if there has been any 2+5 sets formed and /or tested yet?
 

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Probably a silly question, but are ScotRail HST trailers allocated to Haymarket or Inverness?

I am confused because:
  • The Inter7City set numbers HAnn imply the allocation of these sets to Haymarket
  • My newly acquired Platform 5 2021 book shows the intermediate trailers allocated to Inverness
  • The same publication shows the power cars (class 43 locos if you like) allocated to Haymarket
Thanks
 

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  • My newly acquired Platform 5 2021 book shows the intermediate trailers allocated to Inverness
  • The same publication shows the power cars (class 43 locos if you like) allocated to Haymarket
I believe that is correct.
 

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Probably a silly question, but are ScotRail HST trailers allocated to Haymarket or Inverness?

I am confused because:
  • The Inter7City set numbers HAnn imply the allocation of these sets to Haymarket
  • My newly acquired Platform 5 2021 book shows the intermediate trailers allocated to Inverness
  • The same publication shows the power cars (class 43 locos if you like) allocated to Haymarket
Thanks
Trailers are allocated to Inverness, power cars at Haymarket.
 

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What's it called? It's called Cumbernauld
Were the power cars and trailers ever allocated separately when with Great Western, or was the whole train allocated OO (Old Oak), LA (Laira), and LE (Landore)?

When East Midlands had their original batch, the whole train was allocated NL (Neville Hill), likewise with Arriva Crosscountry.

Also, were the East Coast sets allocated to EC (Edinburgh Craigentinney), or were they split like in the Scotrail case?
 

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Were the power cars and trailers ever allocated separately when with Great Western, or was the whole train allocated OO (Old Oak), LA (Laira), and LE (Landore)?

When East Midlands had their original batch, the whole train was allocated NL (Neville Hill), likewise with Arriva Crosscountry.

Also, were the East Coast sets allocated to EC (Edinburgh Craigentinney), or were they split like in the Scotrail case?
East Coast sets were all allocated to Craigentinny (as were the XC sets - they were only moved to Laira a few years ago when Craigentinny became a Hitachi depot).
 

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Were the power cars and trailers ever allocated separately when with Great Western, or was the whole train allocated OO (Old Oak), LA (Laira), and LE (Landore)?

When East Midlands had their original batch, the whole train was allocated NL (Neville Hill), likewise with Arriva Crosscountry.

Also, were the East Coast sets allocated to EC (Edinburgh Craigentinney), or were they split like in the Scotrail case?
Old Oak was OC wasn't it?
 

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Old Oak was OC wasn't it?
OC was the loco depot, OO was the HST depot and OH was the Heathrow Express depot. Think OM was used for LHCS as well?

Were the power cars and trailers ever allocated separately when with Great Western, or was the whole train allocated OO (Old Oak), LA (Laira), and LE (Landore)?

When East Midlands had their original batch, the whole train was allocated NL (Neville Hill), likewise with Arriva Crosscountry.

Also, were the East Coast sets allocated to EC (Edinburgh Craigentinney), or were they split like in the Scotrail case?
Landore never had a trailer car allocation, only power cars. Trailers moved around over the years between Old Oak, Laira and St. Philip's Marsh. Latterly they were allocated to Laira, with a spare TGS at SPM, even though power cars were split between OO, LA and LE.
 

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Old Oak was OC wasn't it?
Correct, you had rakes allocated as OC (Old Oak) and LA (Laira) with a few vehicles allocated as spares to Old Oak (OO) and St Philips Marsh (PM).

Old Oak had sets : OC30 - OC57.

Laira had sets : LA01 - LA16, LA60 - LA80

PM - 44100
OO - 44024
 
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What's it called? It's called Cumbernauld
OC was the loco depot, OO was the HST depot and OH was the Heathrow Express depot. Think OM was used for LHCS as well?


Landore never had a trailer car allocation, only power cars. Trailers moved around over the years between Old Oak, Laira and St. Philip's Marsh. Latterly they were allocated to Laira, with a spare TGS at SPM, even though power cars were split between OO, LA and LE.

Correct, you had rakes allocated as OC (Old Oak) and LA (Laira) with a few vehicles allocated as spares to Old Oak (OO) and St Philips Marsh (PM).

Old Oak had sets : OC30 - OC 57.

Laira had sets : LA01 - 16, LA 60 - LA 80

PM - 44100
OO - 44024

Many thanks.
 

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Just to prove it does exist here's 43128 at Haymarket Depot. 43185 is sat behind it in the process of being striped for spares.
 

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Just to prove it does exist here's 43128 at Haymarket Depot. 43185 is sat behind it in the process of being striped for spares.
Honestly, 43185 looks like it could have been sat since IC Swallow days given the current condition....

I presume the panel missing on 43128 was used to replace a damaged one on a different power car?
 

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Just to prove it does exist here's 43128 at Haymarket Depot. 43185 is sat behind it in the process of being striped for spares.

Its real haha don't think we will see for a while sadly wow its got a bit of work to get it operational
 

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How many sets are diagrammed out on a daily basis in the current timetable? And how is availability now?
 

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How many sets are diagrammed out on a daily basis in the current timetable? And how is availability now?
Looking at the last few days with the gen on Facebook there seems to be around 12 diagrams at the moment.
 

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Looking at the last few days with the gen on Facebook there seems to be around 12 diagrams at the moment.
Yes.. Quite a few 170s and 158s still doing Inverness to Glasgow and Edinburgh.
Are more diagrams set to be switched to HST from May?
 
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