Which does make sense operationally. Though I'd hazard a guess that they might choose to add one or two stations en-route as well if they are (a) full-time staffed; and (b) popular biking destinations. Transport would be terminus to biking station or biking station to terminus though.
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Indeed, in this case I'm thinking of stations such as Aviemore - where the extra space provided by the van would allow bikes to be carried during the summer and Ski's during the winter.
Are both the leading and trailing power cars always accommodated on the platform at all stations served? If there are any locations where either end is likely to be hanging off of the platform, that's obviously another significant consideration.
In FGW/GWR days, use of the (usually rear) power car for cycle storage was at the discretion of the guard, but generally only intended for end to end journeys due to the potential for delay minutes to rack up if the area was accessed at intermediate stops. Completely agree that there is zero chance of it being used by the punters; it'll be crew access only if it's used at all.
In FGW/GWR days, use of the (usually rear) power car for cycle storage was at the discretion of the guard, but generally only intended for end to end journeys due to the potential for delay minutes to rack up if the area was accessed at intermediate stops. Completely agree that there is zero chance of it being used by the punters; it'll be crew access only if it's used at all.
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Both power cars can be accommodated at every station they normally serve except Invergowrie I think?
Even on a 2+5 set?
It’s not reasonable to expect power car access at each station. The guard needs to manage this and dwelling time will increase significantly. Whether that is loading a bike or unloading it.
I can understand why it was always proposed to be end points only.
I can understand why it was always proposed to be end points only.
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I would think so apart from maybe Newtonmore, didn’t include that though as 2+5’s are only supposed to mainly be for Aberdeen - Edinburgh/Glasgow services
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That's a shame if the Highland Mainline gets busier at certain times of year. Then again, nothing to stop SR putting our a 5 or 6 car DMU on some trains they're still down for like the busy 10xx from Inverness. May 2022 draft proposals on their website suggest a fair few services booked units still between Perth and Inverness (ironically more in one direction, southbound I think, than the other meaning there must be an uneven balance on the Elgin route too to ensure it balances overall).
nat67
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43149+43135 went ECS to Cadder this morning presumably for testing.
Power cars only or with a rake of coaches? If the latter, four or five?
Dfatcontroller
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Coaches x5. Set HA10.
Does anyone know if a number of HST’s were damaged in the storm? Nearly half of Aberdeen HST services yesterday and today have been replaced by short formed DMU’s - quite a few 2 car 158’s on busy Aberdeen to Edinburgh and Glasgow routes yesterday for example. The scotrail site states “due to severe weather”
There are 4 units on HST diagrams according to the gen I have seen on Facebook for today. Yesterday some sets didn't come out until the afternoon and over the weekend a number of sets were trapped in Aberdeen and Inverness which could explain some of the short forms.
Also set HA05 is now a 5 car set.
There were also quite a few sets stuck in the wrong places, so I guess they’ll take a day or two to get slotted back into the right diagrams. Control have to watch space in various depots for over night stabling, especially as there are other trains that’ll be taking up space following storm damage and some breakdowns/failures yesterday.
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Interesting to see on RTT a movement from Inverness to Cadder tomorrow morning.
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Realtime Trains - 5Z90 0717 Inverness to Cadder Hst Depot
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The set which did the, Scotrail special to Boat of Garten from Edinburgh on Saturday, started from Cadder as ECS and returned there after the trip.Interesting to see on RTT a movement from Inverness to Cadder tomorrow morning.
Realtime Trains - 5Z90 0717 Inverness to Cadder Hst Depot
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Think I heard somewhere it was 5 additional coaches that have been in store at Inverness to upgrade more sets.
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In total there’s 17 additional TS vehicles to go into 4-car sets. Whether all 17 get done now remains to be seen.
Dfatcontroller
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It's a full 2+5 (HA06) ready for the TT change at the weekend.
Think they have all been delivered. Though they probably will upgrade a set that was meant to stay at 4 cars. With the set written off.
hexagon789
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Yes, all 17 delivered by last month.
scot-rail lists four sets as 2+5 (HA05, 06, 10 & 11) plus one 2+5 test set (HA12).
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Can anyone list which trailers have gone into these sets?
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Many thanks
Although Cadder is currently being used to stable an odd HST set the depot is far from finished and has not been opened as an operational depot yet. It's a space issue at other depots.
I was wondering why the odd HST set was ending up in the Dundee carriage sidings.
Finished or not, scotrail are tweeting that it opens this weekend
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