Stagecoach East Scotland

[overthewater]

Is there any way back from this though. Even Ferrytoll seems quieter although this could be the roadworks hitting passenger numbers.

They hopefully have plans to fix it all.....

Is there a way back, of course there is.... But do tweedle dee and tweedle dum wont to lose face and make a 180 turn? doubtful. Let be fair here, cleaning shop had to happen at some point, but its been badly executed and while some dead wood has been taken out there went a bit over broad in some aspects. From what I've seen and heard certain ideas were not for changing for anyone and didn't fit in with their plans... IE not the customers plans....

Again there need to stand up to Transport Scotland and make it clear, there run those empty buses for no reason but to show face for TS closing off the A985... if thats where part of the money went......

Of course how much money did all those gift bags etc cost on New No40 in Quensferry? New No73 buses in Dundee? New Perth buses at St Johnston? new Coaches for X58/60 in Kirkcaldy? There was suppose to be launch for the new No19 buses in December... but that was quickly dropped.

Halbeath is ALOT busier of late but hopeful once the roadworks are finished, it will return to normal, but how many of those cars belong to passengers who used to take the No2/no3...

 

[Fifescottish]

Same with the rail stations, was always bad getting parked but without 1 and no 2 after 7am its practically impossible to get parked anywhere.

Surely management further up the tree in Perth must be asking questions?

 

[overthewater]

Same with the rail stations, was always bad getting parked but without 1 and no 2 after 7am its practically impossible to get parked anywhere.

Surely management further up the tree in Perth must be asking questions?

Nope: there just be seeing there nice fat piggy bank doing house cleaning making sure the double digits profits are kept in tow.

 

[Fifescottish]

Standards have dropped as well, like 10 year old coaches on the X55. Another Firstgroup on the horizon. Needs a big shake up!

 

[overthewater]

Standards have dropped as well, like 10 year old coaches on the X55. Another Firstgroup on the horizon. Needs a big shake up!

The old Aiport E300 with the racks are still running about with them inside, and one is still not been repainted, You know who else did that First Edinburgh......

There put grotty 8 year coaches on the X24, and worse still there not getting cleaned, there dirty and drivers are even complaining now. Take a mop the floor and windows. There going to get a nasty shock.

 

[Fifescottish]

I assumed the one that wasnt repainted was a spare, but have seen it on the 3 and 5 recently.

Are things that bad that they cant afford cleaners now! Have seen lots of complaints on twitter about dirty coaches and smelly toilets.

 

[overthewater]

I assumed the one that wasnt repainted was a spare, but have seen it on the 3 and 5 recently.

Are things that bad that they cant afford cleaners now! Have seen lots of complaints on twitter about dirty coaches and smelly toilets.

No surprise there. You cant sit there and demand a premium and then operate crap. The accountants have moved in and the care has been swepted out the door.

 

[Fifescottish]

Maintenance standards dropped as well. Seems to be a constant stream of breakdowns?

 

[overthewater]

Not really just crap coaches....

 

[GaryMcEwan]

Not really just crap coaches....

Have you read their Twitter feed lately? It's breakdown's left right and centre and not just in Fife either...

 

[overthewater]

A Scania OmniLink tri-axle is now in Swindon, with talk of the rest of the batch going to Swindon as well.
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The bus WAS sent down but was to long so its come back to Scotland. Heres an idea, how about putting them back into use on the X51 and X55....

 

[Fifescottish]

A Scania OmniLink tri-axle is now in Swindon, with talk of the rest of the batch going to Swindon as well.
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The bus WAS sent down but was to long so its come back to Scotland. Heres an idea, how about putting them back into use on the X51 and X55....

Nah, too much sense in that and it might be good for the paying passengers and we cant have that...

They much prefer clapped out B7's or B12's with manky interiors.

 

[overthewater]

Nah, too much sense in that and it might be good for the paying passengers and we cant have that...

They much prefer clapped out B7's or B12's with manky interiors.

which also breakdown alot of the time, its a disgrace how far from grace its fallen.

There is now talk there of actually changes planned for October whether that true is another question, but if its true... its would be policy.
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The start of the service changes:

https://www.stagecoachbus.com/servi...0&hootPostID=df70008fdc5cf728e2c576770fc84d7f

From Monday 26 September, some Monday - Friday morning journeys on route 36 between Glenrothes/Newburgh & Perth will be re-timed.

From this date, the journey from Glenrothes to Perth at 0558, and the journey from Perth to Newburgh at 0719 will both run 10 mins earlier than currently advertised at all stops.

Additionally, the journey from Newburgh to Perth at 0808 on schooldays will now depart Newburgh High St at 0751 before serving all other stops 16 mins earlier than currently advertised. This journey will now serve Perth Canal St stop ZP at 0830 before arriving at Perth High School at the current time of 0845 (via County Pl and Glasgow Rd).

The current school holiday journey from Newburgh to Perth at 0808 will now depart Newburgh High St earlier at 0755 and arrive at Perth bus station at 0833, instead of Perth High School.

http://www.dunfermlinepress.com/new...ad_to_catch_falling_suitcases_on_airport_bus/

A DUNFERMLINE holidaymaker says she finished her weekend getaway by dodging falling suitcases on the bus link home.

Vicky Shorrock returned from a weekend in Majorca and caught Stagecoach's 747 airport service on September 13 but claimed heavy suitcases fell onto passengers below multiple times throughout the journey from Edinburgh Airport to Dunfermline.

She said: "It's just ridiculous that there is no adequate space for luggage for a bus coming from the airport.

"Luckily, as a lot of people (particularly men) were standing, they were able to catch the falling cases on this occasion but if they had not been quick to react or if there were elderly people or children below, there would have been a serious accident.

"Some of the cases weighed over 20kg."

The service last Tuesday was also extremely busy and there were major delays as a result, according to Vicky.

She added: "I arrived at the bus stop at 14.10, intending to get the 14.30 but the queue was already 20-people long and the 14.30 service didn't turn up until 14.50.

"The bus was just absolutely rammed even though a lot of people were left behind. "Everyone on the bus was saying how awful it was."

Vicky warns other passengers who might be thinking of using the bus after their holiday to err on the side of caution.

She said: "I just want to warn people that the service is very busy and dangerous and If I had known that it was going to be that busy I would have booked a taxi.

"Especially when the people who couldn't fit on my bus would have been waiting for over an hour."

Vicky has since written to Stagecoach to complain.

She said: "I would urge Stagecoach to rectify this situation, ideally by installing netting to prevent items from falling, and providing larger buses with more luggage space."

Andrew Jarvis, managing director, Stagecoach East Scotland said: "Since the recent JET747 rebrand and allocation of the newer buses in August, we have been bowled over by the success of the service. Stagecoach have operated this type of vehicle on airport routes for four years without any issues, however, given the concerns the customer has raised, we will look at the design of the rack and urgently look at what changes can be made."

There were told before hand there were'rt good enough. what he has whitewashed is there were operated on 10mins bus airport service which never had higher level of luggage usage while on the 747. Of course these new to fife ( but were used first time around when the E300 were away getting done up) buses replaced the much larger E300 which still have rack on them even after being repainted. Again its all about show and not about bums on seats....

Also more X55 coaches seems to be breaking down daily, which is a shame because the scannys have all disappeared now, but there is a sliver lining, there now have to use deckers

 

[Fifescottish]

The whole thing is becoming a joke. Is the 747 busier or is it smaller vehicles thats the issue.

Surely there are replacements in the pipeline for the X55. Think back 20 years and they were ordering the bendis specially for that route.

Was on one of the ex north east deckers and half the stop bells didnt work!

 

[overthewater]

The whole thing is becoming a joke. Is the 747 busier or is it smaller vehicles thats the issue.

Surely there are replacements in the pipeline for the X55. Think back 20 years and they were ordering the bendis specially for that route.

Was on one of the ex north east deckers and half the stop bells didnt work!

I think its because the 747 has smaller vechiles, but at certain times the 747 can be very busy. That new train station might cause trouble, but since you still need to change train on to the tram etc 747 might win the day, even with the workers on the 4.45am.

To be fair the bendis ended up on the 55 because of the weak bridge at Leven. Overall the off peak X55 is no longer as busier as it once was. With it no longer serving Inverkeithing it has even less passengers. It if was a proper fast bus then maybe it would have a chance but with running time still creeping towards the one hour mark... no. I can see it happening the X55 will be every 30mins off peak.

Glasgow runs are still very busy on saturday, leaving people behide even with the 63 seater coaches. There could increase the service to every 15mins between 10am -11am and it would just cover all the passengers.

 

[Fifescottish]

Wonder where the Scanias will finally end up. Complaints on twitter that Dunfermline - Edinburgh passengers are getting the c**p end of the stick now.

 

[overthewater]

Wonder where the Scanias will finally end up. Complaints on twitter that Dunfermline - Edinburgh passengers are getting the c**p end of the stick now.

Current top chiefs said, keep on saying passengers wanted these crap heap coaches instead of the decent lowfloor single deckers which was nothing wrong with. Scanias are now parked up somewhere doing nothing, but there is talk the REAL reason there were taken off was to save money on the fuel bills, no idea if true.

When wheelchair users come along, thats game over for that journey.... it can take up 15mins for them to get on, then you have to get them off again...

 

[GaryMcEwan]

Didn't one of them go down to South Wales was which ultimately unsuccessful? Dunno if it was the same one but one was parked up at the Cumbernauld depot a few days ago...

 

[overthewater]

Didn't one of them go down to South Wales was which ultimately unsuccessful? Dunno if it was the same one but one was parked up at the Cumbernauld depot a few days ago...

Same one I believe but it went via Swindon first.
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And so it starts... I wonder if Fife will see any changes.

PM0000004/511 - FIFE SCOTTISH OMNIBUSES LTD T/A Stagecoach East Scotland, UNIT 9, CASTLE BUSINESS CENTRE, QUEENSFERRY ROAD, PITREAVIE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, DUNFERMLINE, KY11 8NT
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Perth, South Street and Scone, Stormont Way given service number 3 effective from 10-Oct-2016. To amend Route.

PM0000004/516 - FIFE SCOTTISH OMNIBUSES LTD T/A Stagecoach East Scotland, UNIT 9, CASTLE BUSINESS CENTRE, QUEENSFERRY ROAD, PITREAVIE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, DUNFERMLINE, KY11 8NT
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Perth, Kinnoull Street and Kinnoull Hill given service number 11 effective from 10-Oct-2016. To amend Route.

PM0000004/517 - FIFE SCOTTISH OMNIBUSES LTD T/A Stagecoach East Scotland, UNIT 9, CASTLE BUSINESS CENTRE, QUEENSFERRY ROAD, PITREAVIE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, DUNFERMLINE, KY11 8NT
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Gannochy, Gannochy Walk and Gannochy, Gannochy Walk given service number 12 effective from 10-Oct-2016. To amend Route.

PM0000004/553 - FIFE SCOTTISH OMNIBUSES LTD T/A Stagecoach East Scotland, UNIT 9, CASTLE BUSINESS CENTRE, QUEENSFERRY ROAD, PITREAVIE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, DUNFERMLINE, KY11 8NT
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Arbroath, Satrire Centre and Dundee city centre given service number 39 effective from 31-Oct-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PM0000004/823 - FIFE SCOTTISH OMNIBUSES LTD T/A Stagecoach East Scotland, UNIT 9, CASTLE BUSINESS CENTRE, QUEENSFERRY ROAD, PITREAVIE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, DUNFERMLINE, KY11 8NT
Registration Accepted by SN
Starting Point: Dundee rail station
Finish Point: Gauldry Windmill Road
Via:
Service Number: 77
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 31-OCT-2016
Other Details: New service replacing curtailed section of service 39 between Dundee and Gauldry

 

[Fifescottish]

They are running the X55 into the ground. Today about 1000 was a 36xxx enviro 200 heading to Edinburgh.

747 left Ferrytoll at that time packed. Needs bigger vehicles.

 

[overthewater]

They are running the X55 into the ground. Today about 1000 was a 36xxx enviro 200 heading to Edinburgh.

747 left Ferrytoll at that time packed. Needs bigger vehicles.

Having an E200 on the 55 is nothing new, but Its still better than the B7 Coaches, but you just watch the X55 will end up being every 30mins sooner rather then later.

With the 747 why not put the old stock back on them, or make it every 20mins again

Lets see if the Glasgow runs are full once again tomorrow morning.

 

[Jamester]

I thought the reason they wanted rid of the Scania on the 55 was the air con doesn't work and it costs too much to replace. They tried putting really dark stained glass windows in but that didn't seem to make much difference.

 

[overthewater]

I thought the reason they wanted rid of the Scania on the 55 was the air con doesn't work and it costs too much to replace. They tried putting really dark stained glass windows in but that didn't seem to make much difference.

Thats a pretty poor reason, especial since the number of cold days out weigh the hot ones. What there could have done is new window panels with bit you could actually open, which could have been done on the near the back windows.

 

[jamieintercity]

MAN E300 22574/9/81 were transferred to stagecoach north east stalyford deport sometime this week.

Also what have 19150-7 replaced at dunfermline? Thought it was going to be the 53 plate tridents but some were still in service this week, so don't know what 19150-7 replaced?

 

[Fifescottish]

Saw one of the B7 coaches today that looked like it had received a repaint. The phrase polishing a you know what springs to mind.

I wondered what had been replaced at Dunfermline as well.

 

[Jamester]

Thats a pretty poor reason, especial since the number of cold days out weigh the hot ones. What there could have done is new window panels with bit you could actually open, which could have been done on the near the back windows.

From what I've heard some of them were blowing warm air into the saloon area. Not good when the air con is defective. They put darker windows in to try and stop the heat from the sun getting through. It doesn't need to be a particularly warm day for the temperature inside to become uncomfortable. Ultimately, they don't want to spend the money fixing them.

 

[Volvodart]

MAN E300 22574/9/81 were transferred to stagecoach north east stalyford deport sometime this week.

Also what have 19150-7 replaced at dunfermline? Thought it was going to be the 53 plate tridents but some were still in service this week, so don't know what 19150-7 replaced?

18015 has gone to Aberdeen.

 

[mbonwick]

It's some 53 reg Tridents and the rest of the Omnilinks that have been replaced at Dunfermline. Tridents likely to still be on the road though as the state of the E400s leaves a lot to be desired...

18015 is (for now) only on loan.

 

[Fifescottish]

19157 has some bells that work and some that dont, scraped windows etc. Amusing watching passengers running down the bus looking for a bell that works!

 

[jamieintercity]

Does anyone know when the olys and non-DDA tridents will be withdrawn throughout Scotland?

Would of thought the seatbelt fitted olys at Blairgowrie and perth would remain in service in 2017 for school use only?