Glosbusspotter
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Well Gloucester depot certainly aren’t doing it... recently repainted 27707 didn’t receive the black headlight covers
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I believe it's meant to make all the fleet look like MMC's. A few early repaints tried that really hard, but with terrible results!Is there any particular reason why Cheltenham’s scania E300s are getting the black headlight covers on the new livery?
15698 (PX60BFA) Windermere 6
Stagecoach Cumbria & North Lancashire Scania N230UD/Enviro400 15698 was the first repaint into the new local livery at CNL. This one still needs to have the front repainted to match our new standard specification with out the black extensions above the lights. Seen here at Windermere operating...
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47617 (PX08FMU) Carlisle Depot
Stagecoach Cumbria & North Lancashire Optare Solo 47617 is the first Optare Solo in the UK Bus fleet to receive the new local livery. I think the application on this one is quite smart apart from the front. Due to the current situation we are unable to source any logos or vinyls from our...
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cnjb8
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Well you were right! A batch of 21 Scania N250UD/ADL E40D MMCs are due, numbered 15350-15370.
DaveHarries
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Sounds good. I guess they will see off the older ones on the Forest routes and perhaps the 71?
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TheGrandWazoo
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Wouldn’t it be more likely to be for the 10 where the 2012 Gold e400s are plying their trade?
DaveHarries
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Great news, 21 Scania MMCs were due for June last year although postponed through the pandemic. I was told then they were intended for use for service 10, although it's PVR is only 16-18. I would suspect the VX62 scanias will be equally split between Gloucester, Stroud and Swindon to be rid of the tridents.
Glosbusspotter
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Is there a link for the order confirmation?
cnjb8
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The vehicles are listed on a site called Bus Lists on the Web.
Glosbusspotter
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Thanks for that, when is the expected delivery date or is it unknown?
FULL LIST HERE
YT21DVA 15350
YT21DVB 15351
YT21DVC 15352
YT21DVF 15353
YT21DVG 15354
YT21DVH 15355
YT21DVJ 15356
YT21DVK 15357
YT21DVL 15358
YT21DVM 15359
YT21DVN 15360
YT21DVO 15361
YT21DVP 15362
YT21DVR 15363
YT21DVU 15364
YT21DVV 15365
YT21DVW 15366
YT21DVX 15367
YT21DVZ 15368
YT21DWA 15369
YT21DWC 15370
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The Oxford Chiltern bus site confirms that they're for the 10. https://www.oxford-chiltern-bus-page.co.uk/Weekly nr 153 020521.html Cheltenham and Gloucester also had the last Scania delivered to Stagecoach in 2018.
TheGrandWazoo
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It was a hunch. The 10 has long been one of Gloucester depots best routes which is why it got the Gold deckers (and the virtually new 55 plate Tridents). However, they are getting on so hence why I guessed that these new ones might be for the 10.
You can almost guarantee they will see a different route that isn't the 10 within two weeks of them being in service. Gloucester allocation has never been great, particularly during the pandemic.
I am (somewhat reliably) told that Tridents will remain for a while still and will run alongside these new vehicles, eventually meaning that Gloucester will have 9(ish) extra deckers for a while.
I am (somewhat reliably) told that Tridents will remain for a while still and will run alongside these new vehicles, eventually meaning that Gloucester will have 9(ish) extra deckers for a while.
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Gloucester's new buses are set to arrive this month and will probably be in service sooner than you think.
The plan, I am told, is to refurbish the interior of 6 VX62 Scanias which Gloucester currently operate to make them in line with the interior scheme of the new arrivals. VX62 CZT has already had this done and is back in service again. The remaining vehicles will be sent to Stroud to replace the VX09 vehicles, which (we expect) will be sent to Stagecoach South who are currently suffering a decker shortage.
The new vehicles will be in the yellow "long distance" or "specialist" scheme, with next stop announcements and high backed seats. They will be allocated to service 10, however expect to see them stray, particularly onto the 97/98. The VX62 batch of vehicles will be repainted in due course.
The plan, I am told, is to refurbish the interior of 6 VX62 Scanias which Gloucester currently operate to make them in line with the interior scheme of the new arrivals. VX62 CZT has already had this done and is back in service again. The remaining vehicles will be sent to Stroud to replace the VX09 vehicles, which (we expect) will be sent to Stagecoach South who are currently suffering a decker shortage.
The new vehicles will be in the yellow "long distance" or "specialist" scheme, with next stop announcements and high backed seats. They will be allocated to service 10, however expect to see them stray, particularly onto the 97/98. The VX62 batch of vehicles will be repainted in due course.
Glosbusspotter
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It could be that 15853/4/5/7/9 could receive the new seats. I’m sure we will find out when the YT21s arrive. Also been told by a reliable source that they are going to be distance. 15856 VX62CZD has been had new interior as well.
This appears to be very odd. I thought the 'distance' scheme was for coach type operations whereas the number 10 defiantly isn't a long distance or coach type operation. In this application it appears to be replacing the 'Gold' scheme which (going by previous announcements) had been dropped. I thought next stop announcements were a standard requirement now, or did that change? Vehicles straying from their correct allocation is just standrad practive with Gloucester depot!
cnjb8
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Yes the Gold scheme is being dropped. However whatever replaces it seems to vary from company to company!
Glosbusspotter
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It seems very weird to me. The 10 is a more local route as 2/3 of the route is in Gloucester so surely it would make sense to have them in local? It guess it's what the company decides in the end. Also, it would seem that most Forest routs are having local liveried vehicles on, will these be local or are the VX61/13s probably be distance too?
For a customer or potential customer, the gold brand looked like a high quality product unlike the local branding. If Stagecoach west think they’ve built up a loyal customer base on the routes between Gloucester and Cheltenham by having a distinct quality product then you can’t blame them for trying to continue to differentiate that from the run of the mill town services. I’m sure the new vehicles will have a really nice interior fit but from a potential new customer point of view there’s nothing to grab the attention if they just look like all the other assorted buses West own. Good for them if they don’t follow the corporate line because let’s be honest that new branding looks cheap, and everything appears filthy 10 minutes after leaving the depot... not the image to pull in new punters I would suggest!
Glosbusspotter
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https://www.facebook.com/groups/STAGECOACHWESTENTHUSIASTS/permalink/3112172172397772/ I have a photo here of YT21DVG At ADL Falkirk. If the link doesn’t work I’ll put the picture in here. This also confirms they are distance
cnjb8
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It's a private group
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15354 - YT21DVG
Seen in the yard at the Alexander Dennis factory in Camelon is Alexander Dennis Enviro 400MMC bodied Scania 15354 - YT21DVG. It is bound for Stagecoach West and carries the new Stagecoach Long Distance livery.
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A quick visit to Gloucester today to see the Gold deckers on the 10. At least two of the 10 branded ones were on the 10 route, plus (of course) an 97 branded one and (the wildcard) one of the ex Merseyside single deckers in the new livery. One of the missing 10 branded deckers was, as expected, performing on the 97!
It doesent matter how hard the marketing department try, it's all wasted if they haven't got the operations department on their side!
It doesent matter how hard the marketing department try, it's all wasted if they haven't got the operations department on their side!
Glosbusspotter
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Not really surprised Gloucester allocation is not really the best if I’m completely honest. The other day I saw 2 ex Merseyside E300s on the 10 within 30 secs. A YT21 will probably end up on the 97/98 within the first week
Some 10 running boards are allocated for gold deckers and some for Enviro 300s.
Glosbusspotter
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Got permission to post these. They are at Keltruck in Cheltenham. 15350 is at a testing facility in Bedford. 15351 and 15352 are these. 15353/4/5 are at Grayson’s in Birmingham for Fan Modifications. The next 3 are in Leyland, Lancashire and the rest are at ADL Falkirk.
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AmesthystFox
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Is there any idea of when they will be in service?
Glosbusspotter
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Not sure at the moment - maybe 2 weeks or so as they need to apply fleet numbers and program the Hanover displays.
That's never the problem - that can take days.
The issue currently is that all vehicles are not yet fit for passenger service and work is being done at Scania Cheltenham on fans I believe.
Then you have the problem of emptying out Gloucester which is already at full capacity and has far from enough room for 21 Scanias.