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SWR Repaints and Refurbishments

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Now the 458 stock is being retained how much extra time will SWR need to complete the repaints which seems to be progressively slow
 
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Goldfish62

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Now the 458 stock is being retained how much extra time will SWR need to complete the repaints which seems to be progressively slow
I would assume they'll be repainted by whichever contractor does the refurbishment.
 

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U.450081 was moved yesterday afternoon on 5Z52 17+20 NT/BM alongwith U.444011, believe 450081 is next in line
for repaint when U.450023 is released.
 

Dan15812

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Updated - 07/04/21


SWR Desiro Repaints:

444s

002, 003, 005, 006, 007, 011, 012, 014, 015, 016, 017, 018, 019, 021, 023, 024, 025*, 027, 029, 030, 031, 032, 037, 038 and 042 (24 units)(53% complete)

450s

006, 018, 020, 021, 023, 025, 027, 026, 036, 039, 043, 048, 056, 081*, 101, 107, 113, 119 and 127 (18 units)(14% complete)

Feel free to let me know of any more repainted Desiros


Note: (* = Currently being done)

444040 and 450111 have had vinyl wrap (not been painted)

**Unfortunately do not have the ability to edit the list when required. This means it may not show correct information. Please see latest post, for more up-to-date information on desiro repaints. Cheers.
 

444045

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U.444025 is off its repaint today and the diagram its on ends at Northam Depot this morning (with 444032).

U.444043 is at Bournemouth Depot - believe it is next in line for a repaint.
 

Dan15812

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U.444025 is off its repaint today and the diagram its on ends at Northam Depot this morning (with 444032).

U.444043 is at Bournemouth Depot - believe it is next in line for a repaint.
Updated list - 16/04/21


SWR Desiro Repaints:

444s

002, 003, 005, 006, 007, 011, 012, 014, 015, 016, 017, 018, 019, 021, 023, 024, 025, 027, 029, 030, 031, 032, 037, 038, 042 and 043* (25 units)(56% complete)

450s

006, 018, 020, 021, 023, 025, 027, 026, 036, 039, 043, 048, 056, 081*, 101, 107, 113, 119 and 127 (18 units)(14% complete)

Feel free to let me know of any more repainted Desiros


Note: (* = Currently being done)

444040 and 450111 have had vinyl wrap (not been painted)

**Unfortunately do not have the ability to edit the list when required. This means it may not show correct information. Please see latest post, for more up-to-date information on desiro repaints. Cheers.
 

444045

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Pleased to report that U.450081 has had its repaint, came out yesterday and is residing on the Lymington branch.

Believe that U.450024 has taken its place having been on Guards training unit at Bournemouth on Monday.
 

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Catch them whilst you can...
Considering that in running the franchise for over 3 & 1/2 years, SWR has managed to repaint just over half the 444s, one-seventh of the 450s, and (AFAIK) none of the 455s, 456s, or 458s, I don't think that any fans of the Stagecoach livery need to rush too much ;).

Meanwhile, of the replacement fleets being introduced in SWR livery, the 442s are abandoned and presumably going for scrap, and both the 484s and the 701s are delayed with no reliable timescale currently announced for their introduction.

It's a pretty dismal performance, though of course that's no surprise where SWR are concerned.
 

Goldfish62

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Considering that in running the franchise for over 3 & 1/2 years, SWR has managed to repaint just over half the 444s, one-seventh of the 450s, and (AFAIK) none of the 455s, 456s, or 458s, I don't think that any fans of the Stagecoach livery need to rush too much ;).

Meanwhile, of the replacement fleets being introduced in SWR livery, the 442s are abandoned and presumably going for scrap, and both the 484s and the 701s are delayed with no reliable timescale currently announced for their introduction.

It's a pretty dismal performance, though of course that's no surprise where SWR are concerned.
It's just an unfortunate (in the circumstances) coincidence that the in-house team at Bournemouth won the contract to do the repaints not long before Covid struck. As I recall they could not get up to speed immediately because of the need to use 444s and 450s to cover for the 442s.

They have therefore never been painting at the rate that they should have been in order to complete the repaint programme in the planned three years.

Of course, with so much rolling stock currently lying around now it would be an ideal opportunity to really blast through the repaints, but capacity and Covid restrictions will prevent this I guess. Sub-contracting some of the work may be the answer. Otherwise there's going to be a Forth Bridge situation where the earlier repaints need doing again before the last ones have been completed!
 
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Dan15812

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Updated list - 29/04/21


SWR Desiro Repaints:

444s

002, 003, 005, 006, 007, 011, 012, 014, 015, 016, 017, 018, 019, 021, 023, 024, 025, 027, 029, 030, 031, 032, 037, 038, 042 and 043* (25 units)(56% complete)

450s

006, 018, 020, 021, 023, 024*, 025, 027, 026, 036, 039, 043, 048, 056, 081, 101, 107, 113, 119 and 127 (19 units)(15% complete)

Feel free to let me know of any more repainted Desiros


Note: (* = Currently being done)

444040 and 450111 have had vinyl wrap (not been painted)

**Unfortunately do not have the ability to edit the list when required. This means it may not show correct information. Please see latest post, for more up-to-date information on desiro repaints. Cheers.
 

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U.444043 is off its repaint and back out in service today - coupled to U.444020 : Currently on -

1W52 0922 BMH/WAT
1W65 1200 WAT/BMH
1W62 1422 BMH/WAT
1W75 1700 WAT/BMH
5W75 19+09 BMH/XBM
 

Dan15812

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Updated list - 29/04/21


SWR Desiro Repaints:

444s

002, 003, 005, 006, 007, 011, 012, 014, 015, 016, 017, 018, 019, 020*, 021, 023, 024, 025, 027, 029, 030, 031, 032, 037, 038, 042 and 043 (26 units)(58% complete)

450s

006, 018, 020, 021, 023, 024*, 025, 027, 026, 036, 039, 043, 048, 056, 081, 101, 107, 113, 119 and 127 (19 units)(15% complete)

Feel free to let me know of any more repainted Desiros


Note: (* = Currently being done)

444040 and 450111 have had vinyl wrap (not been painted)

**Unfortunately do not have the ability to edit the list when required. This means it may not show correct information. Please see latest post, for more up-to-date information on desiro repaints. Cheers.
 

Nogoohwell

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Spent the day yesterday out about on the SWR network, I got to say the 444's look very good in their colours. The new paint scheme is really well designed with lots of nice subtle touches, the light blue stripe on tops of doors, the disabled and cycle storage indicators are great and the yellow stripe finishes it off nicely.

It looks like a really good paint job as well, it may be taking a while but they are worth it in my opinion.
 

SWRtrain_fan

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I agree the SWR livery is very nice, it has a very contemporary look to it and looks a lot better than the now worn-out SWT livery
 

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I agree the SWR livery is very nice, it has a very contemporary look to it and looks a lot better than the now worn-out SWT livery
Better than the dull looking vinyled striped version some of the diesel fleet is in
The 442s were painted but the shape of the roofs didn't go well with the livery as they were too plain in my opinion
 

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U.450024 off its repaint yesterday and changed over with the crew training unit U.450041 in platform 1 at Bournemouth and went Ecs to
Northam Depot for exam.
U.450041 believed to be next repaint unit.
 

Juniper Driver

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U.450024 off its repaint yesterday and changed over with the crew training unit U.450041 in platform 1 at Bournemouth and went Ecs to
Northam Depot for exam.
U.450041 believed to be next repaint unit.
I always look out for 450041…It failed on me once...
 

Dan15812

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Updated list - 14/05/21


SWR Desiro Repaints:

444s

002, 003, 005, 006, 007, 011, 012, 014, 015, 016, 017, 018, 019, 020*, 021, 023, 024, 025, 027, 029, 030, 031, 032, 037, 038, 042 and 043 (26 units)(58% complete)

450s

006, 018, 020, 021, 023, 024, 025, 026, 027, 036, 039, 041*, 043, 048, 056, 081, 101, 107, 113, 119 and 127 (20 units)(16% complete)

Feel free to let me know of any more repainted Desiros


Note: (* = Currently being done)

444040 and 450111 have had vinyl wrap (not been painted)

**Unfortunately do not have the ability to edit the list when required. This means it may not show correct information. Please see latest post, for more up-to-date information on desiro repaints. Cheers.
 

444045

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U.444020 off its repaint today and back into traffic service coupled to U.444026 on following services :

1B14 0500 Poole to Waterloo
1B55 0735 Waterloo to Poole
1B12 1041 Poole to Waterloo
1B27 1335 Waterloo to Poole
1B32 1641 Poole to Waterloo
1T61 1909 Waterloo to Ports Hbr via EH.
 

Dan15812

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Updated list - 25/05/21 - Plans have changed slightly to focus on the 450's for the next few mouths.


SWR Desiro Repaints:

444s

002, 003, 005, 006, 007, 011, 012, 014, 015, 016, 017, 018, 019, 020, 021, 023, 024, 025, 027, 029, 030, 031, 032, 037, 038, 042 and 043 (27 units)(60% complete)

450s

006, 018, 020, 021, 023, 024, 025, 026, 027, 033*, 036, 039, 041*, 043, 048, 056, 081, 101, 107, 113, 119 and 127 (20 units)(16% complete)

Feel free to let me know of any more repainted Desiros


Note: (* = Currently being done)

444040 and 450111 have had vinyl wrap (not been painted)

**Unfortunately do not have the ability to edit the list when required. This means it may not show correct information. Please see latest post, for more up-to-date information on desiro repaints. Cheers.

Did SWR originally intend to paint the stripes on?
I suspect if there were all to have the original livery with stripes, they would have probably had a plain grey undercoat (painted). With striped Vinyls over the top. A bit like the LNR livery on 350/1 fleet.
 
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444045

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U.450041 was back in traffic service Sat after its repaint on Poole to Winchester shuttle services.

Believe that U.450015 has taken its place as next paint job.
 

Dan15812

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SWR Desiro Repaints:

444s

002, 003, 005, 006, 007, 011, 012, 014, 015, 016, 017, 018, 019, 020, 021, 023, 024, 025, 027, 029, 030, 031, 032, 037, 038, 042 and 043 (27 units)(60% complete)

450s

006, 015*, 018, 020, 021, 023, 024, 025, 026, 027, 033, 036, 038*, 039, 041, 043, 048, 056, 081, 101, 107, 113, 119 and 127 (22 units)(17% complete)

Feel free to let me know of any more repainted Desiros


Note: (* = Currently being done)

444040 and 450111 have had vinyl wrap (not been painted)
 
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444045

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Pleased to say that U.450033 is off its repaint and can be found on the Bournemouth to Winchester shuttles today, tomorrow should be
on the Lymington Branch. U.450038 has taken its place as @Dan15812 stated on Monday.

U.450033 working today :

2B19 09 49 Winchester to Bournemouth.
2B44 12 05 Bournemouth to Winchester.
2B35 13 49 Winchester to Bournemouth.
2B60 16 05 Bournemouth to Winchester.
2B93 17 44 Winchester to Southampton.
5Y08 19+14 Southampton to Woking (Hav) (Dvr/Gd route refresher).
5Y03 21+37 Woking to Bournemouth (Hav) ----------'----------------
 

Dan15812

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Pleased to say that U.450033 is off its repaint and can be found on the Bournemouth to Winchester shuttles today, tomorrow should be
on the Lymington Branch. U.450038 has taken its place as @Dan15812 stated on Monday.

U.450033 working today :

2B19 09 49 Winchester to Bournemouth.
2B44 12 05 Bournemouth to Winchester.
2B35 13 49 Winchester to Bournemouth.
2B60 16 05 Bournemouth to Winchester.
2B93 17 44 Winchester to Southampton.
5Y08 19+14 Southampton to Woking (Hav) (Dvr/Gd route refresher).
5Y03 21+37 Woking to Bournemouth (Hav) ----------'----------------
Cheers! thanks for the gen @444045
 

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