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Philip

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I thought I'd create this thread so that we can report the progress of the Wales and Border classes 150, 153, 158 and 175 receiving the new TfW livery.

As far as I know, we're currently at 175003 and 175107 having been done. If anyone would like to add any others which are now sporting the new livery or are in the process of it being applied please?
 
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TfW Rail Livery / Fleet List

Current multiple units leaving by 31/7/2020:

15x Class 142 Pacer 2-car (BRE-Leyland 1985-87)

142002 The Start of a New Journey
142006 The Start of a New Journey
142010 The Start of a New Journey
142069 The Start of a New Journey
142072 The Start of a New Journey
142073 The Start of a New Journey
142074 The Start of a New Journey
142075 The Start of a New Journey
142076 The Start of a New Journey
142077 The Start of a New Journey
142080 The Start of a New Journey
142081 The Start of a New Journey
142082 The Start of a New Journey
142083 The Start of a New Journey
142085 The Start of a New Journey

Plus 3x parts units:

142012 Northern Rail (delivered on 15/12/19)
142079 Northern Rail (delivered on 15/12/19)
142086 Northern Rail (delivered on 15/12/19)

15x Class 143 Pacer 2-car (Barclay-Alexander 1985-86)

143601 The Journey is Almost Over for Old Trains
143602 The Start of a New Journey
143604 The Start of a New Journey
143605 These Trains will Terminate Soon
143606 These Trains will Terminate Soon
143607 The Start of a New Journey
143608 The Journey is Almost Over for Old Trains

143609 The Start of a New Journey
143610 The Journey is Almost Over for Old Trains
143614 The Journey is Almost Over for Old Trains

143616 These Trains will Terminate Soon
143622 These Trains will Terminate Soon
143623 These Trains will Terminate Soon
143624 The Journey is Almost Over for Old Trains
143625 The Start of a New Journey

Current multiple units leaving by 31/12/2020:

9x Class 153 Super Sprinter 1-car (Leyland 1987-88, Hunslet-Barclay 1991-92)

153306 Greater Anglia with TfW W&B logos 1/20 (delivered on 3/12/19)
153309 Greater Anglia
(delivered on 2/12/19)
153310 East Midlands Trains (delivered on 17/1/20)
153313 East Midlands Trains (delivered on 17/1/20)
153314 Greater Anglia
(delivered on 2/12/19, entered service on 27/1/20)
153321 East Midlands Trains (delivered on 27/01/20)
153322 Greater Anglia with TfW W&B logos 1/20 (delivered on 2/12/19, entered service on 27/1/20)
153326 East Midlands Trains (delivered on 17/1/20)
153335 Greater Anglia
(delivered on 3/12/19)

Current multiple units leaving in 2022-23:

36x Class 150/2 Sprinter 2-car (BREL York 1986-87)
(unmodified units to be PRM modified by 31/7/2020)

150208 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM 12/19, WSP fitted
150213 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM 12/19
150217 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM 5/19,
WSP fitted
150227 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise, WSP fitted
150229 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM 6/19, WSP fitted
150230 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise, WSP fitted
150231 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise, WSP fitted
150235 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise, WSP fitted
150236 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM 8/19, WSP fitted
150237 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise (HoW 150th), WSP fitted
150240 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM 8/19, WSP fitted
150241 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM 6/19, WSP fitted
150242 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise (HoW 150th) & PRM 5/19, WSP fitted
150245 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise, original passenger door controls
150250 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM 9/19, WSP fitted
150251 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise, WSP fitted
150252 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM 1/20, WSP fitted
150253 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM 3/19, WSP fitted
150254 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM 5/19, WSP fitted
150255 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise, WSP fitted
150256 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise (in works 12/19), WSP fitted
150257 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM 3/19, WSP fitted
150258 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM 9/19, WSP fitted
150259 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM 9/19, WSP fitted
150260 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM 11/19, WSP fitted
150262 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM 10/19
150264 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise (corrosion repair and re-application, no stripes) & PRM 8/19,
WSP fitted
150267 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM 10/19, WSP fitted
150278 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise, WSP fitted
150279 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise, WSP fitted
150280 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise (in works late 2019), WSP fitted
150281 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise, WSP fitted
150282 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM 12/19, WSP fitted
150283 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM 11/19, WSP fitted
150284 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise (corrosion repair and re-application, no stripes) & PRM 2/19, WSP fitted
150285 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise (corrosion repair and re-application, no stripes) & PRM 1/19, WSP fitted

13x Class 153 Super Sprinter 1-car (Leyland 1987-88, Hunslet-Barclay 1991-92)
(unmodified units to be PRM modified by 31/12/2020)

153303 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise
153312 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise
153320 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior and PRM 12/19, WSP fitted
153323 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior and PRM 10/19, WSP fitted
153325 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior and PRM 10/19, WSP fitted (delivered on 1/4/19, entered service on 21/10/19)
153327 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise
153329 First Great Western with TfW Rail W&B logos 5/19 (in works 1/20) (delivered on 1/4/19, entered service in 5/19)
153333 TfW Rail W&B Livery 5/19, TfW Rail refurb interior and PRM 1/20, WSP fitted (delivered on 1/4/19, entered service in 5/19)
153353 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise
153361 First Great Western with TfW Rail W&B logos 5/19 (delivered on 1/4/19, entered service in 5/19)
153362 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise
153367 Arriva Original Teal & Cream (in works 12/19)
153369 First Great Western with TfW Rail W&B logos 5/19 (delivered on 1/4/19, entered service in 5/19)

24x Class 158/0 Express Sprinter 2-car (BREL Derby 1990-91)

158818 TfW Rail W&B Livery 7/19, ATW refurb interior 10/12 & PRM 10/18
158819 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise 9/12 & PRM 9/18
158820 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise 7/11 & PRM 11/19

158821 TfW Rail W&B Livery 11/19, ATW refurb interior 6/11 & PRM 11/19
158822 TfW Rail W&B Livery 5/19,
ATW refurb interior 11/11 & PRM 8/18
158823 TfW Rail W&B Livery 10/19,
ATW refurb interior 9/12 & PRM 10/18
158824 TfW Rail W&B Livery 11/19
, ATW refurb interior 2/12 & PRM 6/19
158825 TfW Rail W&B Livery 5/19,
ATW refurb interior 2/12 & PRM 5/19
158826 TfW Rail W&B Livery 2/19,
ATW refurb interior 7/12 & PRM 12/18
158827 TfW Rail W&B Livery 10/19,
ATW refurb interior 8/11 & PRM 10/19
158828 TfW Rail W&B Livery 6/19,
ATW refurb interior 1/12 & PRM 6/19
158829 TfW Rail W&B Livery 9/19,
ATW refurb interior 8/12 & PRM 11/18
158830 TfW Rail W&B Livery 3/19,
ATW refurb interior 5/12 & PRM 3/19
158831 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise 3/12 & PRM 8/18
158832 TfW Rail W&B Livery 7/19, ATW refurb interior 12/11 & PRM 7/19
158833 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise 9/11 & PRM 12/19
158834 TfW Rail W&B Livery 8/19, ATW refurb interior 10/11 & PRM 8/19 (Voith DIWARail gearboxes fitted in 2015)
158835 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise 7/12 & PRM 3/19
158836 TfW Rail W&B Livery 3/19, ATW refurb interior 6/12 & PRM 2/19
158837 TfW Rail W&B Livery 8/19,
ATW refurb interior 10/11 & PRM 8/19
158838 TfW Rail W&B Livery 10/19,
ATW refurb interior 5/11 & PRM 10/19
158839 TfW Rail W&B Livery 3/19,
ATW refurb interior 4/12 & PRM 3/19
158840 TfW Rail W&B Livery 12/19,
ATW refurb interior 3/11 & PRM 1/19
158841 TfW Rail W&B Livery 5/19,
ATW refurb interior 4/12 & PRM 5/19

11x Class 175/0 Coradia 2-car (Alstom Birmingham 1999-2001)

175001 TfW Rail W&B Livery & TfW Rail refurb interior 10/19 & PRM
175002 TfW Rail W&B Livery & TfW Rail refurb interior 7/19 & PRM
175003 TfW Rail Livery 10/18 & added W&B logos 6/19 & PRM

175004 Arriva Original Teal & Cream & PRM
175005 Arriva Original Teal & Cream & PRM

175006 TfW Rail W&B Livery & TfW Rail refurb interior 8/19 & PRM
175007 Arriva Original Teal & Cream & PRM
175008 Arriva Original Teal & Cream & PRM

175009 TfW Rail W&B Livery & TfW Rail refurb interior 12/19 & PRM
175010 TfW Rail W&B Livery & TfW Rail refurb interior 1/20 & PRM
175011 TfW Rail W&B Livery & TfW Rail refurb interior 8/19 & PRM


16x Class 175/1 Coradia 3-car (Alstom Birmingham 1999-2001)

175101 Arriva Original Teal & Cream & PRM
175102 Arriva Original Teal & Cream & PRM
175103 Arriva Original Teal & Cream & PRM
175104 Arriva Original Teal & Cream & PRM
175105 Arriva Original Teal & Cream & PRM
175106 Arriva Original Teal & Cream & PRM

175107 TfW Rail Livery 10/18 & added W&B logos 11/19 & PRM
175108 Arriva Original Teal & Cream & PRM
175109 Arriva Original Teal & Cream & PRM
175110 Arriva Original Teal & Cream & PRM
175111 Arriva Original Teal & Cream & PRM
175112 Arriva Original Teal & Cream & PRM
175113 Arriva Original Teal & Cream & PRM
175114 Arriva Original Teal & Cream & PRM
175115 Arriva Original Teal & Cream & PRM
175116 Arriva Original Teal & Cream & PRM

3x Class 769/0 Flex 4-car (BREL York 1987-88, Brush Traction 2019-20)

769002 Thameslink & PRM (delivered on 14/3/19)
769006 Thameslink & PRM (delivered on 4/12/19)
769008 TfW Rail W&B Livery 8/19 & PRM (delivered on 15/5/19)

Current multiple units staying for franchise duration:

3x Class 170/2 Turbostar 2-car (Bombardier Derby 2002)

170270 Greater Anglia with TfW W&B logos & PRM (delivered on 11/9/19, entered service on 27/1/20)

170272 Greater Anglia with TfW W&B logos & PRM (delivered on 23/9/19, entered service on 13/12/19)
170273 Greater Anglia with TfW W&B logos & PRM (delivered on 12/11/19, entered service on 16/12/19)

8x Class 170/2 Turbostar 3-car (ADtranz Derby 1999)

170201 Greater Anglia with TfW W&B logos & PRM (delivered on 6/12/19, entered service on 16/12/19)
170202 Greater Anglia with TfW W&B logos & PRM (delivered on 27/11/19, entered service on 12/12/19)
170203 Greater Anglia with TfW W&B logos & PRM (delivered on 12/12/19, entered service on 20/12/19)
170204 Greater Anglia & PRM (delivered on 13/12/19, entered service on 10/1/20)
170205 Greater Anglia with TfW W&B logos & PRM (delivered on 7/1/20, entered service on 16/1/20)
170206 Greater Anglia & PRM (delivered on 19/11/19)
170207 Greater Anglia with TfW W&B logos & PRM (delivered on 1/9/19, entered service on 16/12/19)
170208 Greater Anglia with TfW W&B logos & PRM (delivered on 6/12/19, entered service on 16/12/19)

Multiple units arriving in 2020:
(170 and 230s to stay for franchise duration, 769s to be withdrawn in 2022-23)

1x Class 170/2 Turbostar 2-car (Bombardier Derby 2002)

170271 Greater Anglia & PRM

5x Class 230 D-Train 3-car (Metro-Cammell 1978-81, Vivarail 2019-20)

230006 TfW Rail W&B Livery & PRM
230007 TfW Rail W&B Livery & PRM
230008 TfW Rail W&B Livery & PRM
230009 TfW Rail W&B Livery & PRM
230010 TfW Rail W&B Livery & PRM


2x Class 769/0 Flex 4-car (BREL York 1987-88, Brush Traction 2019-20)

769003 Thameslink & PRM
769007 Thameslink & PRM


4x Class 769/4 Flex 4-car (BREL York 1987-88, Brush Traction 2019-20)

769426 Thameslink & PRM
7694xx Thameslink & PRM
7694xx Thameslink & PRM
7694xx Thameslink & PRM


Locomotive-hauled coaching stock:

(3 Class 37 locomotives and 10 Mark 2 carriages are on hire until 30/6/2020 at the latest)

The Mark 3 carriages and Mark 3 DVTs are in “Arriva Refurbished Turquoise” livery with TfW Rail logos on the carriages; and are due to be replaced by Mark 4 carriages and Mark 4 DVTs by 30/6/2020. The motive power, after necessary modifications, will continue to be provided by Class 67s.

Ex-LNER Mark 4 stock (re-liveried only)

Former BN23 vehicles - carriages 11323/10325/12454/12225 and DVT 82226 (in works 10/19)

Former BN24 vehicles - carriages 11324/10328/12447/12219 and DVT 82229 (in works 10/19)

Former BN25 vehicles - carriages 11325/10312/12446/12217 and DVT 82216 (in works 11/19)

Class 67 locomotives (re-liveried only)

67025 in TfW colours 10/19

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Multiple units arriving in 2022-23:
(to be built in the early 2020s)

51x Class 197/x Civity 2-car (CAF Newport 202x-202x)

197x01 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x02 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x03 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x04 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x05 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x06 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x07 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x08 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x09 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x10 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x11 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x12 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x13 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x14 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x15 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x16 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x17 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x18 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x19 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x20 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x21 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x22 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x23 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x24 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x25 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x26 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x27 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x28 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x29 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x30 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x31 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x32 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x33 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x34 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x35 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x36 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x37 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x38 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x39 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x40 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x41 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x42 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x43 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x44 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x45 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x46 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x47 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x48 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x49 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x50 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x51 TfW W&B Livery & PRM

26x Class 197/x Civity 3-car (CAF Newport 202x-202x)

197x01 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x02 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x03 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x04 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x05 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x06 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x07 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x08 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x09 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x10 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x11 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x12 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x13 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x14 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x15 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x16 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x17 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x18 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x19 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x20 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x21 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x22 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x23 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x24 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x25 TfW W&B Livery & PRM
197x26 TfW W&B Livery & PRM

11x Class 231 FLIRT 4-car (Stadler Bussnang 202x-202x)

231x01 TfW Livery & PRM
231x02 TfW Livery & PRM
231x03 TfW Livery & PRM
231x04 TfW Livery & PRM
231x05 TfW Livery & PRM
231x06 TfW Livery & PRM
231x07 TfW Livery & PRM
231x08 TfW Livery & PRM
231x09 TfW Livery & PRM
231x10 TfW Livery & PRM
231x11 TfW Livery & PRM

36x Class 398 Citylink 3-car (Stadler Bussnang 202x-202x)

398x01 TfW Metro Livery & PRM
398x02 TfW Metro Livery & PRM
398x03 TfW Metro Livery & PRM
398x04 TfW Metro Livery & PRM
398x05 TfW Metro Livery & PRM
398x06 TfW Metro Livery & PRM
398x07 TfW Metro Livery & PRM
398x08 TfW Metro Livery & PRM
398x09 TfW Metro Livery & PRM
398x10 TfW Metro Livery & PRM
398x11 TfW Metro Livery & PRM
398x12 TfW Metro Livery & PRM
398x13 TfW Metro Livery & PRM
398x14 TfW Metro Livery & PRM
398x15 TfW Metro Livery & PRM
398x16 TfW Metro Livery & PRM
398x17 TfW Metro Livery & PRM
398x18 TfW Metro Livery & PRM
398x19 TfW Metro Livery & PRM
398x20 TfW Metro Livery & PRM
398x21 TfW Metro Livery & PRM
398x22 TfW Metro Livery & PRM
398x23 TfW Metro Livery & PRM
398x24 TfW Metro Livery & PRM
398x25 TfW Metro Livery & PRM
398x26 TfW Metro Livery & PRM
398x27 TfW Metro Livery & PRM
398x28 TfW Metro Livery & PRM
398x29 TfW Metro Livery & PRM
398x30 TfW Metro Livery & PRM
398x31 TfW Metro Livery & PRM
398x32 TfW Metro Livery & PRM
398x33 TfW Metro Livery & PRM
398x34 TfW Metro Livery & PRM
398x35 TfW Metro Livery & PRM
398x36 TfW Metro Livery & PRM

7x Class 756/x FLIRT 3-car (Stadler Bussnang 202x-202x)

756x01 TfW Metro Livery & PRM
756x02 TfW Metro Livery & PRM
756x03 TfW Metro Livery & PRM
756x04 TfW Metro Livery & PRM
756x05 TfW Metro Livery & PRM
756x06 TfW Metro Livery & PRM
756x07 TfW Metro Livery & PRM

17x Class 756/x FLIRT 4-car (Stadler Bussnang 202x-202x)

756x01 TfW Metro Livery & PRM
756x02 TfW Metro Livery & PRM
756x03 TfW Metro Livery & PRM
756x04 TfW Metro Livery & PRM
756x05 TfW Metro Livery & PRM
756x06 TfW Metro Livery & PRM
756x07 TfW Metro Livery & PRM
756x08 TfW Metro Livery & PRM
756x09 TfW Metro Livery & PRM
756x10 TfW Metro Livery & PRM
756x11 TfW Metro Livery & PRM
756x12 TfW Metro Livery & PRM
756x13 TfW Metro Livery & PRM
756x14 TfW Metro Livery & PRM
756x15 TfW Metro Livery & PRM
756x16 TfW Metro Livery & PRM
756x17 TfW Metro Livery & PRM


Glossary of acronyms:

TfW – Transport for Wales
BRE – British Rail Engineering
BREL – British Rail Engineering Limited
PRM – Persons with Reduced Mobility modifications
HoW – Heart of Wales
WSP – Wheel Slip Protection
GA - Greater Anglia
W&B – Wales and Borders
ATW – Arriva Trains Wales
DVT - Driving Van Trailer
LNER - London North Eastern Railway
CAF - Construcciones y Auxiliar de Ferrocarriles
FLIRT - Fast Light Intercity and Regional Train
 
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I know the whole diesel fleet will leave eventually but won't the 175s and 158s be refurbished in the meantime?

Arriva haven't invested in the interiors of any trains they have run

Crosscountry are a disgrace well over a decade on they still have a virgin trains interior
 

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I know the whole diesel fleet will leave eventually but won't the 175s and 158s be refurbished in the meantime?

Arriva haven't invested in the interiors of any trains they have run
The 158s were refurbished throughout under ATW when they were fitted with ERTMS equipment, so aren't due for any more work.

I don't think TfW will refurbish the interiors of the 175s: the seat covers and carpets were replaced not long ago, and they won't be kept for long enough to warrant such expenditure. I'd suggest it's a job for the next leaser, so they can choose the fittings. (Or the fleet may just end up off lease!)
 

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There was a picture a week or so ago of 175010 in the depot in the process of receiving the new vinyls, is it back out in traffic in the new colours now?
 

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There was a picture a week or so ago of 175010 in the depot in the process of receiving the new vinyls, is it back out in traffic in the new colours now?

It'll be arriving in Piccadilly shortly, before working the 7:30 to Carmarthen. No idea what colour it is though
 

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I don't know if they are having a full refurb, but they are having charging points or sockets fitted
I'd forgotten that detail, thank you. (Power sockets at 95% of the W&B fleet by 2020.) I doubt they'll get much more than that done to them.
 
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The 158s were refurbished throughout under ATW when they were fitted with ERTMS equipment, so aren't due for any more work.

I don't think TfW will refurbish the interiors of the 175s: the seat covers and carpets were replaced not long ago, and they won't be kept for long enough to warrant such expenditure. I'd suggest it's a job for the next leaser, so they can choose the fittings. (Or the fleet may just end up off lease!)

158s are currently being fitted with CET Tanks.
 

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158s are currently being fitted with CET Tanks.
Eek, I seem to be having to add more and more qualifiers to my earlier over-reaching statement! :s

The CET will involve work below the solebar, but will passengers notice any difference in the cubicles?
 

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150s will get the new livery with a full refurbishment as they're here for the longest.
 

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The 158s were refurbished throughout under ATW when they were fitted with ERTMS equipment, so aren't due for any more work.

I don't think TfW will refurbish the interiors of the 175s: the seat covers and carpets were replaced not long ago, and they won't be kept for long enough to warrant such expenditure. I'd suggest it's a job for the next leaser, so they can choose the fittings. (Or the fleet may just end up off lease!)

ERTMS was installed before the refurbishment. There wasn't much of a gap, but there were unrefurbished 158s running along the Cambrian after the introduction of ERTMS.

As my colleague mentioned, the 175s are getting power points fitted. Hopefully they'll have an internal refresh at the same time - even the reupholstered seats are looking tired and the vestibules in particular are rather rattly and unpleasant. There's still a lot of First Group purple that needs eradication as well.

The 158s are due to get work done on them as well. More sockets will be fitted (at present they are only at tables) and the Aircon is getting looked at


There was a picture a week or so ago of 175010 in the depot in the process of receiving the new vinyls, is it back out in traffic in the new colours now?

That was actually 107, it just confused people as only the numbers 1 and 0 were showing.


Eek, I seem to be having to add more and more qualifiers to my earlier over-reaching statement! :s

The CET will involve work below the solebar, but will passengers notice any difference in the cubicles?

The toilets themselves are being replaced - they are now made of a shiny metal (I'm assuming stainless steel) and look much better then the old corroded and stained ones that were very unpleasant.
 

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Nope I saw something stating "class 150s will be completely refurbished with a new livery , lcd screens and wheelchair spaces"
If you happen to remember where you'd seen it, please let us know, as I can only recall conversations here that inferred the 150s would be most likely to be reliveried as they will be here longest.
 

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If you happen to remember where you'd seen it, please let us know, as I can only recall conversations here that inferred the 150s would be most likely to be reliveried as they will be here longest.
I swear it said there was gonna be a full refurbishment and there's definitely gonna be lcd screens and a wheelchair area and it said something about starting in 2019 It may've been a twitter post.
 

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I swear it said there was gonna be a full refurbishment and there's definitely gonna be lcd screens and a wheelchair area and it said something about starting in 2019 It may've been a twitter post.
I don't doubt you or that it's going to happen (the LCD screens and wheelchair space are a given as they're required PRM modifications), it's just that I've not seen anything official stating the relivery work.
 

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There's a hint of irony that after years of DB operation, Welsh trains are finally receiving what looks like DB Express livery under different stewardship.
 

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There is one vehicle from a 158 at Bristol Barton Hill at present in a white with red doors base livery.

I know that Barton Hill have been responsible for turning the GWR 158s green, but given the colours on this one I wonder whether it is a TfW example?
 

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There is one vehicle from a 158 at Bristol Barton Hill at present in a white with red doors base livery.

I know that Barton Hill have been responsible for turning the GWR 158s green, but given the colours on this one I wonder whether it is a TfW example?
Definitely red, or could it be EMT orange? Quite similar liveries, so always good to be sure. :)
 

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Definitely red, or could it be EMT orange? Quite similar liveries, so always good to be sure. :)

Good question, and now I'm not so sure... it is at the stage where it could be the base coat for EMT livery, but I didn't think they had any reason to repaint theirs?
 

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I'll consider myself educated - false alarm, apologies all :oops::lol:
 

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Amendments made.

If you find out of any more alterations, refurbishments or repaints to the TFW fleet, please feel free to list them on the thread here.

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