ASharpe
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I don't even think he's moving his eyes side to side to read a script. Very creepy.Agreed, I was expecting him to fire lasers from his eyes.
I don't even think he's moving his eyes side to side to read a script. Very creepy.Agreed, I was expecting him to fire lasers from his eyes.
Surely there is no difference in lost capacity if the first aiders treat somebody in a waiting area rather than a car park. They still have to stop vaccinating, give first aid and probably stay with them until an ambulance arrives.I believe that analysis, but a friend volunteering at the local vaccination centre told me that the 15 minute wait was also introduced because they were having a very small number of incidents with people suffering shock reactions heading to the car park, and losing capacity as first aiders had to step away from vaccination to treating them.
They found otherwise - I think mostly because of the disruption compared with having people observing those waiting and being ready for them.Surely there is no difference in lost capacity if the first aiders treat somebody in a waiting area rather than a car park. They still have to stop vaccinating, give first aid and probably stay with them until an ambulance arrives.
I find it insane that the rest of Europe (and the world) seems to manage to generate static PDFs valid for 6/9/12 months for vaccine passes/certificates and has apps that allow them to be displayed instantly without an internet connection, while Brits are still expected to visit a website through an app, that then doesn't work when you need it most.Tried to access my vaccine pass on the nhs app tonight to check in for a flight.
I was put in a queue to get to the covid pass section of the app due to high demand.
I find it insane that the rest of Europe (and the world) seems to manage to generate static PDFs valid for 6/9/12 months for vaccine passes/certificates and has apps that allow them to be displayed instantly without an internet connection, while Brits are still expected to visit a website through an app, that then doesn't work when you need it most.
While most of the above mentioned apps are open-source...
But that isn't true is it.while Brits are still expected to visit a website through an app, that then doesn't work when you need it most.
But why should you need to go to an unreliable website in the first place? And why are the static versions only valid for 30 days?But that isn't true is it.
The website and app do let you generate a static PDF that you can download and use offline, and as mentioned above iPhones and Android phones have a button in the app to let you add the QR code to the Apple Wallet or Google Pay. Or you can always just take a screenshot of the app, or hell you can even get a paper copy and scan it if you wish.
But why should you need to go to an unreliable website in the first place? And why are the static versions only valid for 30 days?
Probably the main reason for the 30 days is that it's so you can use a positive case as your pass, as they wouldn't renew as it gets close to the then of the time period.
That is what they did when we were in Holland, we had paper certificates in case, but they just scanned the QR code screenshot on the phone and up came a green tick on their tablet / ipad.As it's a QR based system it should be possible to view the QR code on your phone and take a screen shot of it, then it's likely to be up to the venue you are attending to have internet to check the status.
I believe the booster dose i very beneficial so i will be having it as soon as possible.
A fantastic achievement and the figure is continuing to grow at a staggering rate.Over 50% of the eligible population for vaccinations has received a booster/3rd dose now.
To answer that it would be useful to know when @greyman42 was given their 1st/2nd doses (if they wish to divulge that). Virologists I listen to think that two doses is all we really need for long term effectiveness against severe symptoms but to get the best effectiveness they should be much further apart (potentially around 6 months) and the booster now is, more than anything else, making up for the gap being too short between 1st & 2nd doses (but it is understandable why the gap was shorter, in order to boost immunity in the shorter term)How will it be beneficial? Specifically why is it beneficial to have it as soon as possible as opposed to in a few months/years (assuming you’re not elderly/high risk)? Is there any scientific basis for saying that, or just based on yet more propaganda?
Out of interest what was your gap between 1st/2nd doses (if you don't mind divulging)? The longer the better for efficacy. I think you probably won't need a booster vaccine dose as there'd be no point doing so for a few months and by then the urgency of the current situation won't be there; a natural exposure to the virus will give you a booster anyway.I only got around to my second-first jab (if that makes sense) a few days ago. Chiefly because, the more hysteria there is in the media, the less I’m inclined to play along with anything covid related. I certainly don’t intend to have any boosters. As I understand it there’s no real benefit to them, unless you’re elderly/high risk.
Over 50% of the eligible population for vaccinations has received a booster/3rd dose now.
Virologists I listen to think that two doses is all we really need for long term effectiveness against severe symptoms but to get the best effectiveness they should be much further apart (potentially around 6 months) and the booster now is, more than anything else, making up for the gap being too short between 1st & 2nd doses (but it is understandable why the gap was shorter, in order to boost immunity in the shorter term)
Out of interest what was your gap between 1st/2nd doses? I think you probably won't need a booster vaccine dose as there'd be no point doing so for a few months and by then the urgency of the current situation won't be there; a natural exposure to the virus will give you a booster anyway.
First dose - 14 MarchTo answer that it would be useful to know when @greyman42 was given their 1st/2nd doses (if they wish to divulge that). Virologists I listen to think that two doses is all we really need for long term effectiveness against severe symptoms but to get the best effectiveness they should be much further apart (potentially around 6 months) and the booster now is, more than anything else, making up for the gap being too short between 1st & 2nd doses (but it is understandable why the gap was shorter, in order to boost immunity in the shorter term)
Another reason for boosters being issued now is to reduce transmission; arguably this is not a sustainable strategy in the long term but for this winter I can understand it.
Excellent news on over 50% of over 11s (12th birthday is threshold)
Someone remind me in January to ask some Year 7s if any of them got vaccinated as a birthday presentExcellent news on over 50% of over 11s (12th birthday is threshold)
So a gap of around 3 1/2 months, which is a good length to have and possibly not far off the optimal length; leaving it any longer would be unwise due to the current situation, but yes based on what I've read and given your age & fitness ensure you are not in any risk group I'd say there should be no need for a booster dose.My first dose was early September, and only then because I was visiting a vulnerable relative and basically guilt tripped into it.
Yes the messaging has been appalling.I completely understand why people reject the vaccine; not because they’re “anti vaxxers”, simply because the pressure to do something they’re ambivalent about makes them want to dig in and go the other way.
In your case I think it was very wise to get the booster; your gap was little more than 2 months which is a bit less than what is now believed to be optimal; it was also quite some time ago now since you had a dose and I suspect your age profile means you are going to be at greater risk than @43066 so my opinion is you made a good choice. This is especially so if you had the AZ vaccine originally; not because AZ isn't as good (I reject claims on that basis, at least until more data becomes available) but because of the increase in efficacy by combining vaccine types (viral vector + mRNA).First dose - 14 March
Second dose - 23 May
Booster - 2 December.
Mine was Friday. I booked mine as late as possible and was asked how long I'd queued. I said about 10mins. I was told the queueing time was about an hour around lunchtime.Just to add my own experience of getting a (Moderna) booster on "Record Saturday" - I went to Centre Court Wimbledon for a walk-up but was kept waiting in a queue for over an hour before making it though the door, and getting on for two hours from joining the queue before walking out (without the wait)! Quite annoying to watch the booked line keep marching in whilst my line moved forward one position every 10 minutes or so until inside. No ill effects to speak of other than a sore arm.
It's potentially both these things, depending on the individual concerned and the gap between the various doses.Indeed, it's possibly best to think of the booster campaign as an exercise in quickly & safely increasing antibody levels (particularly for the young-ish & healthy) than a 'proper' long-term immunity exercise, though 'correcting' the dosing regime to a longer one is a factor as you point out
True; the figures on the dashboard all relate to over 12s, so if you were to limit it to eligible people then the percentage would of course go up even further beyond the already impressive figure of 50%.Boosters are 18+ for the general population, or 16+ if you have (/live with someone with) a health condition that puts you(/them) at risk from Covid (at least in England). 12-15 year olds have been allowed to get a second dose since around the same time the booster program kicked off, whilst (all other) 16-18 year olds remain on 2 and done.
I'd say both of you should have good protection at this point (but I'd like to remind @43066 that it will be 1 week before the vaccine starts to have a detectable effect, and 3 weeks in total before the full benefit is realised).
I booked mine as late as possible and was asked how long I'd queued. I said about 10mins. I was told the queueing time was about an hour around lunchtime.
I felt pretty unwell after the first dose; 2nd dose was definitely much better but still noticeable; 3rd dose was far better and barely anything other than, as you say, a sore arm. My arm did feel even more sore after the 3rd than previous doses. I don't know if it was related to the fact I previously had AZ (viral vector) but my 3rd was Moderna (mRNA).
True; the figures on the dashboard all relate to over 12s, so if you were to limit it to eligible people then the percentage would of course go up even further beyond the already impressive figure of 50%.
So they do! That's surprisingly disappointing! By my estimate it comes it at around 53% of the eligible population having taken up a booster
I wasn't aware that "jumping" was so objectionable?It's been reported on the BBC this morning that 16% of Footballers are unvaccinated, to me this is an insult, they act as if COVID19 doesn't exist, jumping all over each other and spitting on the pitch.
Should they be forced to have vaccinations or face instant dismissal?