theironroad
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There was one that if not exactly 4 hrs from EUS to gLc was very close,. Think it left eus at 1630 and only stopped at Preston (crew change).
Used it a few times but can't remember how long it ran before being removed. This would have been post pendolino, can't remember the years though.
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I was a regular user of the sleeper West Highland and lowlander to Glasgow until I retired in 2019.
It was very noticeable how passenger numbers on the Glasgow portion declined (especially Southbound)once the West Coast Modernisation was completed.
The West Coast modernisation meant for me that it was possible to get home to Romney Marsh off the mid day train from the West Highland Stations for the first time or from Helensburgh at around 3 pm.
Even pre-covid there wasn't any 4 hour trains to London from Glasgow if you were lucky it was closer to 5 hours with many hours requiring a change at Crewe or a lengthy trundle via Birmingham.
The headline times promised for the West Coast modernisation were never achieved because of Network rails inability to deliver on 140 mph running and Virgins policy of using London to Scotland Expresses to provide Inter Lancashire shopping specials on most hours.
If the Hs2 website is to be believed London to Glasgow will drop to 3 hrs 40 mins if delivered in my opinion that will kill the Glasgow sleeper market.
There was one that if not exactly 4 hrs from EUS to gLc was very close,. Think it left eus at 1630 and only stopped at Preston (crew change).
Used it a few times but can't remember how long it ran before being removed. This would have been post pendolino, can't remember the years though.
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