OuterDistant
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The buses get replaced by rickshaws?
Given the amount of works on the railways over the last 7-8 years we are well versed in running Railway replacement buses.What happens if one or more bus drivers test positive??
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Crazy response if you ask me! Talk about cutting off their noses to spite their faces. The covid response Down Under gets stranger by the day!The anti vax crazies have managed to get the construction industry shut down for two weeks after trying to start a riot out the front of the Construction Forestry Energy and Mining Union (CFMEU)
Construction industry shut down for two weeks following violent Melbourne protests
Violent protests in Melbourne's CBD have triggered a complete shutdown of all construction work in the city.www.abc.net.au
Basically the government made it mandatory for construction to get at least one jab and the CFMEU agreed to that. A few members were not happy at that and went to HQ. During the day the anti vax lot showed up(The same lot that caused trouble on Saturday protesting in Richmond) and started trouble.Crazy response if you ask me! Talk about cutting off their noses to spite their faces. The covid response Down Under gets stranger by the day!
So the government wants to teach them a lesson by shutting the entire industry down? Yep, that's crazy! Good job its not the health sector workers involved....Basically the government made it mandatory for construction to get at least one jab and the CFMEU agreed to that. A few members were not happy at that and went to HQ. During the day the anti vax lot showed up(The same lot that caused trouble on Saturday protesting in Richmond) and started trouble.
I suspect the crazies wanted the industry to shut down. It employs 300,000 people who are now very angry at the government.
the crazies
The story is more complicated than that. Cases have been going up in the construction industry for a couple of weeks. The government did a bit of investigating and found the was about 30 percent compliance with the rules and found a lot of the spread was happening in tea rooms.So the government wants to teach them a lesson by shutting the entire industry down? Yep, that's crazy! Good job its not the health sector workers involved....
And frankly I don't blame them for being unhappy. Firstly why the heck do construction workers need vaccines if they choose not to have them, and secondly Australia is so far behind with their vaccination programme that some might nit even have had a chance yet. Either way the anti-vaxxers in the equation are just an excuse, the local government don't need to shut down construction, but they are addicted to lockdowns. In the end they are only hurting both the workers and the industry to be seen to be doing something. They really need t grow up.The story is more complicated than that. Cases have been going up in the construction industry for a couple of weeks. The government did a bit of investigating and found the was about 30 percent compliance with the rules and found a lot of the spread was happening in tea rooms.
So the government made it mandatory for construction workers to have at least one dose and closed the tea rooms.
The union while not likeing the idea of mandatory vax agreed to keep construction open.
Last Friday the construction workers protested the closure of the tea rooms by taking thier tables and chairs outside and having it on the road.
Monday some construction workers protested out the front of the CFMEU building unhappy about the mandatory vax. During the day the anti vax crowd joined in and damaged the building.
Last night the government shut down construction as a result.
Today we had more riots with anti vaxers cosplaying as construction workers.
Police label protesters 'cowards' as 62 arrested after crowd storms through Melbourne's CBD
More than 500 police will remain in Melbourne's CBD on high alert today after thousands of protesters, many voicing anti-vaccination views, stopped traffic on the West Gate Bridge, as well as injuring three police officers and a journalist.www.abc.net.au
And frankly I don't blame them for being unhappy. Firstly why the heck do construction workers need vaccines if they choose not to have them, and secondly Australia is so far behind with their vaccination programme that some might nit even have had a chance yet. Either way the anti-vaxxers in the equation are just an excuse, the local government don't need to shut down construction, but they are addicted to lockdowns. In the end they are only hurting both the workers and the industry to be seen to be doing something. They really need t grow up.
It should be. We are seeing in NSW the case numbers are dropping. Even in Victoria they're not rising as much.I’m inclined to agree, as an outsider looking in these appear to be the actions of an authoritarian government. It will be interesting to see the reaction in Australia (and New Zealand) when it becomes apparent that the vaccines don’t completely prevent people contracting, transmitting or becoming ill with the virus. From speaking to a contact on another forum who’s based in New Zealand, the belief seems to be that once everybody is vaccinated it will be over, but as I keep saying that’s not necessarily the case (although it could be if the political will was there). What’s the general feeling in Australia @Pakenhamtrain? Do you think the vaccines will be enough?
It should be. We are seeing in NSW the case numbers are dropping. Even in Victoria they're not rising as much.
Both are still in lockdown. Both have plans to open up at various vax stages.Thanks, that’s good news. What are restrictions like in these areas?
Both are still in lockdown. Both have plans to open up at various vax stages.
We have the medical groups wanting the lockdowns to continue until 90 percent.It will be interesting to see how that goes. As you'll no doubt be aware, we have 90% vaccinated yet we still have a vocal minority calling for another lockdown....
We have the medical groups wanting the lockdowns to continue until 90 percent.
How is the shutdown interacting with the need for some construction work following today's earthquake?The story is more complicated than that. Cases have been going up in the construction industry for a couple of weeks. The government did a bit of investigating and found the was about 30 percent compliance with the rules and found a lot of the spread was happening in tea rooms.
So the government made it mandatory for construction workers to have at least one dose and closed the tea rooms.
The union while not likeing the idea of mandatory vax agreed to keep construction open.
Last Friday the construction workers protested the closure of the tea rooms by taking thier tables and chairs outside and having it on the road.
Monday some construction workers protested out the front of the CFMEU building unhappy about the mandatory vax. During the day the anti vax crowd joined in and damaged the building.
Last night the government shut down construction as a result.
Today we had more riots with anti vaxers cosplaying as construction workers.
Police label protesters 'cowards' as 62 arrested after crowd storms through Melbourne's CBD
More than 500 police will remain in Melbourne's CBD on high alert today after thousands of protesters, many voicing anti-vaccination views, stopped traffic on the West Gate Bridge, as well as injuring three police officers and a journalist.www.abc.net.au
Nutters.We have the medical groups wanting the lockdowns to continue until 90 percent.
The scenes coming out of Melbourne are something else - horrifying. Places I remember well. This whole covid crisis and the government response has made me understand how civil wars happen.
Australia isn't a normal place nor has it ever been. It was set up not just by convicts, but also their jailers too.Someone on Twitter commented 'Does anybody else get the feeling Australia is being used as a test case to see how far a Western population can be pushed?'.
Obviously it's a bit tongue in cheek, but given their gradual loss of reality down there, you do wonder sometimes!
Someone on Twitter commented 'Does anybody else get the feeling Australia is being used as a test case to see how far a Western population can be pushed?'.
Obviously it's a bit tongue in cheek, but given their gradual loss of reality down there, you do wonder sometimes!
Although I never understood the logic behind preventing people from leaving, at least it was fairly short-lived here.
Not least that the politics of access to Australia under these rules are difficult - it would be very possible to leave for a fortnight and then be stranded abroad.Not that I agree with it but I think the logic is that most people who leave tend to come back after a short time. It's not so much the leaving they're worried about but the coming back.
Not that I agree with it but I think the logic is that most people who leave tend to come back after a short time. It's not so much the leaving they're worried about but the coming back.
Or could there be a possibility that not enough tests are being done?Interestingly, Australia has had 5% excess deaths in the first half of 2021, yet in that time there was only one COVID death.
One could say their harsh lockdown policies haven't done that nation's health much good... (although obviously more data is needed before you can say for sure)
Is the implication there that instead of 1 COVID death, they actually had thousands, but just didn't test any of them?Or could there be a possibility that not enough tests are being done?