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Avanti West Coast Cancellations
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HamworthyGoods
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Northern which is an OLR TOC is no better for cancellations.
The west side of Northern maybe, but the east side is pretty reliable in my experience given the ongoing IR problems.
True but disruption can vary widely across the system depending on what diversionary routes are available & wether the affected TOC has crew & stock able to utilise them .
Do the Euston / Wolves crew have route knowledge via Bolton or is it just Preston crews (I think)?
I am so unfortunate to live in Wigan and have family in Birmingham trying to use the train and can only rely on Avanti
Yeah only Preston crews and also some Manchester drivers sign via Bolton to Preston. That’s why loads got cancelled due to depots not signing the route
Once again the provinces are being short-changed: Today through to Monday there is engineering N of Carlisle, and besides not running north of Carlisle (obviously) Avanti have used it as an excuse to pull all of the Birmingham - Preston or Scotland trains and even the Blackpools.
Just 1 of the Class 9s runs to Blackpool - but it starts at Crewe!
Just 1 of the Class 9s runs to Blackpool - but it starts at Crewe!
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Dr Hoo
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There is other work, between Stafford/Norton Bridge and Crewe, with diversions via the Kidsgrove-Crewe link, which is partly single track. Severely limited capacity.
That isn't mentioned on the NR Avanti page... I noticed the Crewe - Stafford via Stoke locals were running so didn't guess there was work S of Crewe as well! Now I look again, I see the Liverpool Birmingham trains aren't running S of Crewe either. What a pity they singled the line to Alsager...
And a real oddity: https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:76114/2024-05-25/detailed ecs Crewe CS to Northampton which comes back ECS to Crewe CS to (eventually) form a Holyhead train. What a waste of "Severely limited capacity."
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That looks like a class 805 on test, and unrelated to the Holyhead later on. (It has a class 3 headcode whereas ‘regular’ ECS moves for positioning stock are usually (though I’m sure there are exceptions!) class 5.)
but its amazing that it happens today when paths via Alsager are at a premium.
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Probably pathed quite a few days in advance
Lg_
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At least they're running some trains up to the block at Oxenholme instead of spinning everything at Preston.
The Blackpool's I think they just don't have any interest in running anymore.
paul1609
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Surely the Blackpool service is just a political whim. Nobody from London is going to visit Blackpool as a tourist resort and if they do its to make a You Tube video about what a slum it is. The fact that National Express serves both locations but doesnt offer 1 through coach tells all you need to know about the likely market.
It's not just about London though. Those trains (which should really be providing the hourly W Midlands through service to Scotland - and one used to be a Bristol starter) pick up all the way and are usually very busy. Without them pax for Glasgow from quite big places have no option but to change multiple times as on a normal day the fast Euston Glasgows don't call at Crewe!
The west mids blackpools are purely an easy way to get a set out of the way for an hour and 20 mins at Preston. As said above, these used to go through to Scotland and originally the long term plan was to restore these through to Glasgow but that’s never happened so continue to go to Blackpool.
Only the early morning 1R departure from Blackpool and the 1705 1P departure from Euston which should make a return when the hitachis are in service, I think they are back in the timetable from the 3rd week in June, were the only long term Blackpool services.
Only the early morning 1R departure from Blackpool and the 1705 1P departure from Euston which should make a return when the hitachis are in service, I think they are back in the timetable from the 3rd week in June, were the only long term Blackpool services.
Vectron383
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I'm travelling with Avanti on the 1640 from EUS to EDB in a few weeks- should I be particularly worried?
dk1
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What’s the point of worrying? Anything could happen with anything on the day and that goes for any form of transport. Only time I’d be concerned was if it was a strike day.
I think it is worth checking if a specific train is particularly vulnerable, so
https://www.recenttraintimes.co.uk/...xSvAg=10&MnScCt=2&DaySum=DaySum&ArrGph=ArrGph is worth looking at: 2 cancellations and 2 bad delays in the last month, so I would go for it - as long as I didn't have a difficult next stage!
Get the 16:30 if your train is cancelled, it’s loads faster and you can go via Glasgow or change for Edinburgh if it is.
the trouble is that if the xx.40 that you are on is cancelled when it gets to Preston, the xx30 from Euston an hour later has already left Preston 1/4 of an hour before you got there. (Not for this particular train, though: it's the last one of the day between 2 capital cities, so I reckon has got a better chance of running than most.)
Vectron383
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Thanks for the input everyone, all very useful points.
Oh dear! I was supposed to be travelling to Edinburgh today... expecting to use a RRB to travel through the blockage N of Oxenholme
Now we have a signalling failure S of M Keynes, and while they have managed ot run 1 train nbound from Northampton, the rest seem to have been abandoned: I would have thought that enough trains would be arriving from the N to run some sort of service back and on to Preston. Looks like I am stuffed!
Now we have a signalling failure S of M Keynes, and while they have managed ot run 1 train nbound from Northampton, the rest seem to have been abandoned: I would have thought that enough trains would be arriving from the N to run some sort of service back and on to Preston. Looks like I am stuffed!
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dk1
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Better news than expected a couple of hours ago.