But if it's on the internet it must be true... Thanks for the correction!That's inaccurate, according to Volvo they're 10ft 8 or 3.28M. So theoretically they can get under the bridge at Linlithgow.
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overthewater
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No sign of anything returning to Linlithgow. This is just odd.
As pointed out X17 is coming back but will now only operate between Loganlea and broxburn worse still running via Uphall Station, which seem to be way over bus now. I don't have much faith the 275 as its still NOT gone back to to gyle, if it doesn't go back I can see it getting killed off.
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As pointed out X17 is coming back but will now only operate between Loganlea and broxburn worse still running via Uphall Station, which seem to be way over bus now. I don't have much faith the 275 as its still NOT gone back to to gyle, if it doesn't go back I can see it getting killed off.
Service Change - 2 August 2020 - Lothian Buses
From Sunday 2 August Lothian will introduce changes to routes and timetables for Lothian Buses, East Coast Buses, Lothian Country to help keep Edinburgh and the Lothians moving as the country continues to move through the Scottish Government’s routemap to recovery. For the last four months...
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No sign of anything returning to Linlithgow. This is just odd.
As pointed out X17 is coming back but will now only operate between Loganlea and broxburn worse still running via Uphall Station, which seem to be way over bus now. I don't have much faith the 275 as its still NOT gone back to to gyle, if it doesn't go back I can see it getting killed off.
Service Change - 2 August 2020 - Lothian Buses
From Sunday 2 August Lothian will introduce changes to routes and timetables for Lothian Buses, East Coast Buses, Lothian Country to help keep Edinburgh and the Lothians moving as the country continues to move through the Scottish Government’s routemap to recovery. For the last four months...
All doom and gloom, normality is still a long way off.
Bluebirdscot66
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That was my thought ,The bridge at Linlithgow canal ,could they put those 7900s to use on x38 . Thanks for the answer .
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That's inaccurate, according to Volvo they're 10ft 8 or 3.28M. So theoretically they can get under the bridge at Linlithgow.
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No sign of anything returning to Linlithgow. This is just odd.
As pointed out X17 is coming back but will now only operate between Loganlea and broxburn worse still running via Uphall Station, which seem to be way over bus now. I don't have much faith the 275 as its still NOT gone back to to gyle, if it doesn't go back I can see it getting killed off.
Service Change - 2 August 2020 - Lothian Buses
From Sunday 2 August Lothian will introduce changes to routes and timetables for Lothian Buses, East Coast Buses, Lothian Country to help keep Edinburgh and the Lothians moving as the country continues to move through the Scottish Government’s routemap to recovery. For the last four months...
seems abit pointless not having the 275 going to the Gyle or the X17 cutting back to Broxburn,im even surprised they didn’t think to bring the X38 back..
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Hello, Im new here so you wont have seen any posts of mine anywhere on this site.
Is lothian country acquiring some Volvo 7900H from Lothian buses ive seen a lot of chat on here about it, Thanks.
Is lothian country acquiring some Volvo 7900H from Lothian buses ive seen a lot of chat on here about it, Thanks.
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First are making changes on 10th August look on the forthcoming section on its website, Big change is X25 going back to Edinburgh so it every 15mins from Broxburn to Edinburgh.
OmniCity999
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No, enthusiats just get excited with "what ifs".
Presuming the single deck routes (notwithstanding the 28 buses + spares needed for the 30/38) remain as double deck so long as social distancing is in force where could they be displaced internally within the main company?
I can see why some enthusiasts would think they could replace the LCB or ECB B7RLEs as it would seem logical, but who knows what the future holds?
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Ok thanks
Enthusiastic enthusiasts making predictions? Here? Neeeeeever! 
Well given that @OmniCity999 is very much in the know and has a track record of being proven so, I recall a previous comment where he mentioned they like to keep types together wherever possible, so my gut says the 7900Hs would stay in the city fleet, especially as they've just been through refurb / repaint.
I also remember another comment where under the end result of Bus2020 all singles would be Euro 6.
So my guess would be City fleet could end up as just 7900H and B8RLE, with the 79s freed by the new arrivals being cascaded round City routes to oust the B7RLEs.
The newest E5 surplus B7RLE then go to LCB/ECB to replace the older B7RLEs (ex Arriva and the 04s surviving there) with the next newest renewing the training fleet and the rest going for disposal.
The retained B7RLEs can be E6'd as per the 13 plates that moved to LCB already.
At least, that's what I think the thinking would be pre COVID. Wouldn't be shocked if that's thrown a giant disease ridden spanner in the works.
/End rampant speculation based on loose maths and crystal ball powers developed during lockdown!
Well given that @OmniCity999 is very much in the know and has a track record of being proven so, I recall a previous comment where he mentioned they like to keep types together wherever possible, so my gut says the 7900Hs would stay in the city fleet, especially as they've just been through refurb / repaint.
I also remember another comment where under the end result of Bus2020 all singles would be Euro 6.
So my guess would be City fleet could end up as just 7900H and B8RLE, with the 79s freed by the new arrivals being cascaded round City routes to oust the B7RLEs.
The newest E5 surplus B7RLE then go to LCB/ECB to replace the older B7RLEs (ex Arriva and the 04s surviving there) with the next newest renewing the training fleet and the rest going for disposal.
The retained B7RLEs can be E6'd as per the 13 plates that moved to LCB already.
At least, that's what I think the thinking would be pre COVID. Wouldn't be shocked if that's thrown a giant disease ridden spanner in the works.
/End rampant speculation based on loose maths and crystal ball powers developed during lockdown!
OmniCity999
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As far as I'm aware, single deck hybrids are to be kept on stop start work, that is to say, city work. As thats were their hybrid qualities are best utilised.Enthusiastic enthusiasts making predictions? Here? Neeeeeever!
Well given that @OmniCity999 is very much in the know and has a track record of being proven so, I recall a previous comment where he mentioned they like to keep types together wherever possible, so my gut says the 7900Hs would stay in the city fleet, especially as they've just been through refurb / repaint.
I also remember another comment where under the end result of Bus2020 all singles would be Euro 6.
So my guess would be City fleet could end up as just 7900H and B8RLE, with the 79s freed by the new arrivals being cascaded round City routes to oust the B7RLEs.
The newest E5 surplus B7RLE then go to LCB/ECB to replace the older B7RLEs (ex Arriva and the 04s surviving there) with the next newest renewing the training fleet and the rest going for disposal.
The retained B7RLEs can be E6'd as per the 13 plates that moved to LCB already.
At least, that's what I think the thinking would be pre COVID. Wouldn't be shocked if that's thrown a giant disease ridden spanner in the works.
/End rampant speculation based on loose maths and crystal ball powers developed during lockdown!
Sticking a hybrid on the long runs isn't a good choice, i know LC have the decker hybrids, but there's an exception in that skylink was decreasing in size for a brief time and its better to do 1 repaint instead of 2. That's the main reason they got the hybrids, another being, the Airlink buses that replaced the hybrids had full luggage racking. This wouldn't be beneficial at Lothian Country.
Hybrids are better suited to city work, where the need for Euro6 EEV's is higher.
Jordan Adam
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Enthusiastic enthusiasts making predictions? Here? Neeeeeever!
Well given that @OmniCity999 is very much in the know and has a track record of being proven so, I recall a previous comment where he mentioned they like to keep types together wherever possible, so my gut says the 7900Hs would stay in the city fleet, especially as they've just been through refurb / repaint.
I also remember another comment where under the end result of Bus2020 all singles would be Euro 6.
So my guess would be City fleet could end up as just 7900H and B8RLE, with the 79s freed by the new arrivals being cascaded round City routes to oust the B7RLEs.
The newest E5 surplus B7RLE then go to LCB/ECB to replace the older B7RLEs (ex Arriva and the 04s surviving there) with the next newest renewing the training fleet and the rest going for disposal.
The retained B7RLEs can be E6'd as per the 13 plates that moved to LCB already.
At least, that's what I think the thinking would be pre COVID. Wouldn't be shocked if that's thrown a giant disease ridden spanner in the works.
/End rampant speculation based on loose maths and crystal ball powers developed during lockdown!
I don't think it's too much of a reach to anticipate that the plans for getting all the fleet to Euro 6 have been pushed back slightly.
I'd agree, but putting the "Hybrid vs Diesel" stuff aside the B5LHs (7900H included) work far better on fast rural routes than they do on start stop work. I'm glad Lothian are not putting the 7900Hs on rural work however as their interior specification really isn't suitable, moving the B5LHs to LC i thought was a really smart move.
I agree 100%, but the new singles were ordered prior to COVID so any cascade / replace / retire decisions around their arrival would have been made then, I was merely taking a stab in the dark as to what they might have been.
Whether they will change much, that's as much a guess as my original one.
Picking up my cup of coolaid again (maybe it's ad blue?) I'd say if I wasn't far off the money, the only thing is see COVID delaying would be the haste at which you'd need to do any refurbing, repainting, and E6 upgrading of any B7RLE cascades, so you'd take your time on that to minimise costs
Graham Alexand
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What are the new buses that are getting ordered.
Jordan Adam
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Not for Lothian Country, but Lothian Buses are getting single deckers for the 30.
Graham Alexand
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Ok, do you know the model of the buses thanks
Baileygirl
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The changes are the 3rd of august
Jordan Adam
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Volvo B8RLE with ADL bodywork. A yet to be launched product.
Graham Alexand
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Thank you Jordan
DC21
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X22 service to Shotts- What are the loadings like in the Shotts area and what type of buses are used on this service? tried looking for pics but found nothing except a streetlite on the old 701 route to shotts
overthewater
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That what the route still has streetlites.
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Is there a date yet for when first take over service 63 and 20 or is it still to be finalised?
Jordan Adam
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Not date officially but probably at the end of this month.
Graham Alexand
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I think most routes in West Lothian are operated by Streetiltes or Volvo B7RLES for the exception of service 600 that is operated by Enviro400MMC's.
But the now since Lockdown X24 has been using Vovo Wright Eclipse Gemini 1 Volvo B9TL's and Enviro400MMC's.
I think the X22 has been using some Enviro400MMC's for the moment.
Service 600 has been using some streetlites lately.
Jordan Adam
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The 600 has been on a reduced timetable so the E400MMCs have been allocated elsewhere for the time being, i believe the B9TLs are just on loan from Glasgow?
Graham Alexand
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Yes i believe so, i think there is only 2 B9TL's that are in service here them being SN57 JAU AND SN57 JBE.
Do you know why all of first west lothian's B7TL's and B9TL's were sent away to Glasgow or Bristol?
Jordan Adam
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With services being increased there wasn't the need for as many deckers so at an operational perspective it made more sense to use single deckers and send the deckers to other areas where the capacity could be better utilised.
Graham Alexand
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Yes i believe so, i think there is only 2 of them being SN57 JAU AND SN57 JBE.
Do you know why all of first west lothian's B7TL's and B9TL's were sent away to Glasgow or Bristol
Ok, Thanks.
Graham Alexand
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Anyone know what's going to happen to Lothian Country 1029 (LXZ 5414) and does anyone know what depot it is in.
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